tcwhat (2012-2013)

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Application Information

F - Fee Waiver, A - Attending, W - Withdrawn, D - Deferred

Law School

University of Alabama F

Accepted A

$60,000

10/29/08

10/30/08

11/07/08

01/20/09

4 years

Washington University in St Louis F

Accepted W

$54,000

10/29/08

11/01/08

11/06/08

04/06/09

4 years

Southern Methodist University

Waitlisted W

11/11/08

11/12/08

11/20/08

05/14/09

4 years

Northwestern University F

Waitlisted

11/11/08

11/12/08

11/20/08

04/27/09

4 years

Washington and Lee University

Waitlisted W

11/11/08

11/13/08

11/20/08

03/09/09

4 years

Georgetown University

Waitlisted W

10/29/08

10/31/08

11/04/08

12/09/08

4 years

Vanderbilt University F

Waitlisted W

10/29/08

10/30/08

11/12/08

01/23/09

4 years

University of California Los Angeles F

Rejected

01/21/09

01/22/09

02/20/09

04/24/09

4 years

Baylor University F

Accepted W

10/29/08

10/30/08

10/31/08

03/25/09

4 years

Indiana University Bloomington

Waitlisted W

11/11/08

11/13/09

11/25/08

04/21/09

4 years

Cornell University

Rejected

10/29/08

10/31/08

03/03/09

04/03/09

4 years

Emory University

Rejected

11/11/08

11/12/08

12/02/08

03/25/09

4 years

University of Texas Austin

Waitlisted

10/29/08

10/31/08

11/17/08

03/09/09

4 years

Tulane University

Accepted W

$90,000

11/11/08

11/12/08

11/20/08

01/30/09

4 years

University of Oklahoma F

Waitlisted W

01/21/09

01/22/09

01/30/09

03/02/09

4 years

Duke University

Waitlisted

10/29/08

10/31/08

11/06/08

02/17/09

4 years

Boston College

Rejected

11/11/08

11/13/08

11/19/08

02/03/09

4 years

Columbia University F

Rejected

10/29/08

10/30/08

11/11/08

02/03/09

4 years

University of Pennsylvania

Rejected

11/11/08

11/12/08

11/25/08

01/28/09

4 years

University of Virginia F

Waitlisted

10/29/08

10/30/08

11/05/08

11/19/08

4 years

University of Chicago

Rejected

10/29/08

10/30/08

10/31/08

01/12/09

4 years

University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign F

Rejected

11/11/08

11/12/08

11/21/08

01/12/09

4 years

University of Minnesota Twin Cities F

Rejected

11/11/08

11/12/08

11/17/08

12/29/08

4 years

University of Notre Dame

Rejected

10/29/08

10/30/08

11/05/08

11/18/08

4 years

Applicant Information

LSAT:

170

LSDAS GPA:

3.18

Degree GPA:

3.6

College Name or Type :

Unremarkable State School

Major :

English

Class Rank :

N/A

Demographic Information

City :

N/A

State :

Texas

Race :

N/A

Gender :

Male

Years out of Undergrad :

In Undergrad

Extra Curricular Information

For those with similar numbers, do not use my cycle as any indication on how your cycle might or might not go. I have some unusual aspects about my application that have likely lead to the outcomes I've received. At the end of the cycle, for posterity, I will explain those aspects in this space.

ADDITIONAL INFO & UPDATES

#s on rejections reflect Chiashu percentages rounded up
#s on acceptances reflect current preferences

