gigi (2021-2022)

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Application Information

F - Fee Waiver A - Attending W - Withdrawn D - Deferred
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# Law School Status Type $$$ Sent Received Complete Interview Date Decision Updated
St. Mary's University Rejected D Type: RA Sent: 10/10/05 Rec: 10/15/05 Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: -- Upd: 16 years
Southern Methodist University Waitlisted Type: RA Sent: -- Rec: -- Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: 05/01/06 Upd: 16 years
University of Tulsa Accepted W Type: RA Sent: 12/15/05 Rec: 12/17/05 Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: 02/03/06 Upd: 16 years
Texas A&M University School of Law Rejected Type: RA Sent: 02/10/06 Rec: 02/18/06 Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: 03/20/06 Upd: 16 years
University of Oklahoma Rejected Type: RA Sent: 10/12/05 Rec: 10/18/05 Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: 02/25/06 Upd: 16 years

Applicant Information

  • LSAT: 147
  • LSAT 2: -
  • LSAT 3: -
  • GRE : -
  • LSAC GPA: 3.52
  • Degree GPA: 3.52
  • School Type: state university
  • Major: psychology/pre-med

Demographic Information

  • City: norman
  • State: Oklahoma
  • Race: caucasian
  • Gender: Woman
  • Non-Traditional Applicant: Yes
  • Years out of Undergrad: -

Extra Curricular Information

public speaking for civic groups, libraries, companies, womens groups, etc.
volunteer work in the area of physical fitness
fitness expert in Oklahoma, appearing in various media venues

Additional info & updates

Successful career in insurance sales for 10 years, ranked in top 3% nationally in sales volume, earning six-figure income first year in business (straight commission)
Fitness Instructor and Personal Trainer/18 years
12 years ago, I applied to one school (OU) and was accepted. I was unable to attend due to life circumstances, death of mother, divorce, etc. Overcoming difficult life circumstances are included in my personal statement.
I was ill during LSAT, explanation for low lsat score included in addenda.

Acceptance from Tulsa came in large white envelope. A visit to the school left good impression.

Letter from St. Mary's stated that my application was still under consideration and that a decision would be made in March or April.

Rejection from OU was hard to take, having been accepted once before and not having been able to attend. I attribute rejection to low LSAT score, which was far under my potential and far under my original LSAT a few years ago..oh, well..it wasn't meant to be. Tulsa seems to be a pretty good school even if nothing else comes together, so I'm thankful for that acceptance.

After receiving the deferral letter from St. Mary's, I sent in a couple of additional letters of recommendation (one from a professor and one from the mother of an autistic teenaged boy that I work with in the area of fitness) the latter of which I have not sent to other schools because I didn't really feel that it spoke to law school ability, etc. On second thought, however, I decided to go ahead and send it..just a little more insight into who I am as a person. Hey at this point, what do I have to lose?

PS: For all of you out there who scored low on your lsat, just remember how many factors went into your performance on that day. I took it 12 years ago with no study, no stress, no worries and aced it. This time, I studied incessantly, worried, stressed and eventually became ill...flopping the lsat altogether. I had a strong sense of urgency due to passing up the chance for law school once and knowing this was probably my last shot. Wow! What an impact it had on my score. I remember literally sitting there, frozen, looking at the test, knowing the answers and not being able to think straight. It was the weirdest thing. I can only compare it to the winter olympic athletes who repeatedly blew their chances for medals due to stress and/or exhaustion. So, keep in mind that even if you need to retest under more calm conditions...do it. I decided to just go with what I had because I didn't want to make things worse by scoring lower, and I knew that my overall sense of anxiety was persisting. I also didn't want to let my husband down. He has been so supportive and wonderful.

Acceptance from Tulsa has been a relief.

3/20/06: Rejection from Tex Wes. Not disappointed, ready to get on with a decision, just waiting on St. Mary's. I really empathize with those of you who blew the top off the lsat and are having to decide between a large number of schools. That is the only silver lining in having scored low...fewer decisions! yeah! Hey, you've gotta look on the bright side, right?

4/3/06: I visited TU's pre-law day over the weekend and was extremely impressed with the faculty, the alumni, and the students. Tulsa is an outstanding city, and the support system for the legal community is fantastic. Still waiting to hear from St. Mary's, then will make a decision.

