azblue82 (2022-2023)

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Application Information

F - Fee Waiver A - Attending W - Withdrawn D - Deferred
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# Law School Status Type $$$ Sent Received Complete Interview Date Decision Updated
University of Kansas Accepted W Type: RA Sent: 11/02/05 Rec: 11/14/05 Comp: 11/21/05 Inter: -- Dec: 03/23/06 Upd: 17 years
Texas Tech University Waitlisted W Type: RA Sent: 11/06/05 Rec: 12/02/05 Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: 01/08/06 Upd: 17 years
University of Missouri Kansas City Waitlisted W Type: RA Sent: 10/25/05 Rec: 10/28/05 Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: 12/20/05 Upd: 18 years
University of Arkansas Fayetteville Waitlisted W Type: RA Sent: 10/25/05 Rec: 11/04/05 Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: 11/25/05 Upd: 18 years
Washburn University Accepted A Type: RA Sent: 10/31/05 Rec: 10/31/05 Comp: 11/02/05 Inter: -- Dec: 11/10/05 Upd: 18 years
University of Oklahoma Rejected Type: RA Sent: 11/02/05 Rec: 11/02/05 Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: 12/08/05 Upd: 18 years
University of Nebraska Lincoln Pending Type: RA Sent: 10/31/05 Rec: 11/04/05 Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: -- Upd: 18 years
University of Arkansas Little Rock Pending Type: RA Sent: 10/25/05 Rec: 11/01/05 Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: -- Upd: 18 years

Applicant Information

  • LSAT: 154
  • LSAT 2: -
  • LSAT 3: -
  • GRE : -
  • LSAC GPA: 3.3
  • Degree GPA: -
  • School Type: Private
  • Major: Bus. Management

Demographic Information

  • City: Glendale
  • State: Arizona
  • Race: White
  • Gender: Man
  • Non-Traditional Applicant: Yes
  • Years out of Undergrad: -

Extra Curricular Information

- Volunteer Income Tax Assistance Program
- Volunteered for additional duty as military police for 3 years in addition to normal everyday duties
- Completed degree while serving on active duty in Air Force from 2000-2004
- Lived in Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and Kyrgyzstan for approximately a year
- Awards/medals from military service overseas in Operation Enduring Freedom, Operation Northern Watch, and Operation Southern Watch
- Non-traditional student...completed a majority of college credits through challenge exams
- Various sporadic volunteer events

Additional info & updates

Here is my opinion on what I feel are my long shot, 50/50 chance, and probable schools:

Long Shot:
Kansas, Oklahoma

50/50 Chance:
Arkansas-Little Rock, Arkansas-Fayetteville, Texas Tech, Nebraska

Washburn, Missouri-Kansas City

Fee Waiver Offers Received:

Texas Wesleyan (11-4-05)
Quinnipiac (11-10-05)
Valparaiso (11-16-05)
Western New England (12-2-05)


I was a little disappointed last week (Oct. 24th) when I received my LSAT score. My practice tests were primarily in the high 150's. However, I hear it is pretty common for the real test score to drop a few points. I'm not too worried about it though because I am still able to apply to most of the schools I intended to apply to anyway.

I welcome any comments that anyone has. Best of luck to everyone for this year's admission cycle!


Today I logged into my LSAC account and noticed that UMKC has already requested my LSAC report. As a matter of fact, they requested it the same day they received my application via the web. I don't know if that is a positive sign or if that is their standard procedure. All I know is that I sent out applications for both Arkansas schools at the same time and they haven't done anything at all yet.


I finally sent out my application for both the University of Kansas and Oklahoma today. Since I barely meet the 2004-2005 LSAT/GPA numbers for the 25th percentile at both schools, I will not be surprised at all if I get a rejection letter from them. I still think its good to reach a little bit though because you never know what kind of people the admission folks are looking for. After all, the worst thing they can do is tell me no.


I received a merit-based fee waiver from Texas Wesleyan via e-mail yesterday. This school was actually one that I considered applying to earlier, but I didn't because I don't have unlimited money to apply everywhere.

I visited the school last year when I was living in Texas and I would say that they are a dark horse for moving up in the rankings for the future. They just built a new library and it appears like they are doing a large scale renovation of their campus. If they play their cards right, they could be a good alternative for students that lack a 160+ LSAT score and cannot get into UT Austin, Baylor, and SMU.


Submitted my application for Texas Tech today. If I get accepted here, it is definitely at the top of my list of places that I would like to attend. They seem to place graduates well in Dallas, Austin, San Antoino, and other major Texas markets. Also, Texas Tech grads usually have a comparitively high starting salary which would make paying off those student loans a lot easier for me :-)


Received an acceptance letter via snail mail from Washburn University today. It is a good feeling to get my first offer because I know that I will be going to law school somewhere next fall.

I don't know too much specifically about Washburn right now in terms of job prospects and the school environment in general. I e-mailed some of the student ambassadors, so hopefully they can give me some more insight on the day to day life at their school.


I drove to Lubbock, TX to visit Texas Tech. It was conveinant for me to schedule this visit because I was visiting some of my relatives in Abilene at the time, so it wasn't too far of a drive for me.

I would say that I liked the impression of the school that I got during my visit. This is definitely a school that has a high preference for admitting qualified veterans. The dean of the law school used to be the head Army JAG and there are a few professors with military backgrounds.

For the cost of tuition and job prospects within Texas afterwards, I think Texas Tech is a school that I will keep high on my list of places to attend.


I drove to Oklahoma on Monday from Texas to have an interview with the assistant dean for students and a tour of the school. It was nice speaking with Dean Evans because he was able to answer all of my questions about the law school.

The Univ. of Oklahoma is by far the best school I have been to in terms of physical appearance. It is one of those schools where you feel like you are getting your money's worth in terms of tuition.