Timeline:
Nov. 11 - All applications are in the wild.
Nov. 14 - Decided to go ED at Virginia.  
Nov. 18 - Rejected at ND(small, white envelope) 
Nov. 19 - Waitlisted at Virginia(email)
Nov. 24 - In Review at Minnesota
Dec. 4 - Held at UT(email)
Dec. 9 - Went to Decision at Georgetown
Dec. 12 - \"Preferred\" Waitlist at Georgetown(letter)
Dec. 18 - In Review @ Illinois
Dec. 29 - Decision Letter Sent @ Minnesota
Dec. 31 - Minnesota Reject(Letter)
Jan. 5 - Received UCLA Fee Waiver
Jan. 9 - Under Committee Review @ Penn
Jan. 12 - Denied @ Illinois(Status Checker)
Jan. 12 - Decision Mailed @ Chicago.  
Jan. 15 - Chicago Rejection(Letter)
Jan. 20 - Decision Made - Alabama
Jan. 22 - Held at Northwestern until April. 
Jan. 23 - Decision Mailed @ Vanderbilt 
Jan. 23 - Accepted @ Alabama(phone call)
Jan. 26 - In Review @ Tulane
Jan. 28 - Decision Rendered @ Penn
Jan. 29 - Deferred to regular decision @ SMU(status checker)
Jan. 30 - Accepted @ Tulane(Email) & Waitlisted @ Vanderbilt
Feb. 3 - Rejection Trifecta - Columbia, Penn, Boston College(mail)
Feb. 4 - Scholarship from Alabama, $20,000/yr renewable with 3.0
Feb. 5 - Scholarship from Tulane, $30,000/yr renewable with 3.0
Feb. 6 - Confirmed I will be visiting Alabama next week
Feb. 7 - Held at Indiana(mail)

Feb. 15 - After my Alabama visit, I\'ve made a few decisions:

First, I\'ll be withdrawing from Tulane this week.  No reason to hold up scholarship money when I know I\'d attend Alabama before Tulane.

Second, if it comes down to Alabama, I\'d be happy to attend there, admittedly with some reservations.

Third, I will remain on the waitlists at GTown and Virginia until July 1st.  These are two schools I would forgo the scholarship at Alabama to attend.  In addition, I have made public 3 apps(Texas, Duke, Northwestern) that for which I would forgo the scholarship at Alabama and if waitlisted would wait until July 1st.  For Northwestern and Texas, I might consider extending my arbitrary deadline a little further.

Feb. 18 - Went to decision at Duke.  Also, received package from parents with all mail from law schools and in my Penn rejection letter it states:

\"We congratulate you on your many achievements to date and recognize the contributions that you have made to this University as a Penn Student.\"

Only problem is I never went to Penn.

Feb. 20 - Waitlisted at Duke(email)
Mar. 1 - Cornell will be reviewing my file with only one professor recommendation and one employee recommendation.  I am trying to procure another but it is an almost certain rejection because of this snafu.

Mar. 2 - Oklahoma, seriously, a waitlist?

Mar. 9 - Things have started to slow and become dull even though I have like ten decisions left - I miss the news almost every couple days of February and January, rejections and all.

Mar. 9 - Waitlisted at UT

Mar. 13 - Waitlisted at Washington and Lee

Mar. 21 - Emailed Baylor earlier this past week to see what the deal is on my application.  Received a response today saying a decision should arrive soon.  I bet it will be a rejection because of annoyance.

Mar. 24 - Baylor acceptance.

Mar. 25 - Rejected from Emory

Apr. 03 - Went to decision at Cornell, assuming rejection because no change in status checker.

Apr. 06 - Received an indecision from WUSTL - they placed me on Hold.  Hooray.  Also, officially rejected from Cornell.

Apr. 21 - Waitlisted at IU-Bloomington - looks like they are already treating me like their brethren in the US News 20-29 rankings.  I would\'ve stayed on this list if received notification earlier due to the fact I liked IU(my parents were IU undergrads), but I can\'t bear another waitlist.

Apr. 24 - Rejected at UCLA(mail) and waitlisted at Northwestern

Apr. 25 - Withdrew from the Georgetown and Vanderbilt waitlists.

Apr. 26 - Submitted additional LOCIs to Virginia, Duke, Texas, and Northwestern.  Submitted letter confirming my intent to ride the waitlist a little at NU.

May 14 - Waitlisted at SMU.  The joke continues.

June 12 - While watching people get off waitlists at other schools I\'m still in the running for - Northwestern and WUSTL, I really just want this process to be finished.  I\'m meh on WUSTL but hopeful about Northwestern.  Self imposed deadline is coming up quickly.

