aarwu2000 (2015-2016)

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F - Fee Waiver, A - Attending, W - Withdrawn, D - Deferred
# Law School Status Type $$$ Sent Received Complete Decision Updated
1 Indiana University Bloomington F graph Accepted D A $57,000 01/17/16 05/15/17 06/28/16 04/01/16 3 years
3 Chicago-Kent College of Law (IIT) F graph WL, Accepted W 01/05/16 -- -- 07/29/16 4 years
Florida International University graph Accepted W 01/06/16 -- -- 07/20/16 4 years
2 University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign graph WL, Accepted $60,000 01/21/16 -- -- 06/24/16 4 years
Villanova University F graph WL, Accepted W 02/23/16 -- -- 06/23/16 4 years
Pepperdine University F graph Rejected 02/12/16 -- -- 05/20/16 4 years
University of California Davis F graph Rejected 02/12/16 -- -- 05/23/16 4 years
American University F graph WL, Accepted W 02/13/16 -- -- 05/23/16 4 years
University of Maine graph Waitlisted 01/12/16 -- -- 05/20/16 4 years
Brooklyn Law School F graph Rejected 01/10/16 -- -- 05/18/16 4 years
DePaul University F graph WL, Accepted W $45,000 01/05/16 -- -- 04/20/16 4 years
University of Pittsburgh F graph Rejected 03/05/16 -- -- 05/17/16 4 years
CUNY Queens College F graph Accepted W 01/11/16 -- -- 05/10/16 4 years
Mercer University F graph WL, Accepted W 03/03/16 -- -- 04/21/16 4 years
University of California Irvine F graph Waitlisted 02/13/16 -- -- 05/07/16 4 years
Marquette University F PT graph Waitlisted 01/23/16 -- -- 05/02/16 4 years
University of California Hastings F graph Rejected 01/18/16 -- -- 04/21/16 5 years
University of San Francisco F graph Waitlisted 03/05/16 -- -- 04/19/16 5 years
Santa Clara University F graph Accepted 02/23/16 -- -- 04/18/16 5 years
Pace University F graph Waitlisted W 01/06/16 -- -- 04/18/16 5 years
Southern Methodist University F graph Waitlisted 02/12/16 -- -- 04/15/16 5 years
Florida State University F graph Rejected 01/16/16 -- -- 04/08/16 5 years
University of Tennessee Knoxville F graph Waitlisted 03/05/16 -- -- 04/14/16 5 years
Catholic University of America F graph Waitlisted 03/05/16 -- -- 04/14/16 5 years
Duquesne University F graph Rejected 02/29/16 -- -- 04/12/16 5 years
West Virginia University F graph Rejected 03/07/16 -- -- 04/06/16 5 years
Seton Hall University F graph Rejected 01/10/16 -- -- 03/17/16 5 years
Barry University School of Law F graph Accepted W $36,000 01/05/16 -- -- 01/29/16 5 years
William Mitchell College of Law F graph Accepted W $59,340 02/01/16 -- -- 03/08/16 5 years
Roger Williams University F graph Accepted W $20,275 01/05/16 -- -- 03/09/16 5 years
Suffolk University F graph Accepted W 02/11/16 -- -- 02/29/16 5 years
New England School of Law graph Accepted W $45,000 01/09/16 -- -- 01/22/16 5 years
Widener University F graph Accepted W $33,000 01/09/16 -- -- 03/10/16 5 years
John Marshall Law School - Chicago F graph Accepted W $60,000 01/10/16 -- -- 01/21/16 5 years
Golden Gate University F graph Accepted W $30,000 01/04/16 -- -- 01/21/16 5 years
Howard University F graph Accepted W 01/05/16 -- -- 02/11/16 5 years
New York Law School F graph Accepted W 01/11/16 -- -- 03/24/16 5 years
University of Akron F graph Accepted W $9,000 01/21/16 -- -- 03/02/16 5 years
Florida A&M University F graph Accepted W 01/22/16 -- -- 03/21/16 5 years
Florida Coastal School of Law F graph Accepted W $36,000 01/05/16 -- -- 01/11/16 5 years
Western New England College School of Law F graph Accepted W $57,000 01/05/16 -- -- 02/02/16 5 years
Ohio State University F graph Rejected 02/18/16 -- -- 04/08/16 5 years
University of North Carolina Chapel Hill F graph Rejected 02/18/16 -- -- 04/07/16 5 years
Washington University in St Louis F graph Rejected 02/12/16 -- -- 04/05/16 5 years
Case Western Reserve University F graph Waitlisted 01/21/16 -- -- 04/04/16 5 years
Albany Law School of Union University F graph Rejected 03/07/16 -- -- 04/04/16 5 years
Drake University F graph Waitlisted 01/18/16 -- -- 04/01/16 5 years
University of Tulsa F graph Waitlisted 01/27/16 -- -- 04/01/16 5 years
Valparaiso University F graph Rejected 01/19/16 -- -- 04/01/16 5 years
Baylor University F graph Rejected 10/12/15 -- -- 04/01/16 5 years
Penn State University (Dickinson) F graph Waitlisted 02/13/16 -- -- 03/31/16 5 years
Capital University F graph Accepted W $45,000 10/12/15 -- -- 01/11/16 5 years
College of William and Mary F graph Waitlisted 10/13/15 -- -- 03/30/16 5 years
Georgia State University F graph Rejected 03/07/16 -- -- 03/30/16 5 years
Charlotte School of Law F graph Accepted W $36,000 01/09/16 -- -- 01/14/16 5 years
Phoenix School of Law F graph Accepted W $36,000 10/12/15 -- -- 01/11/16 5 years
Appalachian School of Law F graph Accepted W $46,500 10/12/15 -- -- 01/11/16 5 years
Thomas M Cooley Law School F graph Accepted W $43,200 01/14/16 -- -- 01/20/16 5 years
University of Richmond F graph Rejected 03/08/16 -- -- 03/28/16 5 years
University of Colorado Boulder F graph Waitlisted 02/12/16 -- -- 03/25/16 5 years
Tulane University F graph Rejected 01/16/16 -- -- 03/24/16 5 years
University of Florida F graph Waitlisted 01/21/16 -- -- 03/24/16 5 years
Wake Forest University F graph Waitlisted 02/12/16 -- -- 03/21/16 5 years
Northeastern University F graph Waitlisted 01/18/16 -- -- 03/21/16 5 years
St. John's University F graph Waitlisted 01/17/16 -- -- 03/21/16 5 years
Western State University F graph Rejected 01/05/16 -- -- 03/15/16 5 years
Boston College F graph Rejected 01/22/16 -- -- 03/18/16 5 years
University of Georgia F graph Waitlisted 01/23/16 -- -- 03/17/16 5 years
Loyola University Chicago F graph Rejected 01/05/16 -- -- 03/11/16 5 years
Stetson University F graph Rejected 01/05/16 -- -- 03/11/16 5 years
University of Houston F graph Rejected 01/14/16 -- -- 03/03/16 5 years
University of Miami F graph Rejected 01/14/16 -- -- 03/08/16 5 years
Creighton University F graph WL, Rejected 01/20/16 -- -- 03/08/16 5 years
University of Missouri Columbia F graph Rejected 01/11/16 -- -- 03/07/16 5 years
Nova Southeastern University F graph Accepted W 01/05/16 -- -- 03/04/16 5 years
Emory University F graph Rejected 01/22/16 -- -- 03/03/16 5 years
University of Idaho F graph Waitlisted 01/13/16 -- -- 03/03/16 5 years
Michigan State College of Law F graph Waitlisted 01/13/16 -- -- 03/01/16 5 years
George Mason University F graph Rejected 01/14/16 -- -- 02/19/16 5 years
Hofstra University F PT graph Waitlisted 01/05/16 -- -- 02/11/16 5 years
University at Buffalo F graph Waitlisted 01/06/16 -- -- 02/05/16 5 years
Cardozo-Yeshiva University F graph Waitlisted 01/14/16 -- -- 02/02/16 5 years
Chapman University F PT graph Rejected 01/15/16 -- -- 01/29/16 5 years
Syracuse University PT graph Rejected 01/05/16 -- -- 01/28/16 5 years

