TheOnceAndFuture (2022-2023)

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Application Information

F - Fee Waiver A - Attending W - Withdrawn D - Deferred
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# Law School Status Type $$$ Sent Received Complete Interview Date Decision Updated
#6 Duke University Waitlisted W Type: Sent: 10/06/05 Rec: 10/03/05 Comp: 10/31/05 Inter: -- Dec: 04/24/06 Upd: 18 years
#8 Georgetown University Waitlisted W Type: Sent: 10/05/05 Rec: 10/05/05 Comp: 10/27/05 Inter: -- Dec: 03/03/06 Upd: 18 years
#10 Washington and Lee University F Accepted W Type: RA $12,000 Sent: 10/04/05 Rec: -- Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: 12/19/05 Upd: 18 years
#3 University of Virginia Waitlisted W Type: Sent: 10/04/05 Rec: 10/03/05 Comp: 10/25/05 Inter: -- Dec: 03/24/06 Upd: 18 years
#4 University of Pennsylvania F Accepted W Type: Sent: 10/03/05 Rec: 10/05/05 Comp: 11/02/05 Inter: -- Dec: 12/15/05 Upd: 18 years
#14 University of North Carolina Chapel Hill Rejected Type: RA Sent: 11/15/05 Rec: 11/16/05 Comp: 11/29/05 Inter: -- Dec: -- Upd: 18 years
#6 Cornell University Waitlisted W Type: Sent: 10/03/05 Rec: 10/07/05 Comp: 10/17/05 Inter: -- Dec: 04/08/06 Upd: 18 years
#10 University of Wisconsin Madison Accepted W Type: RA Sent: 10/05/05 Rec: 10/21/05 Comp: 11/08/05 Inter: -- Dec: 12/05/05 Upd: 18 years
#9 University of Minnesota Twin Cities Accepted W Type: RA Sent: 10/19/05 Rec: -- Comp: 11/15/05 Inter: -- Dec: 12/29/05 Upd: 18 years
#3 University of Michigan Ann Arbor Accepted A Type: RA Sent: 10/06/05 Rec: 10/05/05 Comp: 10/23/05 Inter: -- Dec: 12/05/05 Upd: 18 years
#16 Indiana University Bloomington F Accepted W Type: RA $8,500 Sent: 10/07/05 Rec: 10/10/05 Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: 12/29/05 Upd: 18 years
#12 Boston College Waitlisted W Type: Sent: 10/03/05 Rec: 10/05/05 Comp: 10/26/05 Inter: -- Dec: 02/17/06 Upd: 18 years
#12 University of Notre Dame Waitlisted W Type: RA Sent: 10/17/05 Rec: 10/24/05 Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: 02/10/06 Upd: 18 years
#17 University of Colorado Boulder Accepted W Type: RA Sent: 10/03/05 Rec: -- Comp: 11/01/05 Inter: -- Dec: 11/26/05 Upd: 18 years
#2 Stanford University Rejected Type: RA Sent: 10/19/05 Rec: -- Comp: 11/07/05 Inter: -- Dec: 01/17/06 Upd: 18 years
#15 George Washington University Waitlisted W Type: RA Sent: 10/06/05 Rec: -- Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: 12/09/05 Upd: 18 years
#1 Harvard University Rejected Type: RA Sent: 10/04/05 Rec: 10/28/05 Comp: 11/29/05 Inter: -- Dec: 01/12/06 Upd: 18 years

Applicant Information

  • LSAT: 173
  • LSAT 2: -
  • LSAT 3: -
  • GRE : -
  • LSAC GPA: 3.01
  • Degree GPA: 3.76
  • School Type: -
  • Major: -

Demographic Information

  • City: -
  • State: -
  • Race: White
  • Gender: Man
  • Non-Traditional Applicant: Yes
  • Years out of Undergrad: -

Extra Curricular Information

Numbers are up!

The Once And Future Index (my estimated odds of admisison):
Stanford - 0%
Harvard - 1%
Penn - 26%
Cornell - 27%
UNC (out-of-state) - 29%
UVA - 35%
Michigan - 36%
BC - 42%
Duke - 45%
Georgetown - 50%
George Washington - 62%
Notre Dame - 67%
Minnesota - 72%
Wisconsin - 73%
Colorado - 84%
W&L - 84%
Indiana - 92%

Additional info & updates

Sent = Report Date of first LSDAS Report.
Recieved = Date of "application recieved" e-mail or letter.
Decision = Date I recieved decision (not postmark date).

Just so everyone knows, these rankings are preliminary based upon what I could glean from the viewbooks of the schools. I plan on touring each school at which I am accepted before making my final decision.

Notification Formats

* Colorado - large manilla envelope.
* Wisconsin - letter-size white envelope.
* Michigan - large white envelope with blue organizational folder, CD-Rom, and hand-written note from Dean Zearfoss.
* Pennsylvania - Phone call from Dean Meeker.
* W&L - letter-sized white envelope.
* Minnesota - letter-sized white envelope.
* Indiana-Bloomington - priority mail.

* Georgetown - letter-sized white envelope w/ plastic window. (12/14/05)
* Virginia - letter-sized cream envelope (12/15/05).
* Boston College - letter-sized white envelope (12/17/05).
* Duke - e-mail (12/21/05).
* Cornell - letter-sized white envelope. Mising the allegedly-enclosed postcard of continued interest (12/22/05).

* GW - letter-sized cream envelope.
* ND - letter sized envelope.
* BC (Priority Waitlist) - letter-sized enveleope.
* Georgetown (Priority Waitlist) - letter-sized white envelope w/ plastic window.
* Virginia (Priority Waitlist) - e-mail.
* Cornell - letter-sized white envelope.
* Duke - letter-sized white envelope.

