laferson (2018-2019)

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Application Information

F - Fee Waiver, A - Attending, W - Withdrawn, D - Deferred
Law School Status Type $$$ Sent Received Complete Decision Updated
University of Washington graph WL, Accepted W 01/10/08 01/11/08 01/20/08 05/30/08 11 years
University of Colorado Boulder graph Accepted W 01/08/08 -- -- 03/09/08 11 years
College of William and Mary graph WL, Accepted A 01/22/08 -- -- 05/21/08 11 years
University of Utah graph Accepted W $5,300 01/13/08 -- -- 03/12/08 11 years
University of North Carolina Chapel Hill graph Waitlisted W 01/12/08 -- -- 04/22/08 11 years
University of Maryland graph Waitlisted W 01/15/06 01/16/08 -- 03/03/08 11 years
University of California Berkeley graph Rejected 01/03/08 -- -- 02/27/08 11 years
Florida State University graph Accepted W 01/15/08 01/16/08 01/21/08 01/28/08 11 years
George Mason University graph Rejected 01/09/08 01/10/08 01/13/08 02/04/08 11 years
Pepperdine University graph Accepted W $17,000 01/22/08 01/23/08 01/30/08 02/11/07 11 years
Boston University graph Rejected 01/07/08 01/09/08 01/25/08 02/26/08 11 years
University of Oregon graph Accepted W 01/15/08 -- -- 04/17/08 11 years
Washington and Lee University graph Rejected 01/09/08 -- -- 04/07/08 11 years
Lewis and Clark College graph Accepted W 01/15/08 -- -- 02/27/07 11 years
University of Texas Austin graph Rejected 01/22/08 -- -- 02/22/08 11 years

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Extra Curricular Information

Lots of work experience that should qualify me as diverse, but we'll see...

Applying to law school is like dating a girl with commitment issues who thinks something better might come along, and then thinks she can figure that out by looking at the car you drive...

ADDITIONAL INFO & UPDATES

05-30-08 Received an email from UW today that up until last week I would have been estatic to receive. They accepted me but for various geographical reasons I'm going to stick with W&M.

05-21-08 Called W&M to see if they received my email detailing my continued interest, and the Dean told me then and there that they were offering me a seat. I was basically speechless but managed to thank him while assuring him of my intent to matriculate. To think that this crazy process finally ends with a phone call I initiated...

05-20-08 Received an email from W and M stating they wanted to place me on their priority waitlist if I was still interested. This threw me for a loop as I thought I had no chance considering the size of their waitlist. Has anyone else received this email, and if you have, do you have any inkling of what your chances are after being placed on their priority waitlist...

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01-31-08--Accepted by Florida State...it was my first response and I'm really glad it was positive. Plus, I'm actually excited about going there if some of my other options go away.

02-04-08 Rejected by George Mason...I was initially surprised to not even be waitlisted but after looking over their website and some of the numbers on this website, I've come to the conclusion that they're just number whores and are more concerned about improving their reputation with the law school rankings. Never trust a free application...

02-11-08 Received a nice big acceptance envelope from Pepperdine. The half scholarship was unexpected and honestly makes it much more attractive...

02-22-08 Thin rejection envelope from U of Texas. Texas was always a stretch, but I am still bothered by the trend towards numbers and the lack of regard for soft factors.

02-26-08 Rejected via thin envelope by BU...

02-27-08 Rejected by Berkeley...no surprise there...but accepted at Lewis and Clark without any money--though they said there may be some available later if I really wanted to attend...

03-03-08 Waitlisted at Maryland via a medium sized envelope...This one hurt as I thought it was my best shot at going to the East Coast...

03-07-08 Withdrew from Lewis and Clark...I would love to live in Portland but the lack of money made that impossible...

03-09-07 Accepted at Colorado-large envelope-I'm stoked about this one!

03-12-08 Accepted at Utah...Phone call from Dean Reyes...He also said scholarship decisions would be announced within the next three weeks..

03-21-08 Small first year only scholarship offer from Utah.

03-24-08 Waitlisted at William and Mary... And thanks to this site, it was expected as it seems they waitlist everyone who falls within a certain range.

03-26-08 Waitlisted at U of Washington via email which stated I was to be part of a pool of about 100 others...This was a surprise as I expected a rejection. I would love to live in Seattle...

03-28-08 Openhouse at Utah was very impressive! The faculty, especially the Dean, left me with a ton of confidence in the U's future. I honestly believe that by the time I graduate Law school in 2011, Utah will be a top thirty school. Their leadership, student to faculty ratio, and resources will continue to propel them upward. Too bad my wife started crying when I told her I was seriously considering living in Utah...

