Testing_holism (2016-2017)
Application Information
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| # | Law School | Status | Type | $$$ | Sent | Received | Complete | Interview Date | Decision | Updated | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Georgetown University F | WL, Rejected | Type: RA | Sent: 01/16/17 | Rec: 01/17/17 | Comp: 01/26/17 | Inter: -- | Dec: 03/10/17 | Upd: 7 years | |||
| University of California Davis F | WL, Accepted W | Type: RA | $52,500 | Sent: 01/09/17 | Rec: 01/10/17 | Comp: 01/23/17 | Inter: -- | Dec: 03/03/17 | Upd: 8 years | ||
| Vanderbilt University F | Rejected | Type: RA | Sent: 01/19/17 | Rec: 01/20/17 | Comp: 01/24/17 | Inter: -- | Dec: 05/04/17 | Upd: 8 years | |||
| #2 | University of Michigan Ann Arbor F | Rejected | Type: RA | Sent: 01/16/17 | Rec: 01/17/17 | Comp: 02/23/17 | Inter: -- | Dec: 05/01/17 | Upd: 8 years | ||
| University of Chicago F | Rejected | Type: RA | Sent: 01/12/17 | Rec: 01/13/17 | Comp: 02/06/17 | Inter: -- | Dec: 04/21/17 | Upd: 8 years | |||
| #2 | Columbia University F | Rejected | Type: RA | Sent: 01/11/17 | Rec: 01/12/17 | Comp: 03/21/17 | Inter: -- | Dec: 04/19/17 | Upd: 8 years | ||
| #1 | Stanford University F | Rejected | Type: RA | Sent: 01/16/17 | Rec: 01/17/17 | Comp: 01/20/17 | Inter: -- | Dec: 04/03/17 | Upd: 8 years | ||
| #2 | University of Virginia F | Rejected | Type: RA | Sent: 01/13/17 | Rec: 01/14/17 | Comp: 01/17/17 | Inter: -- | Dec: 04/03/17 | Upd: 8 years | ||
| University of Pennsylvania F | Rejected | Type: RA | Sent: 01/20/17 | Rec: 01/21/17 | Comp: 02/02/17 | Inter: -- | Dec: 03/29/17 | Upd: 8 years | |||
| University of Southern California F | Rejected | Type: RA | Sent: 01/13/17 | Rec: 01/14/17 | Comp: 01/27/17 | Inter: -- | Dec: 03/28/17 | Upd: 8 years | |||
| Cornell University F | Rejected | Type: RA | Sent: 01/16/17 | Rec: 01/17/17 | Comp: -- | Inter: -- | Dec: 02/06/17 | Upd: 8 years | |||
| University of Texas Austin F | Rejected | Type: RA | Sent: 01/20/17 | Rec: 01/21/17 | Comp: -- | Inter: -- | Dec: 03/15/17 | Upd: 8 years | |||
| Northwestern University F | Rejected | Type: RA | Sent: 01/15/17 | Rec: 01/16/17 | Comp: 01/31/17 | Inter: -- | Dec: 03/14/17 | Upd: 8 years | |||
| #1 | University of California Berkeley F | Rejected | Type: RA | Sent: 01/09/17 | Rec: 01/10/17 | Comp: 01/11/17 | Inter: -- | Dec: 03/13/17 | Upd: 8 years | ||
| Washington University in St Louis F | Rejected | Type: RA | Sent: 01/19/17 | Rec: 01/20/17 | Comp: 01/26/17 | Inter: -- | Dec: 03/13/17 | Upd: 8 years | |||
| Boston University F | Rejected | Type: RA | Sent: 01/20/17 | Rec: 01/21/17 | Comp: 02/01/17 | Inter: -- | Dec: 03/09/17 | Upd: 8 years | |||
| Duke University F | Rejected | Type: RA | Sent: 01/12/17 | Rec: 01/13/17 | Comp: 01/24/17 | Inter: -- | Dec: 03/01/17 | Upd: 8 years | |||
| #2 | Harvard University F | Rejected | Type: RA | Sent: 01/16/17 | Rec: 01/16/17 | Comp: 01/23/17 | Inter: -- | Dec: 02/27/17 | Upd: 8 years | ||
| #2 | New York University F | Rejected | Type: RA | Sent: 01/01/17 | Rec: 01/03/17 | Comp: 01/09/17 | Inter: -- | Dec: 02/16/17 | Upd: 8 years |
Visitor Comments
Thanks for your kind comment! I hope you have an amazing cycle. Your softs look really good and that's what helped me to get into the schools I did despite having a not so great LSAT score. It truly is a holistic process! Good luck!
Your EC's are very impressive and I hope one of your reaches gives you a well deserved shot. Good luck!
That said, I wonder how are chances would have fared had we submitted applications earlier in the cycle..?
Hi Moon, I would say one's chances are MUCH better than late in the cycle if you present statistical issues for the schools you are applying to. At this juncture, there are just about zero seats left and they have already accepted people with lower numbers
Still some hope here. As an aside, you should give serious consideration to reaching out to Spivey Consulting with your very interesting story here. You seemed to have proven something worthy of top industry analysis. Also, why not apply to some other schools? You will for certain get in, and probably with write a bit of money as well..
I appreciate the advice. I can't afford consulting, and I don't know that the issue is a poorly designed application. I only applied to reach schools with a horrible and non-representative LSAT, some of this outcome was expected. It is a numbers game, plain and simple. As for other schools, I just don't personally believe the trade-off of going to a low ranked school is worth it in my situation. Lawyers are the number 1 unemployed profession in the United States.... Where you get your degree makes a big, big difference.
I hope my cycle gives those with lofty aspirations some good data to gauge how things might go with reach schools. It appears that at most schools I was probably never even read. The time between completed, and actually going to review was obscenely long. Conversely, my apps flew though "review" which likely means it was just a formality of checking a box saying they read my app and passing it off to the next reviewer. I would also say, yes, they will in fact hold very old grades against you - even 16 year old grades as was the case for me. Even if you perform academically at an extremely high level for four years after those blemishes, it will not override what I assume to be their main concern: statistics and rankings for US News and Review. In the end, if you are shooting for reach schools, don't expect much. Applying early is about the only thing you can do to perhaps change your odds. Know that it is a numbers game.
Since one of the things law schools look for is commitment to a law career, do you think your holism, particularly work and education (4 AA degrees) related could have worked against you and was seen as a negative? Wondering as I try to figure out how to write my apps.
I sent you a pm. Cheers.
I have no idea how to reply to your comment on my profile so I'm just going to type it out here haha. Thank you! Yes, it's such a relief. I really think my GPA plus personal statement helped. I spent at least 3 months writing it. Also, if you have a low LSAT score, make sure to write an addendum to your application explaining how LSAT isn't a good measure of your intelligence (a one-day test) versus your GPA (a measure over several years).