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PSA: I have been through the struggle. I understand the stakes. From time to time I reach out to provide assistance. If you have any Q's with admissions or know someone that does please reach out in the DM or post on my page

**p.s. I passed the FL BAR !!!!!!!!! (with 10 extra scaled points + first attempt). LSAT is a weed out. don't give up**

#Believe #Success #Hardwork

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Truly #blessed. 2 Great books that got me to where I am today based on my stats were LSAT Necessary & LSAT Trainer.

Good Luck to every one this cycle. I hope you all get into your top law school choices!

#Believe----> Remember You are Built for Greatness. A strong mind starts with strong energy that comes from within by believing in yourself.

Note: I Define "Wait List" as "Soft Rejection" by thinking of it as a "NO, unless" statement. No your not coming to our school unless someone decides to drop and we noticed you haven't put up a deposit (i.e. committed to a school) so we are reaching out to you now as we could use your stats (UGPA/LSAT or Diversity Status) without hurting our class mean statistics too much.

Scroll to the bottom for some great 1L/2L/3L tips and How To GET OFF Waitlists :)

BTW: A Great Stress Reliever Book as you wait for your acceptance letters:

Adult Coloring Book: Law School Zombies. The Zombie illustrations are spot on with the emotions you will face during 1L. Dope.


Majority of schools have had their fees waived for this 2015-2016 cycle on LSAC. Others, I simply emailed the admissions committee, told them I took the December 2015 LSAT and wanted to apply. They all sent back a waiver code. If you don't ask, then you don't get! Since my LSAT score is weak I decided to swing for the fences and play the law of averages. More WL I can get on the greater chances of one of them scooping me up.

