kobe81 (2022-2023)

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Application Information

F - Fee Waiver A - Attending W - Withdrawn D - Deferred
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# Law School Status Type $$$ Sent Received Complete Interview Date Decision Updated
University of California Los Angeles Waitlisted W Type: RA Sent: -- Rec: -- Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: -- Upd: 16 years
University of Southern California Accepted W Type: RA Sent: -- Rec: -- Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: -- Upd: 16 years
Georgetown University Rejected Type: RA Sent: -- Rec: -- Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: -- Upd: 16 years
Chapman University Accepted A Type: RA Sent: -- Rec: -- Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: -- Upd: 16 years
Southwestern University School of Law Accepted W Type: RA Sent: -- Rec: -- Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: -- Upd: 16 years
Loyola Law School Accepted W Type: RA Sent: -- Rec: -- Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: -- Upd: 16 years

Applicant Information

  • LSAT: 168
  • LSAT 2: -
  • LSAT 3: -
  • GRE : -
  • LSAC GPA: 3.41
  • Degree GPA: -
  • School Type: Large Private
  • Major: Political Science

Demographic Information

  • City: Orange County
  • State: California
  • Race: -
  • Gender: Man
  • Non-Traditional Applicant: Yes
  • Years out of Undergrad: 1-2 Years

Extra Curricular Information

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Additional info & updates

Withdrew from Loyola and Southwestern. Don't like LA unless its Westwood and they waitlisted me.

USC offered but at sticker price. My GPA probably hurt my chances of getting money. Slacked off junior/senior years which dropped my GPA from a 3.8 to 3.41. Tuition there is too expensive for me (45k plus housing = 200k debt).

Chapman offered and its a full scholarship for three years. Right now I am going to Chapman unless I get into UCLA. Waitlist is competitive at UCLA, so I don't expect to get in. I like Chapman though. Great location, and I don't have to move out of my parents house. I know its a "TTT" school, but should be TT soon, if they can improve their reputation some more. I know I don't want to do biglaw, so going to a top 20 school isn't a priority. Avoiding debt in this economy is.

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Not Chapman!
Monday, March 02 2009 at 07:00 PM

Choosing Chapman over USC is actually much more risky in this economy. You could easily pay off debts at USC if you enroll in their LRAP program. USC has an infinitely better alumni network and much stronger program. You should seriously reconsider going to Chapman just because you are debt averse right now. I'm saying this as someone who hates USC but wants to see people make good decisions regarding their career. Your LSAT is too good to just throw away on a free ride to a 3rd tier law school.

good points...but...
Sunday, January 24 2010 at 07:00 PM

You make really good points about USC. They are a much better school than Chapman. If I wanted a big firm job, there is no question that I would jump to USC. But because I am more of small firm type of person, I don't think that going to USC would be worth it as much. Most lawyers are making 50-90k starting out in this market, and going to USC with 200k in debt living in Southern California would be too much for me. I also am averse to doing public interest law so I don't think I would benefit from LRAP. Have some friends that work in public interest and they don't like their clients who they say are often lazy and don't realize the value of the services they are providing them. Out of both schools, I would be seeking a small or perhaps a mid sized firm job, and would make the same money, but one with a ton of debt. From Chapman I get a full scholarship if I maintain a 2.0, and I would live at my parents, so I pay for virtually nothing. At USC, I pay sticker price, and will have to move up there unless I want to deal with a 3-4 hour commute every day from OC to LA. So, I guess my situation is different than most people. I'm not going to law school to do big law or to become a federal judge. I just want to get into a firm, make decent money, and have a good balance in life (work doesn't take 90 hours out of my week, and I can spend time with my wife). I think I can get that at Chapman. I will definetly get that at USC, just with a lot of debt to pay off.

Sunday, January 24 2010 at 07:00 PM

I will likely withdraw within the next few weeks. Good luck to you when I do.