04-14-08 Hand delivered my deposit to CU-Boulder, and withdrew from all other acceptances. It's been a crazy ride, but I feel truly fortunate to have the opportunity to attend a high quality school.

Visitor Comments

  • Hey
  • Thursday, February 07 2008 at 02:46 PM

Congrats on FSU, I sent my application to them in December and haven't heard anything, what did the online status checker say on the website and how did they notify you?

- oldpro55
  • You are greatness
  • Friday, February 22 2008 at 11:52 AM

I agree with everything you've said about UT and Mason. NUMBER WHORES. Anyone who would not accept an American hero such as yourself is a fool. God bless you sir, and God bless America.

- HIGHDAREGUYS
  • UW
  • Monday, February 25 2008 at 05:54 AM

Yeah Seattle's the greatest place on earth. Residency isn't the biggest deciding factor for Washington. I think the mission will help you a lot if it was abroad(I served in Detroit) and the military can't hurt. Best of luck, and maybe they'll accidently let two Mormon philosophers in this year.

- socfan
  • Hey
  • Wednesday, February 27 2008 at 05:23 AM

I'm in southern Afghanistan with the Theater Task Force 1-508th PIR. I am a Captain and infantry officer (right now the BN S4). I'm not too worried about GMU b/c I will probably be going to UCONN (free for in-state veterans so not a bad deal!) Keep in touch and let me know of your progress! SWAT - nice!

- drew82abndiv
  • haha..
  • Wednesday, March 05 2008 at 06:17 PM

"amen!" to the 02-04 comment....lol

- Dream2Shine
  • CU-Boulder
  • Monday, March 31 2008 at 08:47 AM

I got a chance to make the trip down to Boulder early this month and it pretty much cinched the deal for me. I think the key factor in my deciding on it was the job market that it fed into; I'm looking to practice somewhere in the West, preferably in the public sector and in a smaller market as opposed to one of the big cities. The other schools I got into were high-ranked, but not high enough to really qualify as "national" in terms of placement. UW would've been nice, but it didn't pan out. Here's some pros and cons. Pros: -Nicest physical location of all the schools I got in to -Brand-new, *gorgeous* facility (seriously still has that "new law school smell") -Ability to get in-state tuition after one year. -Highest-ranked school in the Rockies (and climbing each year) -Great quality of life (restaurants, outdoor recreation, avg. of 300 sunny days/year) -Decent student health insurance (I have some health issues, so insurance is a big deal for me) Cons (for me): -Boulder is VERY expensive in terms of rent, and the market is dominated by undergrads on daddy's dime (you should probably visit before you sign a lease, though they just mapped all of Boulder on Google Street View. Expect to pay at least $800 for a not-too-impressive 1-br) -Admissions/FinAid staff not nearly as helpful/responsive as at some of the other schools. -Influence diminishes significantly outside of the Rocky Mt. region -The Denver legal center isn't within easy commuting distance (though there are firms in Boulder/Denver Tech Center) -Student body is very traditionally-aged (~22) and many are liberal in the I've-spent-most-my-life-in-the-ivory-tower way (just sayin' re: your service -- I was a West Pointer for a time and, while it isn't Berkeley, it's not BYU either). -LOTS of college-know-it-all hippies in Boulder (but *man* are they fun to watch) But yeah, the biggest con for me was the cost-of-living. Cheaper than Seattle or Portland, but when I was comparing rents in Boulder and Iowa City, choosing Boulder hurt in that aspect). But the pros weighed that out, and I'm actually really looking forward to the move down there. If W&M pulls off their waitlist, and you are looking for insights, feel free to drop me a line -- I finished my undergrad there and a good chunk of my friends are there for law school. Anyhow, good luck on your decision, hopefully I'll see you down in Boulder this August! PS. Thanks for your service.

- logged user
  • CU-Boulder
  • Monday, March 31 2008 at 09:01 AM

PS. Above was me. Again, if it's feasible, I'd recommend visiting before committing; if only to prove to yourself "hrm, this place is really nice." Don't stay in Boulder proper though, unless you're made of money. Try the Comfort Inn in Louisville, it's like 5 miles from the law school but because it's not in Boulder proper, rooms are 1/3 what you'd pay staying in Boulder.