P.S.- scholarship funds are cumulative (3 years) and rankings below reflect 2017 stats (US & News)

***1/11/19 update: Ladies & Gents. Demand is slowly picking up (average 8-10% bump in apps). Schools are cutting law school sizes & increasing average LSAT means.....Do what you MUST to get in ASAP!! See my strategies below.

Google ABA Article, "Rather than increasing 1L class size in 2018 . . . " ***

1/11/16-Florida coastal phone call & email with acceptance. In addition to $$ they are throwing in a Mac Book Air lol.

1/11/16-Appalachian phone call with acceptance with packet in the mail. Who?

1/11/16- Phoenix (Arizona Summit) email with acceptance

1/14/16-Charlotte email with acceptance

1/19/16- Depaul (ranked #111) email with wait-list (soft rejection). I called to ask about how the wait list works and they said they hardly go into it as their seats are always full. Chances of getting in are slim to none.

1/21/16-John Marshall Chicago email with acceptance. I'm surprised not a phone call with the amount of $$ they offered.

1/21/16-Golden Gate email with acceptance

1/22/16- Chicago Kent (ranked #86) email with wait list (soft rejection). Was digging this school sucks.

1/22/16--New England phone call with acceptance

1/28/16--Syracuse email with rejection. First official rejection blows... : / .... Thought I had a chance for the PT program. I notice how rejection/ wait list notifications are sent via email. They don't want to spend the stamp, don't blame them.

1/29/16--Chapman University rejection email. [email protected]#k need 150+ on the LSAT to play ball with ranked schools...

1/29/16--Barry University acceptance email with $$ and phone call

2/2/16--Yeshiva University (ranked #74) Wait list email (soft rejection). Surprised it wasn't a full rejection like Syracuse (ranked #86).

2/2/16--Western New England University phone call with acceptance

2/5/16--University of Buffalo (ranked #100) Wait list email (soft rejection).

2/11/16--Howard Law acceptance email. First ranked school (ranked #106). No scholarship though :/.....

2/11/16- Hofstra (ranked #111) WL snail mail (soft rejection). I'm surprised they spent the postage for a WL. Let's see how things unfold by May 1 when everyone puts their seat deposits somewhere.

2/19/16-George Mason rejection email. Was a long shot.

2/29/16-Suffolk University acceptance email.

3/1/16--Michigan State (ranked #100) Wait List Email (soft rejection)

3/2/16--Accepted to U of Akron (ranked #136) via phone call with $3K a year guaranteed scholarship. Tuition cheap $24/year out of state.

3/3/16--U of Idaho (ranked #111) wait list email (soft rejection)

3/3/16--Penn State Rejection Email

3/3/16--Emory Rejection Email

3/3/16--U of Houston Rejection Snail Mail.

3/4/16--Nova Email Acceptance. Wait I just realized its conditional and they want you to pay $1500 to take a summer course and if you pass you get in. Yea OK. Just withdrew my app. NEXT.

3/7/16-Missouri Columbia rejection snail mail. What's bizarre is they solicited me based on my stats (i actually emailed stating if they saw my LSAT and GPA) then after 3 mo they rejected me. Look into US News Methodology. Schools get a boost in their ranking by keeping their acceptance ratio low. So, the hustle is to invite you to apply with the intention to reject. Be ware.

3/8/16-Email from Creighton Law (ranked #106) saying my app is on hold they can't decide to admit / deny/waitlist lol. They will make a decision mid April I guess when everyone sorts out where they are going.

3/8/16-U of Miami rejection email. Sucks right in my back yard.

3/8/16-Mitchell Hamline Law acceptance email (rank #140) with 50% tuition comped. Not bad.

3/9/16-Roger Williams Law Phone Call with 20% Tuition Comped.

3/9/16-Widener University Law phone call acceptance

3/10/16-Stetson Law rejection email

3/11/16-Loyola Chicago rejection email

3/15/16-Western State Law Argosy University Rejection Snail Mail

3/15/16--Mercer University School of Law (ranked #123) wait list (soft rejection) email. Crunch Time schools are getting more selective.

3/16/16--U of Georgia (rank #33) Wait List (soft rejection) letter via snail mail. Still can't believe I got WL into this school-i'm gassed. Highest ranked WL school i got put on.

3/17/16--Seton Hall rejection application status check.

3/18/16--Boston College rejection email. Gave me the Boot :/...

3/18/16--American University (rank#78) WL (soft rejection). On my list of top schools to attend. Good Opp to jump into the DC market.

3/21/16--FAMU acceptance via email.

3/21/16--St John University (ranked #74) WL (soft rejection) email.

3/21/16--Northeastern University (ranked #82) WL (soft rejection) email.

3/21/16--Wake Forest WL (soft rejection) email. I'm pretty gassed however (ranked #40). Second highest wait list i got put on to...This week is crunch time.

