2ndCareer (2019-2020)

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Application Information

F - Fee Waiver A - Attending W - Withdrawn D - Deferred
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# Law School Status Type $$$ Sent Received Complete Interview Date Decision Updated
#3 Penn State University (Dickinson) Accepted A Type: RA $157,578 Sent: 11/27/19 Rec: 11/27/19 Comp: 11/28/19 Inter: -- Dec: 12/18/19 Upd: 1 year
#1 Wake Forest University Pending W Type: Sent: 11/22/19 Rec: 11/22/19 Comp: 11/25/19 Inter: -- Dec: -- Upd: 1 year
#2 University of Iowa Pending W Type: RA Sent: 11/22/19 Rec: 11/22/19 Comp: 11/25/19 Inter: -- Dec: -- Upd: 1 year
#2 University of Arizona F Waitlisted W Type: RA Sent: 12/08/19 Rec: 12/09/19 Comp: 12/11/19 Inter: -- Dec: -- Upd: 1 year
#1 Washington and Lee University F Waitlisted W Type: RA Sent: 01/26/20 Rec: -- Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: 02/20/20 Upd: 1 year
#3 Temple University Accepted W Type: RA $52,500 Sent: 12/01/19 Rec: 12/01/19 Comp: 12/02/19 Inter: -- Dec: 01/06/20 Upd: 1 year
#3 University of Richmond F Waitlisted W Type: RA Sent: 01/26/20 Rec: -- Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: 02/25/20 Upd: 1 year
#5 Arizona State University F Accepted W Type: ED $80,000 Sent: 11/22/19 Rec: 11/22/19 Comp: 11/25/19 Inter: -- Dec: 12/17/19 Upd: 1 year
#5 University of Nebraska Lincoln F Accepted W Type: $82,000 Sent: 11/22/19 Rec: 11/22/19 Comp: 11/25/19 Inter: -- Dec: 12/06/19 Upd: 1 year
#5 University of Montana F Rejected Type: Sent: 11/22/19 Rec: 11/22/19 Comp: 11/22/19 Inter: -- Dec: 12/19/19 Upd: 2 years

Applicant Information

  • LSAT: 165
  • LSAT 2: -
  • LSAT 3: -
  • GRE : -
  • LSAC GPA: 2.88
  • Degree GPA: 3.03
  • School Type: Medium Public
  • Major: Criminal Justice

Demographic Information

  • City: Missoula
  • State: Montana
  • Race: Non Minority
  • Gender: Man
  • Non-Traditional Applicant: Yes
  • Years out of Undergrad: 10+ Years

Extra Curricular Information

Founded a Supreme Court news podcast 2 years ago, that has 1,200+ listeners as of the time of application.

I may attempt to use this as a trade for better scholarships. (eg. University can put their name on it/keep it after I graduate).

Tune in: Supreme Court decision syllabus on any podcast source.

Its fun to do, and I thought it would show a connection to the legal field - I otherwise dont have many resume bullets that have anything law related.

18 Masters level credits in Criminal Justice at 3.4 GPA, spread over 5 years, all while working at least a 55 hour week.

Additional info & updates

Planning to go to the best school that gives me a full ride. All these schools give a lot of full rides except Montana, but MT is my current home.

Yes, I realize most of these are reach schools for a full ride, but ya gotta at least try.

15 Year career as an over-size truck driver, reached the top of that industry (participated in some record breaking moves).

Penn State is regular Penn, not Dickinson.

Putting this out here so folks can see an early-ish application with great softs and a really old crap UGPA (18 years old).

Maybe give someone some hope that softs count, we shall see.

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Nebraska
Sunday, December 01 2019 at 10:25 PM

Nebraska Called me to make offer with scholarship offer at the same time, told this would leave me paying $10k a year. Nebraska really is a hidden gem, some of you folks should take a look at, i think they are so low on the rankings simply because no one wants to move to Nebraska, they have some great teachers.

Penn State (State College)
Sunday, December 01 2019 at 10:25 PM

Accepted and given scholarship info via email $135k leaves about $5k per year tuition. I hope to be able to negotiate up to a full ride. Not sure how to do that except wait for a few more offers to come in and then email a request to be reconsidered in light of other scholarship offers.

Montana
Sunday, December 01 2019 at 10:25 PM

Rejected by my own home state. Thats gotta be yield protection - to be rejected by the #117 school and accepted with almost a full ride from the #61 within 24 hours. Im betting they just didnt have enough scholarship money to reasonably believe I would take any offer they gave.

Temple
Sunday, December 01 2019 at 10:25 PM

Accepted via email /w scholarship of less than half tuition Will negotiate.

Sunday, December 01 2019 at 10:25 PM

Penn State Dickinson offered a full scholarship and "Dean's Fellowship" (extra $5K in 1L year) via email. I sent this over to Penn State @ State college to see if they would up me from $5k a year to full tuition. Will try to negotiate up to a Full tuition + fees and books at Dickinson, 44% of their class is on a "more than full tuition" scholarship. I withdrew my app at Nebraska after this offer, hopefully someone else can get that scholarship money.

Penn State @ State College
Sunday, December 01 2019 at 10:25 PM

Had a pleasant mostly non business "negotiation" with Penn State @ State College and they upped me to full tuition. So now i have full tuition at both Dickinson, and State College.

AZ State
Sunday, December 01 2019 at 10:25 PM

Tried to renegotiate scholarships with ASU (They have a web form you fill out). I could not get an increase, so i withdrew. Their offer was $80k if accepted by march 1st. I expected this outcome, but it was completely free to apply (No LSAC fee, no School fee), so why not.

Added
Wednesday, January 08 2020 at 03:01 PM

I see you added a few schools! I was WL at Richmond and Reject at W&L, you should get it!

Negotiating
Thursday, January 23 2020 at 06:39 PM

How are you approaching negotiating for scholarships? Have you used any methods that were more effective than others?

Waitlisting
Sunday, December 01 2019 at 10:25 PM

On Waitlist at U AZ and Washington and Lee. I was clear with both these schools that it had to be either full tuition or very close for me to even consider it, so i suspect that has something to do with being waitlisted. Bonus of already having a full tuition scholarship in my pocket is im happy playing take it or leave it with anyone else. Penn State is a great school.

To attend Penn State at University Park
Sunday, December 01 2019 at 10:25 PM

Great School, great offer. Hoping to beat the rush and find good quiet housing somewhere near-ish to campus.

Thanks for suggesting UVA!
Monday, October 14 2019 at 12:45 PM

I'd like to extend a sincere thank you for suggesting I apply to UVA. I was waitlisted today and it is my first T14 non-rejection. Going to ride it out! :)