Testing_holism (2016-2017)

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Application Information

F - Fee Waiver, A - Attending, W - Withdrawn, D - Deferred
# Law School Status Type $$$ Sent Received Complete Decision Updated
Georgetown University F graph WL, Rejected 01/16/17 01/17/17 01/26/17 03/10/17 3 years
University of California Davis F graph WL, Accepted W $52,500 01/09/17 01/10/17 01/23/17 03/03/17 3 years
Vanderbilt University F graph Rejected 01/19/17 01/20/17 01/24/17 05/04/17 3 years
2 University of Michigan Ann Arbor F graph Rejected 01/16/17 01/17/17 02/23/17 05/01/17 3 years
University of Chicago F graph Rejected 01/12/17 01/13/17 02/06/17 04/21/17 3 years
2 Columbia University F graph Rejected 01/11/17 01/12/17 03/21/17 04/19/17 3 years
1 Stanford University F graph Rejected 01/16/17 01/17/17 01/20/17 04/03/17 3 years
2 University of Virginia F graph Rejected 01/13/17 01/14/17 01/17/17 04/03/17 3 years
University of Pennsylvania F graph Rejected 01/20/17 01/21/17 02/02/17 03/29/17 3 years
University of Southern California F graph Rejected 01/13/17 01/14/17 01/27/17 03/28/17 3 years
Cornell University F graph Rejected 01/16/17 01/17/17 -- 02/06/17 3 years
University of Texas Austin F graph Rejected 01/20/17 01/21/17 -- 03/15/17 3 years
Northwestern University F graph Rejected 01/15/17 01/16/17 01/31/17 03/14/17 3 years
1 University of California Berkeley F graph Rejected 01/09/17 01/10/17 01/11/17 03/13/17 3 years
Washington University in St Louis F graph Rejected 01/19/17 01/20/17 01/26/17 03/13/17 3 years
Boston University F graph Rejected 01/20/17 01/21/17 02/01/17 03/09/17 3 years
Duke University F graph Rejected 01/12/17 01/13/17 01/24/17 03/01/17 3 years
2 Harvard University F graph Rejected 01/16/17 01/16/17 01/23/17 02/27/17 3 years
2 New York University F graph Rejected 01/01/17 01/03/17 01/09/17 02/16/17 3 years

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Extra Curricular Information

My LSDAS GPA is deceptive. Since re-entry to college, I have been a 4.0 student all four years (139 units). Without my failed classes from over 10 years ago, my cumulative GPA is 4.02 by LSAC standards.

I have strong softs, strong PS, & fantastic recommenders. The only shat part of my app is the lsat.

I wrote: why "x" law school for almost every school; an addendum showing I am a 4.02 student for 4 years straight; diversity statement submitted at just about every school; submitted the optional statements for every school that offered them; tailored PS for each school to a degree.

Overcame a life-changing accident, went back to college to reinvent myself = unique story.


- First person in the history of my CC to finish a 2 yr honors program, in one year.
- 4 A.A. degrees
- Extensive volunteer and community service.
- Caseworker at a legal clinic
- Internship at the SF D.A.'s office Writ and Appeals division
- Several honors societies.
- Conducting original research for senior thesis with law faculty.
- Owned and operated a business; worked in management, was a social worker for 6 yrs... tons of work experience in many different fields and capacities.


Here's to testing how holistic schools are; if there was ever a case that served to be a litmus test, I am it.

- 4/22: my advice if you have sub-par numbers, or represent an anomaly, you are well served by turning in your application no later than November, and if possible, turn it in even sooner.

- 3/10 emailed and was placed on the "preferred waitlist." I am just pleased they closely read my app; put a check next to Georgetown for being holistic.
- 4/27 sent a LOCI; perhaps I can wiggle off the 'preferred waitlist.'
- 5/16 another LOCI with significant update and submitted spring semester grades.
- 6/30 received email rejecting me from the preferred waitlist.

2/10 - notified under faculty review
2/16 - status checker says "decision letter sent"... only 6 days of review probably = reject.
2/16 - email rejection

- 1/16 faculty review
- 3/15 for some reason they keep holding onto me while accepting and rejecting people before and after when I turned in my application...
- 3/22 review status date changed.
- 4/3 rejected via email.

- Stanford faculty review 1/27
- Rejected via snail mail; you'll have an idea it is coming for the status checker will say "decision letter sent" at the top.

- 2/6 expedited rejection! They wasted no time sendin' me packing. Feels good to get the first rejection out of the way as I know there is more to come.

- 2/6 Notification via email under faculty review
- 3/13 rejected via status checker and received an email a few hours later.

- 2/7 under faculty review
- 3/27 under review 2
- 3/29 rejected via email.