3/24/16--Tulane University rejection email.

3/24/16--U of Florida (ranked 48) WL email (soft rejection). My first pick! Best law school for value and brand name in Florida (arguably).

3/24/16--New York Law School Acceptance (ranked #111)

3/25/16--U of Colorado Boulder (rank #40) WL email (soft rejection). Great school would love to go if I can get in!

3/28/16--U of Richmond rejection snail mail.

3/30/16--Georgia State rejection email.

3/30/16-William & Marry (rank #33) WL email (soft rejection). not bad, not bad...

3/31/16--Penn State Dickinson (rank # 86) WL email (soft rejection).

4/1/16--Baylor Law rejection snail mail.

4/1/16--Valparaiso University rejection snail mail

4/1/16--Drake University (ranked #111) WL snail mail (soft rejection)

4/1/16--University of Tulsa (ranked #86) WL snail mail (soft rejection)

4/1/16---OMG! Indiana Maurer Acceptance (RANK #25) email with $$$---Game On! I went to visit they pay for your entire trip, air, hotel, rental car and require no deposit to hold a seat. Great Value!

4/4/16--Albany law rejection email

4/4/16--Case Western (rank #57) WL email (soft rejection)

4/5/16--Washington Univ St. Louis rejection email

4/6/16--West Virginia rejection snail mail

4/7/16--UNC Chapel Hill Rejection Email.

4/8/16--Ohio St Rejection Email

4/8/16--FSU Law Rejection Snail Mail

4/12/16--Duquesne University Rejection Email

4/12/16--U of Illinois (ranked #40) WL email (soft rejection). Not bad, not bad..

4/13/16--Villanova law (ranked #74)WL email (soft rejection)

4/14/16--Catholic University (rank #103) WL email (soft rejection)

4/14/16--U of Tennessee (rank #65) WL email (soft rejection)

**********4/15 MOST DEPOSITS DUE************

4/15/16--SMU Law (rank#45) WL email (soft rejection). First one after big deposits due deadline for most schools. Now it will get interesting to see what else comes in!

4/18/16--Pace Law (rank#136) WL email.

4/18/16--Santa Clara Law (rank#129) Acceptance email. WEST COAST in the house! Finally haven't received any communication from that side for a minute.

4/19/16--U of San Fran WL email. They were ranked last year but noticed they quickly dropped out the races to being unranked. Ouch.

4/20/16---DePaul University (rank#111) Acceptance. Got picked up off the WL and got offered $$. I did not send a LOCI. They put me on a WL 1/19/16. 45 racks a year though-pricey.

4/21/16--U of California (Hastings) rejection email

4/21/16--Mercer Law Acceptance (rank #123). Got picked up off WL on 3/15/16.

5/2/16--Marquette Law (ranked#123) WL email (soft rejection). A little late to the party lol.

5/7/16--U of California IRVINE (ranked #28) WL email (soft rejection). Would be sweet to go to this school on the west coast..

5/10/16--Cuny Law (Ranked 131) conditional acceptance into the "pipeline to justice program". I emailed them that I am withdrawing.

5/10/16--DePaul Law (ranking #111) just emailed me and bumped up their scholarship offer to $45K for 3 years (from $24K) with no LOCI or response by me. So, i emailed them seeing if they could beat IU offer and they said they dont match or beat completing schools bids. Too bad...

5/17/16--Pitt Law rejection email.

5/18/16--Brooklyn Law School Rejection Email

5/20/16--University of Maine (ranked#111) WL (soft rejection) email.

5/20/16--Pepperdine University rejection snail mail

5/23/16--University of California Davis rejection snail mail

5/23/16--American University (ranked #78) phone call acceptance off WL. I had to reject as they offered no $$. Couldn't beat IU deal. Sucks another great school.

6/23/16-got a call from Villanova Law (ranked #74) to get off their WL. I had to decline as there was no $$ money given. Great school though.

6/24/16--Email Acceptance of WL Illinois Law Champagne (ranked #40) with $60,000 scholarship. Oh boy got a contender.... : o......

7/20/16--FIU LAW Acceptance!! Phone call and email. Only $21 a year for in-state (total $63K for the JD). Whewww'....tough tough tough decisions......I actually took a visit yesterday and decided to pass. Great school just too young for me. Plus I want to get out of Miami.

7/29/2016-Chicago Kent ACCEPTED!!(ranked #86). I was WL in 1/22 too bad they took so long to get back to me...