June 26 - I was literally writing out a check for a deposit on an apartment in Tuscaloosa when WUSTL emails me.  They accepted me and gave me a scholarship but I don\'t know if it will be enough.

July 6 - Withdrew from WUSTL sometime last week; Bama it is.

#s on rejections reflect Chiashu percentages rounded up
#s on acceptances reflect current preferences

Timeline:
Nov. 11 - All applications are in the wild.
Nov. 14 - Decided to go ED at Virginia.
Nov. 18 - Rejected at ND(small, white envelope)
Nov. 19 - Waitlisted at Virginia(email)
Nov. 24 - In Review at Minnesota
Dec. 4 - Held at UT(email)
Dec. 9 - Went to Decision at Georgetown
Dec. 12 - "Preferred" Waitlist at Georgetown(letter)
Dec. 18 - In Review @ Illinois
Dec. 29 - Decision Letter Sent @ Minnesota
Dec. 31 - Minnesota Reject(Letter)
Jan. 5 - Received UCLA Fee Waiver
Jan. 9 - Under Committee Review @ Penn
Jan. 12 - Denied @ Illinois(Status Checker)
Jan. 12 - Decision Mailed @ Chicago.
Jan. 15 - Chicago Rejection(Letter)
Jan. 20 - Decision Made - Alabama
Jan. 22 - Held at Northwestern until April.
Jan. 23 - Decision Mailed @ Vanderbilt
Jan. 23 - Accepted @ Alabama(phone call)
Jan. 26 - In Review @ Tulane
Jan. 28 - Decision Rendered @ Penn
Jan. 29 - Deferred to regular decision @ SMU(status checker)
Jan. 30 - Accepted @ Tulane(Email) & Waitlisted @ Vanderbilt
Feb. 3 - Rejection Trifecta - Columbia, Penn, Boston College(mail)
Feb. 4 - Scholarship from Alabama, $20,000/yr renewable with 3.0
Feb. 5 - Scholarship from Tulane, $30,000/yr renewable with 3.0
Feb. 6 - Confirmed I will be visiting Alabama next week
Feb. 7 - Held at Indiana(mail)

Feb. 15 - After my Alabama visit, I've made a few decisions:

First, I'll be withdrawing from Tulane this week. No reason to hold up scholarship money when I know I'd attend Alabama before Tulane.

Second, if it comes down to Alabama, I'd be happy to attend there, admittedly with some reservations.

Third, I will remain on the waitlists at GTown and Virginia until July 1st. These are two schools I would forgo the scholarship at Alabama to attend. In addition, I have made public 3 apps(Texas, Duke, Northwestern) that for which I would forgo the scholarship at Alabama and if waitlisted would wait until July 1st. For Northwestern and Texas, I might consider extending my arbitrary deadline a little further.

Feb. 18 - Went to decision at Duke. Also, received package from parents with all mail from law schools and in my Penn rejection letter it states:

"We congratulate you on your many achievements to date and recognize the contributions that you have made to this University as a Penn Student."

Only problem is I never went to Penn.

Feb. 20 - Waitlisted at Duke(email)
Mar. 1 - Cornell will be reviewing my file with only one professor recommendation and one employee recommendation. I am trying to procure another but it is an almost certain rejection because of this snafu.

Mar. 2 - Oklahoma, seriously, a waitlist?

Mar. 9 - Things have started to slow and become dull even though I have like ten decisions left - I miss the news almost every couple days of February and January, rejections and all.

Mar. 9 - Waitlisted at UT

Mar. 13 - Waitlisted at Washington and Lee

Mar. 21 - Emailed Baylor earlier this past week to see what the deal is on my application. Received a response today saying a decision should arrive soon. I bet it will be a rejection because of annoyance.

Mar. 24 - Baylor acceptance.

Mar. 25 - Rejected from Emory

Apr. 03 - Went to decision at Cornell, assuming rejection because no change in status checker.

Apr. 06 - Received an indecision from WUSTL - they placed me on Hold. Hooray. Also, officially rejected from Cornell.

