lawnecon (2021-2022)

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Application Information

F - Fee Waiver A - Attending W - Withdrawn D - Deferred
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# Law School Status Type $$$ Sent Received Complete Interview Date Decision Updated
#1 George Mason University PT WL, Accepted W Type: ED Sent: 11/20/05 Rec: -- Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: 03/18/06 Upd: 16 years
Villanova University F Accepted A Type: RA Sent: 12/10/05 Rec: -- Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: 03/01/06 Upd: 16 years
Syracuse University Accepted W Type: RA $17,400 Sent: 12/01/05 Rec: -- Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: 01/29/06 Upd: 16 years
University of Richmond Waitlisted W Type: RA Sent: 12/01/05 Rec: -- Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: 03/23/06 Upd: 16 years
Baylor University F Rejected Type: RA Sent: 11/30/05 Rec: -- Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: 02/24/06 Upd: 16 years
Indiana University Bloomington F Rejected Type: RA Sent: 11/30/05 Rec: -- Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: 01/30/06 Upd: 16 years

Applicant Information

  • LSAT: 157
  • LSAT 2: -
  • LSAT 3: -
  • GRE : -
  • LSAC GPA: 3.41
  • Degree GPA: -
  • School Type: US News First Tier
  • Major: Business/Economics

Demographic Information

  • City: -
  • State: Virginia
  • Race: Hispanic
  • Gender: Man
  • Under Represented Minority: Yes
  • Non-Traditional Applicant: Yes
  • Years out of Undergrad: -

Extra Curricular Information

Treasurer for UG Student Gov (Senior Year)
Various UG SG positions (ie-Student Senate Rep)
Various public policy oriented internships
2 years, post BS work experience in legal/economic research

Deans list
Honors Program
Honors Certificate in Economics

I had hoped my decent-average numbers would get a boost from:

- The number of difficult, quantitative courses (many at honors level) on my transcript
-Leadership, internship, and relevant work experience
-My personal, extracurricular interest and knowledge in economics and applied economics (relevant to the law and economics approach) - buttressed by my personal statement
-Letters of rec from my boss, a general counsel and my school's honors director

My PS is pretty good, but it is geared towards GMU's law and econ curriculum - I think it's still relevant at the others schools since it does emphasize my academic interest in certain subject matter - While some of the ideas were the same, my Mason statement was specifically drafted for the school since it's my first choice, and my law and econ background is most relevant to their curriculum

Additional info & updates

REAL Final Update (8/14/06) I just want to update one last time to inform everyone that I was offered admission to Mason off of the waitlist. Unfortunately, I'd moved everything to Philly and prepared to go to Villanova, so I had to decline.

Final Update (8/2/06) - Well, I tried everything, LOR, LOCI (multiple times), meeting with the adcomm director, prayer, and I was even able to make the final group of waitlist applicants, but it seems like the GMU WL is now stationary, and I just can't wait much longer.

For those of you eyeing Mason for the following year, aside from having incredible work experience or a stellar GPA, I don't think any other factors will earn you admission with a sub-160 LSAT score.

Anyway, best of luck to everyone headed to Mason or elsewhere next year as well as to those trying their luck in the 06-07 cycle. I hope this profile will provide some useful information to future applicants.

*Villanova Law Class of '09*

Update: (4/29): I withdrew from Syracuse - They did impress me with their presentation and the money was tempting, but in the end, I think Villanova will offer me more opportunities (and is worth the extra cash).

Update (4/14): I withdrew from U of Richmond today. It's a good school, and I may have attended if I was accepted outright; however, I want to focus all of my attention on George Mason. Plus, I think Villanova would provide more opportunities for me than would Richmond. Best of luck to anyone hoping to get off the wait list at UoR!

Latest break down of schools

George Mason: If they take me, I'll go.

Villanova: I'm 95% certain this where I'll end up if I can't get into George Mason.

Syracuse: I received an extension until May 1 to make a deposit. They have a chance to impress me at the DC reception next week, and it would be a shame to leave that scholarship on the table, but Nova just seems to offer many more opportunities.

Final Record: 2-2-2
Waitlists: George Mason Law (Keep the faith!) and Richmond (withdrawn)

Post Cycle Thoughts: I did okay this cycle; I thought my soft factors and the decline in the overall number of applicants would take me a little further, but so be it.

The Baylor ding and Mason waitlist were expected - I thought I had a better chance at Bloomington and Richmond, but I was pleasantly surprised by the acceptance to Villanova and the scholarship from Syracuse.

Villanova's location, ranking, and post-graduate employment/salary stats make the school the frontrunner right now. However, Syrcause's more modern facilities, law and economics program, and scholarship money are keeping the school in the running. In fact, if it weren't for the climate, it'd probably be my school of choice.

If I'm accepted into Mason, I'll definitely accept the offer. If not, it looks l'll be headed up to Philly.

Anyone have any advice - Particularly regarding the choice between Villanova and Syracuse?

School Updates:

Update (3/23/06) - U of Richmond: Somewhat of a tough break as I end the "season" with a 2-2-2 record thanks to a waitlist decision at UoR. I thought I had a better shot, but in their letter they claim that they haven't seen the same decline in applicants that other school have. Interestingly, their waitlist letter is far more encouraging (in its tone) than my Villanova acceptance was. It makes it sound like the waitlist isn't just a precursor to a future rejection, and that they extended only a limited number of offers of admission in order to ensure a small entering class for the fall. Anyway, I guess there's still a shot.

STILL ALIVE (aka waitlisted) at George Mason! Sure, I would have preferred an acceptance, but I know I'm a borderline call, so it definitely could have worse. I'm going to try my best to finally earn an acceptance. Everyone's prayers and encouragement are greatly appreciated.