8/11/2016-I chose I.U. Bloomington (ranked #25). Amazing school. I love this town. Its progressive, hip, like an oasis in the middle of Indiana. Extremely diverse. B-Town is where it's @! I would have never thought being from a big city. Good luck to all on your journey!! It's a great time to go to law school. Oh BTW, ~150 pages assigned reading before day 1 of class--BE READY!!!!!!!
3/12/17---Hey all. just an update as i finally got some time as its officially spring break thank G. If your following me then you know i'm in my second semester 1L. Listen. Law school is Hard AF!!!!! The hardest thing you will probably come across. Cold Calls are sour, Massive Volume of Readings are painful, and Grades are soul crushing, relative to the competition. Everyone is smart. The margins on who's smarter are paper thin. Teachers can only give out a couple of A's and a couple of C's with the rest falling in between (you can fail of course if you don't study). You are in the library Monday through Sunday. Sleep is a luxury. Let me repeat. Sleep is a Luxury!!! Our Con Law professor said the other day "you guys are 1L's....you sleep when you die." #RealTalk. The good news is stick with it and you'll make it through. Time and dedication is the answer. HMU if you have any Q on what to do (not do) when you start up in fall/spring. Good Luck on your cycles!

4/4/17----Some motivation. I Just landed a 1L summer federal district court judicial internship....this is HUGE for 2L summer as employers choose based on your 1L experience and then extend an offer post 3L summer if you perform well. A lot of networking but the brand name really played a role. Work as hard as you can to get into the BEST ranked school it really makes a difference. HmU on the DM 4 any Q
8/24/17---2L life is so much easier! Hang in there....last year 10% dropped out of my class. What a mistake. This game is a long-term play. After LSAT weed out, they weed you out 1L. Now, we take only 12 credits and choose our electives. A reward for hanging in there. Only the strong survive in a room full of type A personalities. Also, you know how to read a case (find the holding & dissect the arguments fast) so familiarity is another sweetener. Good luck all. The reward is worth it!
9/2/17---Hey guys haven't been on here for a minute. don't think anyone is viewing this 2015-2016 cycle page but in case you do just letting you know that you DON'T have to be top 10-30% to land a pretty good internship. I got a great opportunity to work in an entertainment law firm (being middle to lower ranked in my class) and it was just about networking and showing interest. Good luck and keep at it! Any Q's DM me I would be happy to help. Cheers~
9/17/17-New LSAC Policy (starting with Sept 2017 LSAT) allows you to take the LSAT unlimited times (no more 3x max cap within a 2 year period). Interesting to see results. Possibly a spike in LSAT takers. Maybe less pressure on takers. Maybe more demand eventually in applications (not good for scholarship $$ and ease of admissions). Only Time will tell. Good Luck on your December 2017 LSAT!

Biggest Q I get asked is how to get off WL as I got off many WL! So, here's what I did. It may have changed and not work but I believe it holds true: DON'T PUT A DEPOSIT DOWN BY THE INITIAL DEADLINE!!

THATS RIGHT, don't put a deposit down initially rather, ask your school you got into for an extension of time. I believe schools you applied to get a report (unless changed) that tells them who put deposits down and where. If they WL you, and see you put a deposit down in XYZ school---> your likely to not get in. Why would they make you an offer if you already committed elsewhere? That's the theory at least. For me, I didn't put a deposit down on 4/15 of my cycle and towards the end of my cycle I started getting off WL with scholarship $$.

One more thing: I also remember speaking to some admission counselors at various schools and they told me they strive to grab the high LSAT scorers first (up to March/April) b/c they know its easier to snag a high GPA at any time. So if they got their LSAT class mean set by April 15...then they go through their application list to see how they can get their mean GPA up.

Therefore, if you have a high GPA and have not put a deposit you may likely get off the WL.

Finally, visit the 2 or 3 schools you got WL if you can afford it. Say you want a tour. Get to know the admissions staff. This could help if they see you spent $$ to travel to them in addition to the other items i stated above. GOOD LUCK!!

1/12/18-Guys this TIP alone will help you reach the top amongst your peers. I wish i would have done this last year. (1) The minute you get your West Law from home page--> click on Practical Law---> and (2) whatever class your studying search for the "elements". Ex- Contract Elements or Tort Elements. (3) Take these elements on how to prove or defend your claim and put them in Word (this is your outline!). (4) Every case you read in class add to these elements as examples. Cases after all are examples of facts/stories being applied to the rule of law. IF you try this out please post a message here & LMK. It may determine the difference between you transferring UP or getting more scholarship $$. Any Q's HMU in the DM.

Also (Very Important): 1L YEAR you get your schedule from admissions. This means they will LOAD YOU UP with 3-5 BAR CLASSES (think: Mandatory CURVE--> YIKES!!). They do this b/c they need a way to separate the cream of the crop from others in your class b/c FIRMS that come to recruit will have an automatic cut off (top 5%, 7% only) to interview.

BEST, best TIP I can give you----> get 1 course dropped. Go to registrar and ask them to drop one course (and do that course your second semester or your 2L or 3L year). FIRMS don't care about QTY of courses they care about GPA--Period. DO IT and you will kill it your first-semester b/c your peers will be studying for 5 classes where you will be studying (harder) for only 4. #UnfairAdvantage ; -).....

