dhg5004 (2022-2023)

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Application Information

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# Law School Status Type $$$ Sent Received Complete Interview Date Decision Updated
#3 Brooklyn Law School Rejected Type: RA Sent: 01/07/10 Rec: -- Comp: 03/23/10 Inter: -- Dec: 05/20/10 Upd: 14 years
Rutgers State University Newark Pending Type: RA Sent: -- Rec: 04/09/10 Comp: 04/16/10 Inter: -- Dec: -- Upd: 14 years
#2 Temple University Rejected Type: RA Sent: 12/29/09 Rec: -- Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: 04/05/10 Upd: 14 years
University of San Diego Rejected Type: RA Sent: 12/29/09 Rec: -- Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: 04/27/10 Upd: 14 years
#1 Cardozo-Yeshiva University PT Rejected Type: RA Sent: 03/04/10 Rec: 03/06/10 Comp: 03/17/10 Inter: -- Dec: 04/16/10 Upd: 14 years
#6 New York Law School Accepted W Type: RA $5,000 Sent: 12/29/09 Rec: -- Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: 03/23/10 Upd: 14 years
Widener University Accepted W Type: RA Sent: 12/29/10 Rec: -- Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: 03/22/10 Upd: 14 years
University of Miami Waitlisted Type: RA Sent: 02/12/10 Rec: -- Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: -- Upd: 14 years

Applicant Information

  • LSAT: 155
  • LSAT 2: -
  • LSAT 3: -
  • GRE : -
  • LSAC GPA: 3.29
  • Degree GPA: 3.3
  • School Type: Top Public
  • Major: Business

Demographic Information

  • City: -
  • State: Pennsylvania
  • Race: White
  • Gender: Man
  • Non-Traditional Applicant: Yes
  • Years out of Undergrad: 1-2 Years

Extra Curricular Information

-Current full time employment with a marketing & communications firm in the accounting department.
-2 sales related internships.
-Member of numerous clubs/activities in college.
-Study abroad program junior year in Spain
-Deans list twice
-3.67 Major GPA Marketing/International Business

A shoutout to all the people with a lower LSAT and GPA like myself. Don't worry! Just because we don't get into T14 schools doesn't mean it's 'pointless' to go to law school. (As many of these snobs with LSAT scores in the 170's may tell you) Try to get into a top 100 or top 50 school and do your best! I know many law students/lawyers who went to those kind of schools who are doing very well for themselves. I also know a few who graduated in the T14 who are making a ton of money in 'biglaw' and absolutely HATING their lives. Get in somewhere....get good grades...do your best....and the rest will come! Hang in there! :)

You know what is interesting? There are 14 pages of applicants using this site with LSAT's between 120-160. Meanwhile, there are 24 pages of applicants who score 161-180. All the while...about 15% of applicants score above 160. fact. The evidence speaks for itself without having to relate it to the ratios found on this site.

Are people lying about their LSAT score? Yes. Pathetic? Yes.

Additional info & updates

-Just waiting to hear from all the schools I have applied to. I took the LSAT twice. I didn't score nearly as high as I was scoring on my prac exams blah blah blah. Same sob story for everyone I guess.

My number 1 choice is probably Cardozo/Temple, but with my LSAT score it will be difficult I'm sure.

3/22 Heard from Widener via status checker! Accepted! This was probably my bottom choice but still great to get an acceptance when hearing from the first school.

3/23 Waitlisted at UofMiami by email. My application was put 'on hold' until April 30th. So I am guessing that's their lingo for waitlisting me. Not one of my top choices but we'll see what happens.

[3/23 continued...]

Accepted to New York Law School with a scholarship!!!! Found out via status checker. This is great news! This is one of my top choices. I definitely want to work and live in NYC eventually and NYLS is a great school to jumpstart that. I don't think I'll know how much the scholarship is for until I receive a package in the mail. I don't know when that will be but hopefully soon! I think I'll just withdraw from Miami at this point...

3/27 Received NYLS envelope in the mail. Received 5k a year...was really hoping for 10 but oh well. The school is very expensive...45/yr living expenses. I guess would be 40/yr now. It's something to contemplate... Going to wait to hear from Cardozo/Temple seeing as how they're my number 1 and 2 choices.

3/29 Starting to get worried. Cardozo/Temple are my number 1 and 2 and I still have yet to hear from them. (which seems strange because the Cardozo PT program starts in 6 weeks) I was asked to give NYLS an answer no later than April 16th...So hopefully I hear back from Temple/Cardozo before then. I asked to expedite my application with Temple. I am hoping to do the same with Cardozo...although I would think I'd hear from them in the next week or two. The admissions office is closed for spring break though!! argh!

4/5/2010 Rejected from Temple. Super upset over this...I realize I applied so late everywhere...I'm thinking seriously about reapplying for Fall 2011...

4/8/2010 I know it's super late and may seem stupid to some...but I applied to Rutgers today. I wish I researched this school sooner. It's ranked pretty well and not crazy expensive...and I heard they give their first year students jersey tuition which is nice. The school seems to have a good reputation and great location. Hour from my house and close to NYC - and they have good placement in Jersey/Philly/NYC - all of where I'd be interested in practicing. Hopefully I get in !!! I'd seriously consider this school...over NYLS at this point. I've been hearing bad things about NYLS unfortunately... :(

Still thinking about the possibility of taking another year off....and working at my job at this marketing and communications firm where I'm making pretty decent money. I'd also apply to teach abroad in Thailand or Spain next Spring. Looks good on the app. and I've had friends who have done it and loved it ! Would be cool I think...

In other news I'm going to visit Cardozo/NYLS next week to check out the scene. I am stilllllll crossing my fingers Dozo accepts me to the May program...although I know it's a longshot. Here's to hopin!