Apr. 21 - Waitlisted at IU-Bloomington - looks like they are already treating me like their brethren in the US News 20-29 rankings. I would've stayed on this list if received notification earlier due to the fact I liked IU(my parents were IU undergrads), but I can't bear another waitlist.

Apr. 24 - Rejected at UCLA(mail) and waitlisted at Northwestern

Apr. 25 - Withdrew from the Georgetown and Vanderbilt waitlists.

Apr. 26 - Submitted additional LOCIs to Virginia, Duke, Texas, and Northwestern. Submitted letter confirming my intent to ride the waitlist a little at NU.

May 14 - Waitlisted at SMU. The joke continues.

June 12 - While watching people get off waitlists at other schools I'm still in the running for - Northwestern and WUSTL, I really just want this process to be finished. I'm meh on WUSTL but hopeful about Northwestern. Self imposed deadline is coming up quickly.

June 26 - I was literally writing out a check for a deposit on an apartment in Tuscaloosa when WUSTL emails me. They accepted me and gave me a scholarship but I don't know if it will be enough.

July 6 - Withdrew from WUSTL sometime last week; Bama it is.

Visitor Comments

Alabama
Thursday, October 30 2008 at 07:41 AM

I thought about the same thing too...if i get hosed in the cycle im going to apply there.

- Dantimreynolds

About ND
Saturday, November 15 2008 at 01:26 PM

I'd think you have a better shot at it than I do but who knows when we'll find out. Everybody but one guy on here have been RD applicants.

- econtutornv

ND
Sunday, November 16 2008 at 04:01 AM

sent a letter (in a regular-sized envelope), but no email.

- seraphita

long time
Tuesday, November 18 2008 at 03:25 PM

Havent heard from you since before Oct LSAT. (we were prepping on the importworld.com turned LSAT website). Hope your cycle goes well, you obviously did well in Oct. and I think you should be good at UVA ED... just my .02 cents.

- n4sir1999

Baylor
Wednesday, November 26 2008 at 01:27 PM

Thanks for the congrats, and no, I haven't heard anything about scholarship money. I though that was a bit weird, but we'll see what comes with the acceptance packet. I'll be interested in watching your cycle since our numbers are similar. Sorry about ND, I feel that I am going to be in the same boat for UT. Best of luck to you!

- nontradintexas

UT
Thursday, December 04 2008 at 04:48 PM

Still no word for me...holding out hope for an EA acceptance, surely they have a few left to give.

- nontradintexas

fingers crossed
Sunday, December 07 2008 at 04:51 PM

lets hope so...

- n4sir1999

Monday, December 08 2008 at 03:08 PM

Good luck with Texas. Can't believe ND turned down your numbers, and in state to boot. Their loss.

- CarolinaSplitter

Thanks
Monday, December 08 2008 at 04:10 PM

The first one is nice, I was starting to get pretty downcast about the whole situation (and wondering if my roommate had sneaked some F-bombs in my PS when I wasn't looking). Still shocked by your ND reject but I'm that one (or many!) T14 accepts will make up for it.

- econtutornv

UT hold
Tuesday, December 09 2008 at 08:23 AM

Well, I got the hold email, too. No love for splitters during early decision from UT, I suppose.

- nontradintexas

UT
Tuesday, December 09 2008 at 01:28 PM

Yeah, UT is definitely my #1. Hopefully we'll hear something positive early in the regular decision cycle. Good luck with Georgetown!

- nontradintexas

G-Town
Tuesday, December 09 2008 at 10:08 PM

Hopefully that's a nice early X-mas present for you, good luck TC!

- econtutornv

Friday, December 12 2008 at 04:54 PM

Thanks, congrats to you too! No...my letter doesn't say anything like that. It says something about how I am one of the applicants they would like to let in, and that I will be given priority in the waitlist (but not within the preferred waitlist). It also says that the preferred waitlist is not ranked.

- becca87

Friday, December 12 2008 at 07:42 PM

Hm, I don't know...all I've heard about is a general waitlist, and the preferred waitlist. The exact text of mine is: "Applicants on the Preferred Waiting List are among those we would like to include in our first year class. These applicants have the strongest credentials of all waiting list candidates and, as a result, receive priority consideration if spaces become available..." I'm just hoping for the best I guess.