TIP on OUTLINES: People in your 1L class will want to trade or "share outlines" and will end up not coming thru (or give shoddy copy n' paste jobs from notes) at the last minute leaving you holding the BAG. YIKES!! Yes, it's very common. Trust No One! To get into top 5-10% it will be marginal gains that get you above your competition and into the highest paying summer jobs. TREAT each person in law school as a business competitor or adversary. Don't give away your TRADE SECRETS! Trust No One!

Oh---> if you can find a 2L or 3L that has already taken that professor and class get their OUTLINES and review prior to starting or have it up and add/edit notes the way you understand it directly on their outline. THIS will save you tremendous amounts of time you can use for doing PRACTICE TESTS

Yes---you need to do ALL or MOST of the previous practice exams your professor posts before your FINAL. You have ONLY 1 SHOT at hitting the home run.


6/1/18-What's up all. If you are still following me I wanted to give you a quick update. So I made it through my 2L year and I crushed it. My grades were night n' day from 1L year. The major difference is you are in control of what classes to take. Also, I noticed some "gunners" end up slacking as they may have landed their summer gigs. So, this is the time for you to shine and notch up your GPA while theirs takes a ding. Class Rank is a zero-sum game. For you to make it to the top someone has to move a little lower to the bottom.

I'm going to share a LITTLE SECRET (Shhh) with you on how to destroy your competition in your 2L year:

Step 1: Pick small class sizes within area's of the law you like. Most class sizes that are small have a relaxed curve or no curve. Anything under 12 students per class. How to find this? If you go to a public university--> google your school + "grade distribution" and you'll find out exactly what is the typical trend with certain class sizes and past grades.

Step 2: Pick classes that have a trend of the professor giving out A's, A-, or B+ (no C's). Past is surely no predictor of the future but if you notice a trend you can assume a likelihood of a continuation pattern unless there is some anomaly. Unlike a traditional "curved" class where the professor is req. to hand out C, C-, etc.. look for classes where 80% are A, A- & 20% are B+---> you just increased your chance of getting an A or decreased your chance (if not eliminating it altogether) of getting a C or lower.

Step 3: Take more "skills" or "seminar" classes and DO NOT take more than 2 BAR CLASSES (think: mandatory curve) a semester. Usually skill classes such as (trial ad, pre-trial litigation, etc., clinics) or seminar classes (write 20-30 page papers) have no "final" and you can perform throughout the year by achieving certain milestones. These classes feels more like undergrad where your evaluated throughout the year versus one time at the end via a final like a mandatory BAR class. Remember, many students take BAR classes to prep for their BAR exam and this means a bigger class size and a mandatory curve. So, you can take BAR classes but spread them out and take no more than 1 or 2 a semester. This way you can really go HARD studying and outlining for just 1 or 2 bar classes versus 5-6 like you did (or will do) in your 1L year (think: Brutal, Law School Zombie).

Step 4: Most important step. Absolutely crush the competition in class. Become the GUNNER in these classes. Raise your hand, talk, be prepared. Remember some 1L gunners may drop their guard (not saying they will) so be prepared to seize the opportunity. Remember, if these classes don't have the one final at the end then you must also brown nose a bit with your professor. Visit him or her in office hours and make sure they know you are really interested in the course. If you pick a class that you like then this should be automatic. The point is make sure the professor knows your name before you finish the class. Remember towards the end, most students start to "participate" because they may feel they have not. Don't be a sheep. Jump in early.

Step 5: Don't take classes with the lots of top 10% students. After your 1L year everyone will know who got the BIG LAW jobs or who got straight A's or close to it---> avoid any classes with these kids. They will do anything to stay on the top. Once you sign up for your classes (steps 1-4 above) look at the roster on canvas or blackboard and if you see a lot of 10% gunners--> get the F outta Dodge!! Find another class. If one or two, thats fine but preferably YOU should be the gunner with a bunch of average bell curve pool of applicants.

Practical Point: Lots of firms won't even consider you unless you meet a threshold GPA. Therefore you have a second chance your 2L year. Just because you didn't get a "firm job" for your 2L summer doesn't mean you shouldn't do steps 1-5 b/c if you ever want to clerk for a Federal Judge or achieve a LLM they will want to see GRADES. What's better than showing them a steady North East trend in your grades.

Bonus Step: Pay it Forward. This is just for good karma points but what I did was find a 1L that was cool and shared with that person the exact classes to take to BOOST their GPA.

Any specific questions?---Post a comment or HMU in the DM. Good luck. Remember #believe in yourself and stay positive. You are built 4 Greatness.

What's up ladies n' gents. So i'm rounding 3rd base trying to finish strong here my 3L year. One thing i noticed is many of my classmates started slacking this year. Maybe they got their job offers, maybe they started to study for the BAR, who knows. All I know is I smell blood!! That's right. Crimson RED BLOOD Baby.