4/12 I deferred NYLS. I don't know how I feel about this school anymore. It's super expensive adn ranked dead last in NYC. I just don't think it would be worth the almost full tuition I'd have to spend.

*If I don't get in at Cardozo or Rutgers I may wait another year....teach abroad in Spain or Thailand from Oct-March and just take another year off....definitely don't want to re-take the LSAT though because I just don't think I can increase my score enough to make it worthwhile taking again. I think waiting a year and re-applying on the first day possible would be my best bet....

4/14 Going to withdraw from NYLS. I don't see myself paying that price for that school...seeing as how it's not even ranked. :-/

4/19 So this sucks. Went to visit Cardozo and go on a tour on Friday 4/16 and I loved the school. I checked my status a little bit before the tour at noon and it still said complete and under review. So I go on the tour...speak to an admissions officer...really hit it off with her and she really took a liking to me. She told me they were at the final stages of reviewing my application...and she told me to write an addendum about my low GPA (first couple years i had legit reason for it being low). I then go back to my friends apartment and notice 'decision was rendered and sent'. I later learn that acceptances are called in...waitlists are emailed...rejections are snail mail. Didn't recieve an email or a phone call. Soo guess I was rejected. This is a major upset for me. I'm very depressed over it. Really liked the school and fell in love with the area. I shouldn't be too surprised though...with my low numbers and all.

The admissions officer did tell me to reapply next year though...i really do NOT want to retake the LSAT though. But maybe if I apply early enough with my numbers I can get in...we'll see.


4/22 Decision rendered at San Diego. Thinking its a rejection. Oh well. I probably wasn't going to go there anyway. But another rejection hurts :(

I'm thinking I will either...
1. Go to Rutgers or Miami or Brooklyn (assuming I get in-fingers crossed) and then hope to transfer after my first year to Cardozo or something.
2. Take a year off and reapply at the start of the new cycle...continue working where I am working and maybe teach abroad in the fall/spring in Spain or Thailand.
3. Or search hardcore for a job in NYC (where i want to be ultimatly) and then stick with that for a couple years then go to law school.

So many things going on in my head...any advice would be appreciated!

4/27 Super pissed about Brooklyn. It took 2 months for my one recommender to send my LOR. I most likely won't get admitted because of this. I sent at the start of January and still have not heard. So frustrating. Especially because I am getting rejected from everywhere.

4/29 Off the 'holdlist' at Miami to 'waitlist'. What total bullshit. This school is so unorganized. And good luck being able to talk to a coherent human being in their admissions office. Very close to withdrawing...but at this point I don't have many options. Beside the obvious one of holding off another year and applying super early...

5/11 Got an email from Brooklyn saying they're going through the final stages of my application. I highly doubt I'll get in here...but worth a shot. I don't know why it's taking them so long though. I applied at the start of January...weird. Hoping my softs/personal statement will help me out. We'll see.

5/20 Got a rejection letter from Brooklyn in the mail. Looks like I may not be going to law school.

***BAGGING THE LAW SCHOOL IDEA. Have heard/learned way too many horrible things about it. (from current and new lawyers/current law students/recent law grads) And the idea of being over 100k in debt is not at all appealing to me. And my dream of living and working in NYC certainly cannot be fulfilled by attending law school. Because finding a job in NYC as a lawyer is nearly impossible.

Lawyers are a dime a dozen these days people! Make sure you are CERTAIN that you are willing to invest the time and money pursuing it.

Good luck to everyone!

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Friday, July 31 2009 at 08:00 PM

Sorry to hear about Temple, My numbers are similar to yours and I have not heard anything from them yet despite the fact I applied in October! I am with you on considering 2011. Apparently schools are getting slammed with three to four times the norml number of applications which is making candidates like us who are average numbers wise get waitlisted or rejected. Did Temple E-mail you or did you find out via status checker?

you'll be fine
Thursday, December 10 2009 at 07:00 PM

thanks for the feedback. i hear you about making the best of where you go. as many of my lawyer friends tell me, its not about where you go, its about what you make of it and your ability to work with ppl. a lot of harvard and yale grads dont have ppl skills and get stuck with the tedious(def spelled that wrong) jobs. in other words dont worry you'll be fine

Monday, December 14 2009 at 07:00 PM

i would jump on cardozo, i applied pt. originally complete by thanksgiving, and then i messed everything up by retaking the lsat. deposit down at nyls just waiting to hear anything from cardozo. good luck!

dozo cont...
Monday, December 14 2009 at 07:00 PM

and by that i meant retake in feb.. new complete date =3/6

Tuesday, August 04 2009 at 08:00 PM

Hey- Originally I applied for the full time program and then changed to part time. I can't imagine paying sticker at Cardozo, but I thought I'd hang on to the waitlist just to see what happens. I'm nearly certain that I'm going to W&M. I'm sending my deposit in next week. Best of luck to you. My advice would be to take a year off if you're not happy with where you get in.

Re: Cardozo
Monday, March 15 2010 at 08:00 PM

Hey - just saw your post. Sorry to see your Cardozo decision. :( but best of luck with the rest of your cycle!

Sunday, December 20 2009 at 07:00 PM

No, I haven't withdrawn from Rutgers. It's the only school that I would consider changing my decision to. Not sure why I didn't get in... maybe I didn't have enough soft factors? or they don't take that many Int'l students? Anyways, I wish you luck!

Monday, October 12 2009 at 08:00 PM

Hey man, thanks and good look to you as well! Re: Brooklyn and Rutgers - I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you. Do you think you're gonna apply again next cycle if worse comes to worse?

Wednesday, May 19 2010 at 08:00 PM

Love you LSAT talk. Very true.!!!!