- oh2bwilfordbrimley
  • Boulder
  • Thursday, April 03 2008 at 12:26 PM

I get where your wife is coming from with regard to the career placement stats of Boulder, and I agree to a certain extent with you about career placement being influenced by the choices students make in where they choose to go in the first place, but I think a major factor boils down to...efficiency in the hiring process, I guess is what I'd call it. Outside of the top 10 schools (where most of what they will do for your career happened on the day they admitted you), where you get a job boils down in large part to how much legwork firms are willing to do to hire new blood. I don't buy in to the whole theory surrounding the "we went to the same law school, so therefore i like you more; you're hired" mentality, but what I do buy into is a recruiter for a firm in, say, Richmond, saying "why should I fly all the way out to Colorado to interview students from a school ranked #32 when I can sleep in and drive down the street to find a student from U. Richmond? Yeah, they're only #68, but that means he's likely to accept a job offer at a much lower salary than what we'd have to throw down in order to get someone from Harvard. Plus, since he's already here, we won't have to throw money at him to get him to relocate, nor do we have to pay for him to take a bar review course for our state because he's already taking the bar exam here. His problem's solved, now he gets to go home early. With schools between, say USNWR #18 and #40 or so, I think it boils down to a) you're likely to get the better jobs in the regional markets over most anyone from a lower-ranked school, esp if it's not a huge hub that can pull in T-10s on a regular basis; and b) if you do well there, and you're willing to do the legwork that the recruiters aren't willing to do, you can most likely get a job elsewhere in the nation, especially in places that aren't near a higher-ranked school. Meaning, if you wanted to work in Orlando, and you cold-call firms down there and can demonstrate that you actually want to work there for more than a year or two, they'll probably look at you more closely than they would someone from Barry or Florida International. I mean, I could be way off base, but it passes both the common sense test and the human nature test in my book. But anyhow, I'd be interested in hearing how the ASD at CU goes, enjoy yourself!

- oh2bwilfordbrimley
  • Boulder admissions
  • Monday, April 07 2008 at 09:05 AM

EXACTLY! That's what's been bothering me the most about CU-B. Great school, great location, great students, but the admissions end of the spectrum really left me with a not-so-impressive taste in my mouth. When I came to visit, I dropped by the admissions office the day before my appointment to say hi, and they were friendly and all, but they were pretty much like "yep, we've got you on the list for our tour tomorrow. feel free to walk around, but we'll see you then." then the next day, I come in and the tour pretty much consists of a 1L walking myself and another prospective around the building for five minutes, then taking us to a class, and that was the last I saw of her. When I had specific questions (i.e. "what's the curve?" "how does law review work, is it grade-on or write-on?" "is it easy to find a spot in a clinic?" "are most of the folks you know looking at private sector or public sector?") I got very generic answers that seemed to have a recurring theme of "I haven't a clue, but isn't the view out our window pretty?" Then I waited after class to introduce myself to the prof, and it was essentially just her saying "oh, hi," making it fairly clear that was the extent to which she wanted to chat. That being said, the students and one of the librarians that I chatted up were very friendly, intelligent, and helpful. But seriously. I mean, I don't want people to be fawning all over me, but I *did* take three days off of work and flew all the way from central Alaska to visit their school (on my dime), and if I wasn't already fairly sold on the school, the visit definitely wouldn't have tipped the scales in their favor. Then to top things off, when I got back to AK I wrote an e-mail to the Dean of Admissions/FinAid to thank her and ask about the cost of attendance/potential for merit aid, and I never heard a word back in response. Seriously, she could've taken 30 seconds to write something like "thanks for writing me, I appreciate your concerns, we're reviewing all our students on a continuing basis, and we'll do our best to let you know later on." Although the pragmatic part of me says "well, once you're actually there, you won't have much in the way of dealing with the admissions department anymore," and while I'm certainly not the type who needs a bunch of people patting me on the back saying how smart I am and how lucky they would be to have me (esp. when I know it's the other way around given my numbers), it's nice when people recognize that applicants also have choices in where they decide to spend $30,000+ in tuition for the next three years and treat you like the customer you are. Case in point, I applied to schools last year as well (my LSN profile for that cycle is "arctic"). I did a series of campus visits and talked a bunch with admissions directors. When I visited U. of Arizona, they paired me up with one of their Alaskan students, who took me out to lunch and gave me an Alaskan perspective that was really incredibly helpful. The admissions admin gave me recommendations on finding the best Mexican food in town. The director of admissions met with me one-on-one for a half hour, answered all my silly questions and then took me to the career services director, who did the same. Then they sent me a Christmas card. Made me want to go there even though I knew Tucson would have been the worst possible choice for me to pick in terms of climate. When I was looking at U. Denver, their director of admissions called me from his house at 9PM his time to honestly discuss with me the pros and cons of my options (including his competition), then when finances came up, asked me for 48 hours so he could "look under the sofa cushions and check the pockets of the laundry" for more money, then upped my finaid package by $15k. Made me want to go to DU even though it was a tier 2. Bottom line: personal interaction and treating applicants well requires little investment on their part, but it yields big dividends, and CU-B hasn't seemed to have hopped on that train. As far as UW goes, they're in the running, but only up to a certain point in the year. I've signed on a lease in Boulder, and it's not fair to my fiancee to be jerking her all over the country -- she needs to find a job and plan for her future as well. She's said that if I want UW, that's my choice, but she's only going to pay an security deposit on a place once (Boulder) and any subsequent financial burdens made by my changing law schools will be on my shoulders. So if I had to give an honest estimate, I'd say it's like 85-95% certain we're doing Boulder, unless I hear sooner rather than later on UW. But anyhow, glad to hear you enjoyed Boulder in spite of the downfalls. I'm looking forward to meeting you.