Biggest advice I can give you on your 3L year is:

1. Choose your classes to BOOST your GPA! The tradeoff you will make is (less classes & bar prep time VS. more classes & no bar prep time). Why more classes? Because as your competition is taking the necessary requirements to graduate (e.g. 10 credits) you have the opportunity to max out at 16 or 17 credits to POP, POP, POP that ----> GPA!! Your goal is to dilute those lower grades (e.g. C+ or B-) with easy classes (seminars, skills, no curve classes). While your competition is taking the min. to get out of law school you want to take the max. Assumption of course is you get A's but you have a great chance to do so if you strategically pick the right courses (see 1A below).

Remember, law school GPA is a zero-sum game. The pie is fixed. Your graduating class (175, 173, 180, etc) is fixed so if you move UP the rank, someone moves down. If you are NOT top 30% you have a massive opportunity to CREEP in there by maxing out your classes strategically. Most of my class mates slacked hard this 3L semester. Quality of their presentations were lukewarm at best. Spend an extra 2-3 hours, add the extra bells and whistles, separate yourself from the competition to make the professor justify how they can't give you anything else BUT an A.

1A. How to choose classes? See "2L Tips" above for the full M.O. but basically (1) less students the better (assumption is no curve); (2) skills based (no final, more baby step projects which alleviates everything riding on one exam; (3) choosing professors that are known for giving out no less than a B. This is most important. If you look up their past history of grades (applies to public law schools), you will notice what grades they historically gave out. So you will increase your chances of getting an A or A- if the floor is set at a B (vs. a large, curved class with the floor set at a C).

1B. While in these "easy" classes perform like your in 1L year. Raise your hand, become the "gunner," show the professor your engaged & visit his or her office once or twice even if you think you understand the material (don't over do it though). While your classmates are dreaming about their future (cars, homes, clothes, etc..) you will be in the present-crushing it!

Bottom Line: Go HARD AF as your competition slacks. Creep into that top 1/3rd bracket. Even if you don't have a job remember down the road, clerkship, employment, LLM, whatever....the first qualifier to get an interview or the job is a floor GPA. Why? Imagine you make an error on a client's file & the senior partners at your law firm start inquiring into your qualifications. Doesn't look good to the client. Eliminate that scenario. Even if you go solo, it's always nice to say you graduated top 1/3 of your class.

Also, if you don't have a gig lined up but you pass the bar and start networking and realize you have an opportunity for a plug, they will require a healthy GPA to at least get an interview.

GPA, initially, is the golden ticket whether we agree or not, like it or not. It's the law school game and the passport to get gainful employment (initially).

That's it for now. Any Q's HMU in the DM. Peace.


1/15/19: It Works!!! Just got my grades back from 3L and crushed it 3.8 GPA (for the semester) all A's and one B+. I implemented the strategies above. I had 2 "bar classes" and rest were skills classes, with small class sizes. One more semester to go b4 i graduate.

The more my 3L classmates slack and don't care the more opportunity I got to shine (and you too). You want the competition to NOT be motivated b/c it gives you a chance to BOOST your GPA!!!

If anyone has implemented the steps above or has Q's please HMU in the DM. Good Luck Y'all!

2/24/19: What's up Everyone. Just negotiated with BARBRI for the BAR test prep. There sticker price is $2695 + , got it down to $1495 OTD!! Don't Pay Retail! Any 1L/2L/3L's DM me if you want details. take care.
3/07/19: Just got notified today that I won the "CALI Award" for scoring the highest grades in two of my classes for Fall 2018! It's all a game ladies n gents---> See above tips to beat it!----It works!!! Check out: https://www.cali.org/faq/15688

btw--> amazing resource to do practice questions!!! I found out some students in my 3L class never heard of CALI or ever used it. Sucks 4 them...
4/20/19: Finals Begins!!! Ahhhhhh....J/K.. what's up all, I wanted to mention an amazing resource to prep for finals: West Law Practice Law Series. Imagine having your entire course summed up quick with all the excess fat trimmed out (i.e. most important holdings from each circuit for live practitioners in the field). Go to West Law--> Practice Notes--> Type in your subject (e.g. Crim Law) and download the "Practice Law." (i.e. for all the topics/issues, such as Mens Rea). Once you see one, scroll down and your'll see related issues. Download all of them (word is better to download them into your outline). Hands down, the best resource to save you hours.....NO more scanning through your 100 + page outline! As most of the 3L's are packing and drinking, I'm feasting on this gem to enhance my GPA and put a dagger in my competition b4 I'm outttta here! HMU if you have any questions. Otherwise, Peace out-
05/2/19---Whats up ladies n gents! just finished my last set of law school exams! whew... glad but sad cause grinding it out and learning the law with creative arguments was pretty cool...anyways one tip i wanted to throw out...know your professor and their style. For instance, my last exam, i had a professor that was known to give out A's based on word count. Yes, the rumor goes, that professor would first look at the word count before grading each students exam. Now, for my last exam, there was one student that finished 1 entire hour early...don't think he realized the type of professor he was dealing with....I stayed to the last second i think i might have wrote a 10,000 page MS lol. Anyways, don't know if its true or not but i rather be on the side of preference than not. Know your professor's preferences and look at their grade distribution BEFORE you take the final. take care-
05/04/19---GraduateD!!!!!!!!! Wow I'm done can't believe it!! Full circle..... It feels like yesterday that I paid to sit 4 my first LSAT exam....Time Flies... It's Over! The journey was Real!! A rough ride to say the least but I made it thru in one piece...and I know you can too...just keep up the hard work & dedication no matter what (b/c you will face severe ups & downs throughout the ride)! Just Never, never give up!!! Lot's of people in my 1L quit after a couple of weeks.....That gave me more motivation to slug through it......If anyone has any Q's please HMU on DM...I'll be more than happy to help as i take breaks from this dreaded BAR exam prep!!! ugggggh......Anyways, good luck on your LSAT's and getting accepted to your dream school's---------> Peace Out Y'all!<------------------------