- becca87

Georgetown
Saturday, December 13 2008 at 07:43 AM

Hey, I was put on the regular waitlist. Good luck in your cycle!

- DianaG

Yeah man
Saturday, December 13 2008 at 01:12 PM

I'm sure you'll get the Wash U acceptance. I think, for better or for worse, they are one of the schools that sees the numbers more importantly than the backstory, and your 170 is like the holy grail for them. I kinda doubtful that the 90K they gave splitters last year will be coming our way though. The preferred waitlist at Georgetown will probably turn into an acceptance. Remember how big their class is, so they'll have a ton of movement, in my opinion. As of now, you are much closer to the T14 than I am.

- bloomlaw

MN
Wednesday, December 31 2008 at 10:46 PM

That's a bummer TC, they rejected me as well. Hopefully the new year is kinder to you.

- econtutornv

Friday, January 02 2009 at 09:49 AM

I'm surprised you got dinged at Minn too. Congrats on GTown tho!

- n4sir1999

I've
Friday, January 09 2009 at 12:07 PM

been following your cycle. Some of these rejections seem straight up bizarre. I know you've got some harmful things on your resume, or whatever, but this is getting downright ridiculous. That being said, I'm sure you have a bunch of acceptances coming. Care to PM me your other schools? My cycle is going well, but nothing there is much of a suprise, and i'm sure the schools will eventually come around to your side. With the big boys, you're 0-0-2, i'm 0-1-1, so in that aspect you are winning.

- bloomlaw

NW
Monday, January 19 2009 at 08:49 AM

No, I didn't. Looking back, I was overseas and it would have been a hassle, but I wish I would have. I'm not feeling very confident. I also don't have any true work experience, and I didn't write the why NW essay. I think my odds are VERY low for an admit there, but I'm holding out hope. But yeah, the 8 weeks are up in a about a week or so. Likely won't be good news though.

- bloomlaw

Baylor
Thursday, January 22 2009 at 05:17 AM

check out Baylor's status checker...mine says decision has been sent but I did not get an email, most like a rejection? Good luck with everything!

- smileyn

Does Bama call?
Thursday, January 22 2009 at 09:44 AM

I can't see how they would reject you... I hope you're wrong so you have one under your belt.

- n4sir1999

Vandy
Friday, January 23 2009 at 10:06 AM

Don't think Denial. From the looks of it a whole mass of splitters went today. Im thinking waitlist/ins.

- Dantimreynolds

Decision at vanderbilt
Friday, January 23 2009 at 10:27 AM

Uhoh. Splitters everywhere. I'll put my money on waitlist.

- bloomlaw

congrats!
Saturday, January 24 2009 at 03:44 AM

i've seen you around on LSD and i'm so glad to see good news! congrats!

- audreyann7

Baylor
Saturday, January 24 2009 at 09:18 AM

Thanks for all the encouragement. After much reflection it was probably an LGBT advocacy internship that I put on my resume that kept me out (I probably wouldn't have fit in anyways...) Congrats on Bama! Keep me posted on how the rest of your cycle goes!

- smileyn

'Bama
Saturday, January 24 2009 at 09:39 PM

Congratulations again TC!

- econtutornv

UT
Sunday, January 25 2009 at 01:18 AM

you know what's funny, I think I just decided to withdraw from UT. Just doesn't make sense for me. Do you think I can attach a note asking if they can take TC in my place???

- audreyann7

Congrats
Monday, January 26 2009 at 06:37 AM

On the first acceptance! Hopefully some more good news will follow.

- luckygehrig

Re: Vandy
Monday, January 26 2009 at 04:09 PM

Good luck to you as well! Here's to hoping we'll hear from them this week.

- luckygehrig

SMU
Tuesday, January 27 2009 at 04:40 AM

Check out this thread: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=51824 I actually visited SMU yesterday and they said decisions won't be out for another 2-3 weeks, they seem to be backlogged. I think we both have a strong chance. GL!