- logged user
  • this thing keeps logging me out...
  • Monday, April 07 2008 at 09:20 AM

If it wasn't obvious, above was me.

- oh2bwilfordbrimley
  • Boulder
  • Tuesday, April 08 2008 at 10:05 AM

I got really fortunate (I hope) and found a 3-br house in South Boulder for $1,400/month. The place is about 3 miles south of the law school, has a fenced backyard and deck, is in a nice neighborhood, backs up to open space, and has a running trail that literally begins at our front door. The rent was so good, comparably speaking, that it makes me wonder what the catch is. I went through a small property management company, Bowerman Real Estate (<a href="http://www.bowermanre.com" title="www.bowermanre.com" class="data">www.bowermanre.com</a>), which when I went through in early March, had a couple other similar houses in South Boulder available in mid-August for around the same price. The lease was pretty standard, no crazy clauses that would appear to leave us hosed if something goes wrong. Housing was the major stress point for us, esp. considering the distance, and the places I spoke with (i.e. HousingHelpers) were not particularly helpful. The market there is so saturated with renters looking to move in in August that it seems like the management companies don't seem to bother because they know they can fill their properties with undergrads willing to sign anything on a dotted line. We decided to spend a couple hundred more a month than we were initially intending to go with a house and not have to worry about neighbors having crazy parties all night long. If you can find a place, I'd recommend looking around South Boulder; it's more of a residential area, and since the law school is on the south side of campus, you don't have to drive through the heart of Boulder to get to the school. Another complex that seemed very nice, albeit on the north side of town, is the Boulders. They're on the expensive side, but seemed quiet, well-built, and professional. If you're looking at apartments, check out apartmentratings.com for reviews. We initially liked Coronado Apts., but they had a shady lease ("you sign a lease with the apartment number blank, and then rank the apartments you want from 1 to 10. If your first choice is unavailable, we go to 2, then 3 and so on.") But yeah, we definitely got more house than we need (or probably should be affording), but I'd rather have a nicer place to start and downgrade later on than the other way around. My fiancee is considering a M.Acc. degree from CSU, so we may split the difference during 2L and 3L and live in Broomfield or someplace slightly out of town. Save a lot of money on rent, but at least for that first year, I'd like to have as many potential "X-factors" like commute, neighbors, etc. taken care of and then go from there. But good luck on the housing process, if you didn't get much time to check out neighborhoods during your visit and want some feedback, I'd be happy to lend my two cents. PS: the UW waitlist should be interesting, if last year was any indication. That would be such a nice alternative for us, esp. with the move -- rather than pulling a U-Haul 3,500 miles while gas is $4+ per gallon, we'd get to just throw it on the ferry and call it a day.

- logged user
  • Congrats!...
  • Thursday, May 22 2008 at 01:14 PM

on W&M! I guess I will be seeing you there. Any thought on where you might live?

- msjb95
  • Congrats on W&M
  • Friday, April 10 2009 at 01:53 PM

So by now you must be finishing 1L at W&M but I am currently finding myself in the WL/hopefully accepted situation. I would love to attend W&M , so any info you can share about steps you took that you feel may have helped you gain acceptance would be greatly appreciated. Good luck with finals! Also, how do you like W&M so far, in a general sense?

- DCDeckard

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