11/20/2020: I passed the FL BAR!!!!!!!!!! first-time taker. what a feeling. Hang in there guys you can do it! put in the hard work and the results will follow.

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  • Wednesday, January 20 2016 at 01:39 PM

MY fingers are crossed for you, just becuasue i didnt make the cut, doesnt mean you wont :) good luck

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hey, I went to one of their events and got a waiver than

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Congrats on your acceptance to GGU! I'm hoping to hear back from them soon. I see that we sent our applications to them around the same time - when was yours marked as complete and in review?

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I couldn't figure out how to respond to your question on my page but, yes, I was given a full tuition scholarship to New England.

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Congrats on John Marshall! Awesome location right in the middle of the city!

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What was the $1,500 for? Was that a seat deposit? Congrats on all the acceptances.

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Did UGA update the online status checker or just send snail mail?

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Congrats on your acceptances!

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Hey, I was curious, what is stopping you from a retake?

- dw487
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  • Wednesday, April 06 2016 at 05:07 PM

Did they email you to notify of acceptance? Also for Boulder are you in the priority waitlist or standard waitlist?

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  • cost this cycle?
  • Saturday, April 09 2016 at 04:54 PM

How much did it cost you to send out all those applications? I was going to apply to many schools, but couldn't afford the $30 a pop, even with fee waiver, you only can apply to 3 schools for "free". So I only did 4 additional apps. Interesting you were rejected from Valpo.

- mooseb
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  • Monday, April 11 2016 at 01:00 PM

Thanks! You had an awesome cycle as well. I have actually decided to attend IU after I went to the admitted students day. What school are you leaning towards?

- jmh2029
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  • Tuesday, April 19 2016 at 11:53 AM

Congrats on your acceptance to Santa Clara! I feel exactly the same way -- haven't heard much from them (beside their responses to my emails which is basically "thank you for your continued patience.") I'm really hoping to hear from them by the end of this month and have some peace of mind!

- nkristine
  • Tuesday, May 17 2016 at 02:50 AM

Accepted at Hofstra hooray but My favored schools are Pace/NYLS and Brooklyn

- miki1
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I'm leaning toward SU!! Which one are you leaning toward?

- jessalynn318
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first downpayment coming up next week for some schools hopefully it will free up some space

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Thank you, aarwu2000. I'm going to WVU! Have you chosen a school yet?

- purpleheartgoldblood
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  • Monday, August 01 2016 at 11:22 PM

Seems we both got our waitlist notification for maine law on the same day. Has your status changed? Mine is blank and says a letter was sent out 7/28

- Wiselucy
  • Thank you
  • Wednesday, March 15 2017 at 01:19 AM

Your documentation of your process is super insightful. Thanks for posting.

- marj2454
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  • Thursday, January 18 2018 at 07:00 PM

posting all the information, and the tips! Super awesome, keep posting please! Wishing you the best!

- RoundTwoHopeful
  • Thanks, again, for...
  • Tuesday, June 19 2018 at 01:05 AM

your comment on my profile. I'm always glad to hear people enjoyed their experience at Berkeley Law. I'll find out soon enough for myself :) Love the tips on the bottom right of your profile, in particular, not taking more than 1 or 2 bar courses. That makes darn good sense! Although, unfortunately, at Berkeley Law they force 1L's to take 3 bar classes their first semester, 1 legal writing course, and a choice of an elective. I'll certainly be following your advice and finding a small elective course to round out what I imagine to be a brutal first semester. Thanks again for the info and tips! Please keep it coming :)

- RoundTwoHopeful
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  • Thursday, June 28 2018 at 07:41 AM

Saw your comment on my profile, and just wanted to say thank you. I've actually been a follower of your profile ever since I've been on this site. Your updates throughout your law journey have really helped me. Thank you again & good luck to you!

- KavehOVO95
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  • Monday, April 01 2019 at 06:42 PM

Wow! so much knowledge, Thank you! and congrats on all your success

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