gibbsale (2022-2023)

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Application Information

F - Fee Waiver A - Attending W - Withdrawn D - Deferred
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# Law School Status Type $$$ Sent Received Complete Interview Date Decision Updated
#1 Wayne State University Accepted Type: RA Sent: 01/06/05 Rec: 01/11/05 Comp: 01/26/05 Inter: -- Dec: 03/17/05 Upd: --
#1 University of the Pacific Accepted A Type: RA Sent: -- Rec: -- Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: -- Upd: --
#5 Michigan State College of Law Intend to Apply W Type: RA Sent: 12/30/04 Rec: 12/31/04 Comp: 12/31/04 Inter: -- Dec: 01/19/05 Upd: --
#4 Tulane University Rejected Type: RA Sent: -- Rec: -- Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: 04/18/05 Upd: --
#3 Chicago-Kent College of Law (IIT) Pending D Type: RA Sent: -- Rec: -- Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: -- Upd: --

Applicant Information

  • LSAT: 160
  • LSAT 2: -
  • LSAT 3: -
  • GRE : -
  • LSAC GPA: 3.35
  • Degree GPA: 3.4
  • School Type: Michigan State Unive
  • Major: Political Theory

Demographic Information

  • City: East Lansing
  • State: Michigan
  • Race: Caucasian
  • Gender: Man
  • Non-Traditional Applicant: Yes
  • Years out of Undergrad: -

Extra Curricular Information

ACLU Youth Activist Award, State Board Member, Local Board Member
Environmental NGO Experience
PT Work Experience (15+ hours) since Freshman year

Additional info & updates

25% tuition waiver+laptop at MSU...still pretty, well, bad, considering their ranking

Found out about the Wayne admission by searching the student directory...I have heard that their admission program is not up to speed.

McGeorge (UofP) informed me that "information is on its way" and that they could not disclose anything else over email. I would call, but between the time difference over here and the cost it would be too difficult. I love Thailand, but I clearly should have done this program last year...

Update: Wayne (official), McGeorge acceptance with 12K (renewable by remaining in the top third of the class) and free first year books!

Tulane rejection letter came 4/18/05...they took their damn time!

So the question is...get out of Michigan, pay a little more, or study in MI and do a joint degree (MA Econ + JD) at Wayne...oh, and curse Kent

So...after visiting Wayne, I was able to make a formal decision. Wayne's facilities are actually nicer than those of McGeorge (WSU just completed a new law school building, their gym was incredible, the city of Detroit has a unique feel, etc.). However, ultimately this is also a question of where I want to live, and the answer is not Michigan. I prefer the feel of the west coast, I was impressed by McGeorge's faculty and their programs. While the scholarship was not enough to make McGeorge cheaper than Wayne, it was enough to provide the extra incentive to head west.

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What is up with MSU?
Thursday, September 08 2005 at 08:00 PM

Last year's data places their median grant amount at 22K...which was more than their tuition. Do they not recognize that they are tier 4? Maybe they're offering one hell of a laptop. I think you'll be in at your other schools, and you'll probably get more money from all of them. Best of luck to you. Jeffrey

MSU Is Crazy
Sunday, July 03 2005 at 08:00 PM

...and they seem to think the name change guarantees they will have top applicants who actually go. But my friend, who is going there now, had your stats, kingsnorky, and she had a 75% tuition waiver. You may want to go to Denver; great state, good school, good scholarship offer.

Looking good...
Thursday, September 08 2005 at 08:00 PM

Rumor has it McGeorge is moving into tier 2 this year (unverified rankings posted on XOXO). I'm not sure how the McGeorge money compares with Wayne State's in-state tuition rates, but that's a great offer. Are you expecting any money from Wayne State? Jeffrey

Much more to my liking...
Sunday, July 03 2005 at 08:00 PM

...but I have never been to Sacramento. Luckily, my flight back from Asia stops in SF on the 7th or 8th, so I can go to their visit on the 9th. I doubt Wayne will give me money; I am from the region, we all know it is extremely cheap and while my scores are higher than average they have plenty of apps from people with better scores, as they are a backup. But McGeorge put MSU's offer to shame.

No Wayne Money...
Sunday, July 03 2005 at 08:00 PM

...and at this point, I doubt I will receive any. Actually, it IS slightly surprising, as their LSAT median is 155, but again I'm an in-state student and Wayne is already dirt cheap.

kent v. wayne
Monday, August 15 2005 at 08:00 PM

So assume you get into Kent (which you probably will), do you think it's worth the extra 15K/year to go there over wayne state? I like both of the schools so it really just comes down to whether or not it's worth the money to live in Chicago instead of Detroit. Where do you think you'd live if you went to WSU?

Hard to say...
Sunday, July 03 2005 at 08:00 PM

...because there is a world of difference between living in Chicago and living in Detroit. But assuming you can handle Detroit (and by extension, MI) it is probably to your advantage to stick to Wayne. Both schools are close to equivalent, I think, and cost of living is much lower in the Detroit area. If I go to WSU, I think I will probably want to live within walking distance of the school. That means either university housing (they have new towers up, with the upper two levels reserved for law students) or some of the apartments in that area. I spoke with a woman who goes to Wayne and she said that living near the school was key to her success in her first year.

Thank you!
Thursday, July 28 2005 at 08:00 PM

I just wanted to say "thank you" for your kind words. I had a pretty crappy day today and you made me feel much better. Good luck at the University of the Pacific!

Sunday, September 18 2005 at 08:00 PM

I'm thinking about it a bit. I thought it was my first choice months back and after they interviewed me. After being accepted to the PT program I declined it and I'm actually waitlisted again for FT. I doubt I will get in. Pepperdine is conservative. I'm conservative, but not that consrvative. I have more of a Libertarian view. I sruvived a very conservative high school, then ultraliberal UCLA, I'll just have to bury myself in the books and avoid the politics. Good luck at MeGeorge. It's really come up in the rankings over the years and the people that I know who are there and those that have graduated from there have all done well. I'm confused, though. Are you starting this fall or are you a 2L?

Wednesday, May 03 2006 at 08:00 PM

Hey, thanks for the info... I'm actually on the housing 'waitlist' and the folks in the housing dept. have told me that my chances don't look good...but I've actually managed to contact a couple other McGeorge 1rst years via, and it looks like we may get a house. I'm just excited to get out there.