Today I received a rejection letter from Arkansas. It is always disappointing to receive a rejection letter, but I give the school credit for explaining in detail why.

The Univ. of Arkansas uses a predictive index to admit most of their incoming class. The hard line index for Arkansas residents is 200 and for out-of-state residents it is 205.

In case you are wondering, the formula that Arkansas uses for the predictive index is (LSAT score) + (13.4 x UGPA)

The Univ. of Arkansas gave me the option of submitting more information by April 1st in order to be admitted outside of the standard index admission. However, since I have an index score of 198, I don't think it is worthwhile to do so since I am an out-of-state resident.

Hopefully this information helps some people out that are still waiting on their acceptance/denial letter from this school.


Texas Tech finally requested my LSAC report after a few weeks of holding my application. They are my last school that needed to request my report. I am hoping that I start to receive some more acceptance/denial letters in the near future. The hardest part about the whole application process is the waiting in anticipation.


I have decided to transfer my fall 2006 acceptance to Washburn to a January (spring 2006) admission. Based on my letters so far, it looks like tier 3 schools are pretty much in my acceptance range. Also, my parents are moving to Kansas City this summer. I was going to move away from Arizona anyway, so going to Washburn is the most logical choice for me.

There is no sense in waiting 8 more months to do the same thing that I would wind up doing anyway! Maybe I'll get lucky and they will offer me some $$ with my financial aid package, but I am not counting on it at would just be nice to have.


Today I received a letter from UMKC putting me on their waitlist. I have to admit that I am a little surprised by that considering that nearly 80% of their applicants last year got in with my numbers. Maybe they saw something on my application that they didn't like for some reason or possibly a yield protect.


Even though I called UMKC in December to withdraw my application from the waitlist, they e-mailed me to see if I wanted to interview later this month for admissions. When I called to confirm if they made a mistake, they said that they wanted to see if I was still interested. My guess is that their plan to get the better students LSAT/GPA wise didn't go according to plan since they are going to the waitlist in February.


I received a call from the director of admissions at KU to offer me admission. I was actually surprised that I received that offer from them since most schools waitlisted me right off the bat. Unfortunately I had to turn it down since I am already going to school somewhere else.

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Wednesday, October 12 2005 at 08:00 PM

I applied to Arkansas-Little Rock and it took them three weeks to request my report. I called their admissions office five times to make sure they recieved all of the required documents to pull my report and each time I got someone on the phone who had no clue as to what I was talking about, all she would do is take a message and promise a return call. I got tired of calling, so I stopped and a few days later they pulled my report.

Tuesday, August 30 2005 at 08:00 PM

Hey, I was just wondering what kind of envelope your acceptance from Washburn came in. Thanks

Saturday, July 30 2005 at 08:00 PM

Hey, I'd love to chat with ya about Oklahoma. would you email me?

Quinnipiac (response)
Friday, September 09 2005 at 08:00 PM

Dan, I received an e-mail from the school saying that they would waive the application fee if I applied. I'm assuming that they received my information from LSDAS and somehow I met their qualification criteria for a fee waiver.

Sunday, September 25 2005 at 08:00 PM

So sorry about the rejection letter!! ;-( I really like how you explained the index though, I will not bother applying there now. I hope you get into your number one school!!

Friday, November 25 2005 at 07:00 PM

Hey- thanks for the congrats. Speaking from experience with Arkansas' board of admissions- I woulnd't give up on them if you want to go there. They are just going to really want to see that if they accept you, you will attend. They don't like to take out of state people who will not accept their offer. Good luck!

Saturday, July 30 2005 at 08:00 PM

well it wasn't so blatent, i called and asked if i could come visit, and they said your file will be done on weds. You can call on that day and see if you are admitted or not. So i did, and i wasn't. Texas Tech still hasn't requested my transcripts yet. It's been well over a month...If you are applying to Nebraska, you should look at Creighton.

Saturday, July 30 2005 at 08:00 PM

So you made up your mind about schools huh? Even if you get into Kanses or T Tech? I've heard real good things about T Tech. Crazy about UMKC, they must be real numbers driven this year.

Thursday, September 08 2005 at 08:00 PM

I think you will like it there...I did my undergrad at the school. Topeka is not the best, but the school is really nice and everyone is very friendly and laid back. Small classes in the LS will be great for you too. Good luck, and "Go Bods". Take care.

Thursday, September 08 2005 at 08:00 PM

Hi. All my current apps, including TU was for fall. All were FT except for MSU which was PT. Hope you enjoy Washburn, the people are very nice. You might consider Lawrence if your folks are going to be in KC. Lawrence is only 30 min from Topeka via the turnpike. Easy drive and Lawrence is a very cool town. JSIA. Good luck to you.

Thursday, January 05 2006 at 07:00 PM

Hey, If you don't mind me asking... Did OU tell you anything about why... I thought your numbers would give you a great shot. (bottom 25%) please let me know... I am in-state here.

Friday, July 15 2005 at 08:00 PM

Thanks for the info... Best of luck with the 'Waitlists' and I wish you the best... Maybe see you at KU!

Saturday, July 30 2005 at 08:00 PM

That's great that there little plan backfired. I knew that was going to happen to some of these schools. A school like that has no business waitlisting that early. Are you going to interview?

Thursday, January 05 2006 at 07:00 PM

Please email me. I have an urgent question.

Thursday, April 06 2006 at 08:00 PM

Can I ask why you turned KU down?

Good luck
Monday, October 24 2005 at 08:00 PM

Congrats on the KU acceptance; too bad it came a little too late. Washburn's a good school with loyal alumni, though. Do well there and you'll have good prospects in Topeka, Wichita, Lawrence and the Kansas side of KC metro.