- smileyn

SMU again
Tuesday, January 27 2009 at 04:47 AM

Oh, and my status checker hasn't changed since 1/9/09 when I went complete, but I am not ED.

- smileyn

switcharoo
Tuesday, January 27 2009 at 12:31 PM

Ok that's a deal. Just make sure on the first day of class you're wearing a dress, a wig, and heels. They won't even notice...

- audreyann7

I knew it!
Tuesday, January 27 2009 at 01:17 PM

I knew Bama couldn't reject you! congrats!

- n4sir1999

Congrats on Tulane
Friday, January 30 2009 at 10:25 AM

Looks like your cycle has started to turn around!

- luckygehrig

SMU
Friday, January 30 2009 at 11:43 AM

HEY! not to be stalkerish but my status at SMU changed to "hold for further review" too!! DONT YOU HATE THAT!!! how did you find out abt UVA btw? :)

- lawftw

Not yet
Monday, February 02 2009 at 12:43 PM

I don't know what the deal is, if I'm getting a scholly from them or not. I thought I would at least get something.

- bloomlaw

Ow
Tuesday, February 03 2009 at 09:05 PM

3 dings in one day. That just sucks, sorry TC

- econtutornv

Tulane
Thursday, February 05 2009 at 06:11 AM

Does the money Tulane is offering make it a possibility versus one of the T14 you applied to?

- timoteo

Schollys
Thursday, February 05 2009 at 04:50 PM

Congrats on the big scholarship offers.

- luckygehrig

haha
Friday, February 13 2009 at 10:27 PM

I emailed alabama, and just got a response back saying "they are considering applicants". lol, guess they aren't a fan of me. How was the visit there for you?

- bloomlaw

Penn
Wednesday, February 18 2009 at 05:11 PM

That letter is pretty rough. That would probably be an auto-rejection if an applicant did that, but it amazes me when schools make mistakes like that.

- luckygehrig

UT
Monday, February 23 2009 at 07:11 PM

Thanks, I hope the decision comes quickly, too. I'm tired of waiting, but I'll gladly wait longer for an acceptance instead of getting a quick rejection. Best of luck to you!

- nontradintexas

Mich WL
Monday, March 02 2009 at 07:24 AM

I won't say I'm happy with it, but I'm not disappointed at all. Its about what I expected from them. I didn't write the WHY MICH essay, so I'll be doing that for my LOCI. Still Bama #1 for you?

- bloomlaw

UT
Tuesday, March 10 2009 at 05:31 PM

Waitlist for me, too. Hopefully they'll be kind to splitters going forward.

- nontradintexas

Sunday, March 15 2009 at 11:46 AM

Good Luck on Duke... I love Duke... lol

- n4sir1999

WUSTL
Monday, March 16 2009 at 02:47 PM

How did you hear?!?

- Dantimreynolds

Ouch
Tuesday, March 17 2009 at 06:59 PM

Is it innapropps if I say that your mom is a cock-tease?

- Dantimreynolds

Baylor
Thursday, March 26 2009 at 08:24 AM

How does Baylor fit into the scheme of things? Better than Bama?

- bloomlaw

doubt it
Thursday, April 02 2009 at 10:10 AM

I'm leaning towards Villanova bc of FSU's placement in FL (5% in NLJ 250). How about you? Where are you going to put in a seat deposit?

- n4sir1999

Thanks
Friday, April 03 2009 at 08:08 PM

It feels good, but one of those WL is gonna happen for you. But whats with this June 1st deadline? I'm staying on till they tell me to go away.

- Dantimreynolds

Thanks!
Sunday, April 05 2009 at 05:01 PM

Even though I liked a lot of things at alabama better it's starting to look like BU's where i'm headed...I need that mobility!

- leahcg

hello numbers twin!
Friday, May 01 2009 at 03:32 PM

waitlist ftw

- cpunch

Tuesday, May 12 2009 at 09:11 AM

yeah i'm definitely going to wait it out.. if i get rejected everywhere then I'll just reapply next cycle. what about you?

- cpunch

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tcwhat (2012-2013)

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