* Harvard - letter-sized white envelope.
* Stanford - letter-sized cream envelope.


* W&L - $12,000 per year first year, continues with 3.0 GPA.
* IU-B - $8,500 per year

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Wednesday, September 07 2005 at 08:00 PM

Congratulations on your acceptances so far! We applied to a lot of the same schools at the same time (and I got into Boulder and Wisconsin too). I haven't heard back from Mich yet, but I don't expect's a HUGE reach for me. Not sure if it was a reach for you or not (since you don't list your #'s) but I'm sure you are thrilled, it's a great school. Good luck with the rest of them!

Saturday, November 05 2005 at 07:00 PM

I won't do numbers just yet, but I have a GPA below the 25th at almost every school on my list, and an LSAT above the 75th.

Saturday, November 05 2005 at 07:00 PM

1. It currently helps me keep track of my mail and dates. 2. It helps my friends and family keep track of my acceptances. 3. It will help people next cycle in determining the schools at which to apply becuase my numbers will be up then. This site only works in aggragate, and there simply aren't enough decisions yet for my contribution to be meaningful. I am but one data point in a very large set. Besides, if someone is still trying to decide where to apply based on this year's acceptances, they need more help than this site. And if they have already applied, there is nothing that I can do to help them anyway.

in at penn, mich, WL at GW?
Sunday, November 13 2005 at 07:00 PM

congrats on your accepts. great list. very surprising you got in to mich and penn and got waitlisted at GW... obviously you have good numbers.

Saturday, November 05 2005 at 07:00 PM

It just goes to show that different schools have different views on splitters. GW has never been sympathetic to our cause, but my significan other loves DC, so I paid $70 for a smile. As for the numbers, I feel really bad about not being able to put them up, but I'm hoping for a few more letters soon and then I can disclose them. At the simplest, I can say that the LSAT is 99th% and the GPA is probaly 45th% at nearly every UG in the country.

Saturday, November 05 2005 at 07:00 PM

Excellent post, littlewhile. Sorry to hear about the harassment. People tend to forget that this site is free for people to use as they like, and all information is voluntary. Twnety percent of those with numbers posted are either fake accounts or have fudged their numbers anyway. Some people just take this place too seriously. The spreadsheet was a nice idea. I like it here, in part becuase I have a lot of family and friends tracking my progress, and I simply don't have time for that many phone calls with every decision. Also, I intend to post the numbers for those thinking about applying next cycle, when all is said and done, so it makes sense to have to enter the data only once. Thanks so much for the support, though, and I hope things are going well for you (if I remember your account correctly, before you deleted it, I think they are. So congratulations!

Wednesday, June 29 2005 at 08:00 PM

strange that you are in at michigan and penn but denied at GW. i guess we know who likes LSAT scores now! are u urm?

Wednesday, June 29 2005 at 08:00 PM

not denied, waitlisted; sorry

Saturday, November 05 2005 at 07:00 PM

Thank you all for your support. Shae: No, I'm not a minority. Based on your question, I have added my race in the profile. Dizzeerascal: While I appreciate the offer, I will not trade my Penn acceptance for a Cornell acceptance unless you are prepared to include a generous scholarship and/or a conditional Federal Clerkship. Think about it. ;)

Saturday, September 10 2005 at 08:00 PM

Early Decision is not binding for Texas (why they call it ED and not EA is beyond me)

Friday, September 16 2005 at 08:00 PM

Sorry about Harvard =(. You got some good acceptances under your belt though, so I'd still be happy!

Saturday, November 05 2005 at 07:00 PM

Thanks, postal. My wife made me apply against my better judgement, so I was expecting to get dinged. I'm actually glad I applied now, however; I would have been constantly wondering how far I could have gone after getting into Michigan and Penn (wasn't expecting those, either).

Just A Reminder...
Saturday, November 05 2005 at 07:00 PM

Once the Stanford and Notre Dame responses arrive (hopefully within the next two weeks), I'll post my numbers for those of you who are curious.

Addendums, etc.
Saturday, November 05 2005 at 07:00 PM

Good questions, Oscar. I'll be happy to help to the extent that I can. GPA Addendum: I simply told the truth. I had a rough time early in school, took some time to get my head on straight, and have done well since. It was fairly simple and to the point. PS: In one sense, it was the cliche' "An Experience That Moved Me" topic. However, it was the experience that motivated me to turn my academic career around and do wel, so I thought it was an important story. Also, as it was a real experience (unlike some, from what I've heard) I think the candor and sincerity came through nicely. Numbers: I most likely won't post numbers until I have all of my decisions, not because I believe that there are Adcomms on this site (and others), but becuase I'd rather be safe just in case there are Adcomms on this site. I don't think that having my numbers up at this point will do any good to anyone who has already applied (other than maybe give them some hope), and they will be up intime for those applying next cycle to use them in selcting schools. Therefore, I simply prefer to not take the risk. Hope this helps.

Saturday, November 05 2005 at 07:00 PM

Had you taken the time to read any of the comments above you, you would have seen that thissue had been addressed repeatedly. Quite frankly, if you are among those who weren't being helped by my profile, then I take a certain amount mysanthropic pleasure in having withheld assistance for so long. Unfortunately, one of the psosts you didn't read also said that my numbers would be up upon hearng from ND and UNC. Having just heard from ND, and given my pessimistic attiude toward my chances at UNC, I came here t o put up my numbers today. Your comment almost made me decide against it, but I pride myself on being a man of my word.

Rudy & ND
Saturday, November 05 2005 at 07:00 PM

I've gotta give it to the guy for being clever. I'm not quite sure how making fun of someone for getting waitlisted at a school that wasn't even among their top ten is particularly meaningful, but I at least appreciate the effort to make it entertaining.