UC Davis:
- 1/24 under faculty review
- 3/3 waitlisted via email
- 6/3 accepted via email; check next to UC Davis as holistic - I am well below their 25th % for LSAT.
- 6/9 had to decline their offer. While it was generous given my stats, there were a couple of things that made the decision such that it didn't make sense. .

- 2/23 faculty review via status check
- 5/1 rejection letter via snail mail.

- 2/20 under review
- 5/4 email rejection.

UTexas Austin:
- 3/15 rejected via email.

- 2/27 rejected via email.

- taking forever to even complete my application... still "incomplete" over a month after submitting it.
- 3/2 still incomplete....
- 3/23 finally processed.
- 4/17 rejected via snail mail; received the letter on 4/22.

- 2/20 faculty review
- 4/12 UR2
- 4/17 UR3
- 4/20 rejected via email.

- 2/20 under faculty review
- 3/14 rejected on status checker.

- 2/27 under faculty review
- reject via email

- 2/13 under faculty review
- file updated as under review again 2/27
- 3/1 rejected via email

- 1/27(ish) under faculty review.
- 3/13 rejected via email.

- 3/2 over a month and a half, and my file still hasn't been sent to review.
- 3/14... USC sat on my app for two full months, now I am finally in review.
- 3/26 reject via email.

Visitor Comments

  • reply to your comment
  • Thursday, April 21 2016 at 07:02 PM

I have no idea how to reply to your comment on my profile so I'm just going to type it out here haha. Thank you! Yes, it's such a relief. I really think my GPA plus personal statement helped. I spent at least 3 months writing it. Also, if you have a low LSAT score, make sure to write an addendum to your application explaining how LSAT isn't a good measure of your intelligence (a one-day test) versus your GPA (a measure over several years).

- WakiPaki
  • Looking good!
  • Saturday, February 04 2017 at 06:40 PM

Thanks for your kind comment! I hope you have an amazing cycle. Your softs look really good and that's what helped me to get into the schools I did despite having a not so great LSAT score. It truly is a holistic process! Good luck!

- Kdavis95
  • Impressive
  • Thursday, March 16 2017 at 11:20 AM

Your EC's are very impressive and I hope one of your reaches gives you a well deserved shot. Good luck!

- themoonisthelimit
  • Thursday, March 16 2017 at 11:21 AM

That said, I wonder how are chances would have fared had we submitted applications earlier in the cycle..?

- themoonisthelimit
  • Saturday, March 25 2017 at 08:27 PM

Hi Moon, I would say one's chances are MUCH better than late in the cycle if you present statistical issues for the schools you are applying to. At this juncture, there are just about zero seats left and they have already accepted people with lower numbers

- Testing_holism
  • Still some left
  • Thursday, March 30 2017 at 02:05 AM

Still some hope here. As an aside, you should give serious consideration to reaching out to Spivey Consulting with your very interesting story here. You seemed to have proven something worthy of top industry analysis. Also, why not apply to some other schools? You will for certain get in, and probably with write a bit of money as well..

- CarnivorousKitten
  • Monday, April 03 2017 at 02:32 PM

I appreciate the advice. I can't afford consulting, and I don't know that the issue is a poorly designed application. I only applied to reach schools with a horrible and non-representative LSAT, some of this outcome was expected. It is a numbers game, plain and simple. As for other schools, I just don't personally believe the trade-off of going to a low ranked school is worth it in my situation. Lawyers are the number 1 unemployed profession in the United States.... Where you get your degree makes a big, big difference.

- Testing_holism
  • The Holism Test is Over
  • Monday, May 01 2017 at 03:36 PM

I hope my cycle gives those with lofty aspirations some good data to gauge how things might go with reach schools. It appears that at most schools I was probably never even read. The time between completed, and actually going to review was obscenely long. Conversely, my apps flew though "review" which likely means it was just a formality of checking a box saying they read my app and passing it off to the next reviewer. I would also say, yes, they will in fact hold very old grades against you - even 16 year old grades as was the case for me. Even if you perform academically at an extremely high level for four years after those blemishes, it will not override what I assume to be their main concern: statistics and rankings for US News and Review. In the end, if you are shooting for reach schools, don't expect much. Applying early is about the only thing you can do to perhaps change your odds. Know that it is a numbers game.

- Testing_holism
  • I wonder
  • Saturday, June 03 2017 at 01:19 PM

Since one of the things law schools look for is commitment to a law career, do you think your holism, particularly work and education (4 AA degrees) related could have worked against you and was seen as a negative? Wondering as I try to figure out how to write my apps.

- phdad
  • Saturday, June 03 2017 at 03:04 PM

I sent you a pm. Cheers.

- Testing_holism

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