Phew, my 2 "game" losing streak comes to an end with an acceptance from Villanova- Praise God. No money unfortunately, but it's a nice confidence boost. Of course, GMU is still number one.

Anyone have any general advice or specific comments about Villanova?

Baylor - As expected, I was denied. I do appreciate the time they (apparently) took to review my application. My numbers weren't very competitive, and if I knew this to begin with I probably would not have applied. I was lured by an (evidently) insipid fee waiver.

Indiana - Bloomington - The quick rejection was somewhat of a surprise since I received a waiver noting that I would be competitive for both admission and a scholarship. The school also does let people in with my numbers and does have a higher acceptance rate than most schools.

I'm not shocked, however, since I am below the medians, and it is a good school. I also only provided two letters of rec when the school suggested three - That's probably why the rejection came so quickly.

Syracuse - This was a safety school, but with the money they're offering me, there's a good chance I'll end up there if Mason doesn't work out. It's a decent school with a strong alumni base, and leaving school with a limited debt does take some of the pressure off in finding a job. [This option is still alive thanks to an extension on the deposit deadline; however, I think Nova and Richmond (should I be admitted) would still have the edge barring a Mason acceptance.

Overall, I'm really pulling/praying for Mason PT, but Syracuse, Richmond, and Villanova are viable options if that doesn't work out

If anyone from the Mason admission committee is viewing this: Please, please, please let me into the part time program - I'll be your best friend! :)

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Congrats
Tuesday, January 03 2006 at 07:00 PM

Syracuse is a great school, I'm jealous of that 17K, it makes attending a lot easier. Good luck with the rest of your choices, maybe we'll be chillin in the tundra together!

good luck
Saturday, September 17 2005 at 08:00 PM

with the GM waitlist!! I'm pulling for you as well!!

GMU
Wednesday, December 07 2005 at 07:00 PM

thanks. i like the look of their program. best of luck to you on the waitlist!

SU
Monday, June 06 2005 at 08:00 PM

any more thoughts on syracuse?

Nova
Sunday, January 22 2006 at 07:00 PM

Difference between Cuse and Nova will be where you want to work afterwards. Since Philly is closer to D.C. area I would go with Nova. Plus, a ton of hot undergrad rich girls who love law sudents.

Nova
Tuesday, December 06 2005 at 07:00 PM

Congratulations on your Villanova acceptance! Hope seems to have paid off for the both of us.

Richmond
Thursday, January 05 2006 at 07:00 PM

Hey congrats on your acceptances! Did Richmond send you a postcard this week from the Pres. of the Student Bar Assoc? Also, we both applied at the same time, any idea when we should expect a decision?

Nova
Wednesday, February 08 2006 at 07:00 PM

yes, I was thrilled to get accepted to Villanova. I am considering it; however, Duq is more on my mind b/c of the full scholarship. I am visiting Nova this Monday. I'll let you know what I think. Have you visited yet?

Syracuse
Sunday, February 12 2006 at 07:00 PM

Hi lawnecon- Have you heard good things about Syracuse (except for the weather)..esp. job placement and employment outside of upstate NY

'nova
Wednesday, February 08 2006 at 07:00 PM

I sat in on Property. The class was pretty casual and not intimidating at all. Prof was down to earth and easy going. The building feels like an old elementary building inside. They desperately need to build a new one. The students are young. If you can handle the old facility, the school's environment seems friendly. But given the money. Let me know if you have any specific questions.

Congrats!
Wednesday, November 30 2005 at 07:00 PM

Congrats on the Mason WL, I hope it pulls through for you! Have you already sent in your continued letter of interest? It looks like we're in the same boat w/ Richmond and Syracuse. It must be nice having all the decisions in, any thoughts so far?

Letters to Schools
Wednesday, November 30 2005 at 07:00 PM

I understand your trouble with the Mason letter. I've been working on a letter for one of my schools for weeks. Things aren't usually this hard to write! I am definitely staying on the Richmond WL. Not settled on Cuse at all. Rutgers is actually pulling ahead right now, but it is tough between the two. I wish I had the money/time to visit! I really like Richmond too, so waiting for them will be tough.

richmond
Tuesday, August 16 2005 at 08:00 PM

Yeah, their letter was slightly encouraging. I'm hoping to be able to go down there and visit soon and check it out. Congrats on the Mason waitlist!

Nova
Sunday, September 04 2005 at 08:00 PM

Yeah I drove through there, then pretty much decided that there are going to be times when I'm at school at night next year, and Camden at night isn't exactly the safest place to be. It isn't like Temple where there's a one block buffer of security, pretty much anyone can walk onto RU-Camden's campus. Instate tuition would've been nice, but I think Nova is the better fit for me.

UR
Tuesday, September 27 2005 at 08:00 PM

Thanks for the insight on the UR waitlists. I know a 1L who was on the waitlist and was admitted two weeks before school started there. Before you go for your deep freeze in upstate New York make sure they havent forgotten about you. This is all for naught, since you will get admitted to Mason. Hopefully your place on the waitlist turns out like their undergraduate NCAA record and you just sail to the top. Keep up the faith.

Syracuse
Friday, October 21 2005 at 08:00 PM

You asked me about why I chose Syracuse. The scholarship offer was really great, and I'm planning on staying in the NY/NE area, so the name recognition will be a bonus as well. Good luck to you in making your decision!

Grats on Villanova
Monday, December 05 2005 at 07:00 PM

Farva from LSD here. I was rooting for you for Mason. Sorry it didn't work out. I agree with you about GMU's admissions policy.