4/10/06: This is crazy, but it looks as though I am again faced with the dilemma of law school and family. My husband who has been retired for 11 years gets offered a position that he absolutely cannot turn down. His income doubles, and the position is right here in Edmond, OK, 100 miles away from TU. The option of moving into an apartment there is not good because I have an 11 year old, and commuting back and forth on the weekends would be too demanding for everyone involved. My husband could get an apartment here and come there on weekends, but at his age and with a brand new job, I'm concerned about the strain it would put on our family as a whole. My son is currently in the best school system in the state of Oklahoma. If we were all moving to Tulsa as a family, that would be great, and he could go to Jenks or another good Tulsa area school; but as things are playing out--it's looking pretty gloomy about law school once again. How many people are accepted twice in a lifetime to great law schools and don't go either time? I thought this was my last big chance to make this happen. I'm wondering if it is not in God's will for me to attend law school. As you all know, it is difficult enough for a family to adjust to the rigors of law school without throwing the entire balance completely off center by separating the family at a crucial time in my son's life. If there are any mothers out there who know what I'm talking about, please respond with any feedback you might want to share.

I didn't even put SMU on the board because it was such a long shot, actually haven't even been thinking about it, threw away all the info, then I receive a letter today saying I have been chosen as a waitlist candidate, asking me to send in an acknowledgement that I still want to be considered as a candidate for fall 2006. Of course, my situation is so in the air right now. I had to w/draw from UT. I'm just hanging on to see if my husband's job works out, so as a very narrow chance--I went ahead and sent in the letter...just praying for God's will. Who knows? Who would have thought I would even be considered as a waitlist candidate? The have no order of ranking, selection from the waitlist is random, and it's anyone's guess how this might turn out. We'll see.

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Tulsa
Monday, February 13 2006 at 07:00 PM

is a good city. TU is also a really good school with some good programs. Best of luck!

thanks pogs
Wednesday, March 01 2006 at 07:00 PM

Thanks for the input. I had never heard of it until I started applying to law schools (and I live only 90 minutes away!). It's amazing the schools that pop up out of the woodwork. Does anyone know what their job placement is like in TX?

Hello!
Saturday, February 18 2006 at 07:00 PM

I just wanted to say congrats on your acceptance to Tulsa and good luck on all your other pending applications! I too am waiting on St. Mary's...I hate the waiting game!!! I'm from San Antonio and St. M is my first choice. Which school are you hoping to go to?

st. mary's
Wednesday, March 01 2006 at 07:00 PM

Hello back to you--I left a message on your page. I really love San Antonio and would like to practice in TX...lots of family there; however, I currently live in OK and have close relatives here as well. It's so hard to decide. Tell me what you like about St. Mary's. If I'm accepted, I'll probably make another trip to the school. My first visit was during the summer, and they had a skeleton crew, so I wasn't able to really tour the school. Keep me posted, please, and send any info you have regarding St. Mary's. Thanks..

Re: St. Mary's
Saturday, February 18 2006 at 07:00 PM

Well, the big pull for me to attend St. Mary's is that I have a lot of family ties to the school. My grandfather and uncle both received their JD's from there. I like that it's in my hometown so I would have a lot of family support here. I toured the school last spring but it was during spring break so there was not much going on. I'm actually going to sit in on a class tomorrow so I can really see what it's like. I don't know much about TW. I do know they are much newer then St. Mary's. My choice between the two is mainly because I want to work in San Antonio after school. If I wanted to work in Dallas after school I would probably choose TW. I hope that helped a little! I will let you know how the class goes!

st. mary's
Wednesday, March 01 2006 at 07:00 PM

Hey, I am so sure you will get into St. Mary's, with your stats and with your close relatives having received JD's from there. Thanks for the feedback. Stay in touch.

Hi
Thursday, March 02 2006 at 07:00 PM

Hi gigi, No I haven't made a decision yet. I'm really hoping I get into St. Mary's, but if I don't I will probably go to Univ. of Tulsa. I've read a lot of great things about their school and they seem really eager to help in all of their mailings. If I don't get into St. Mary's I'm planning on visiting the campus just to be certain. But honestly, waiting for a definitive answer from St. Marys is killing me! I must check my mailbox dozens of times each day! Ha. How about you? If will you go to Tulsa because it is in OK? Good Luck, Weston

I will
Monday, January 30 2006 at 07:00 PM

be applying next cycle because I am completing a M.Ed in Administration. Yes, I take a prep course for everything. Best Wishes on getting in to TWU!!

Try
Monday, January 30 2006 at 07:00 PM

taking the powerscore and study the format of the test. That is how I passed the teacher certification exam.

Class Visit
Saturday, February 18 2006 at 07:00 PM

Hello! Well, I went on my visit yesterday...I really enjoyed it. I talked to a very nice 1L and she said that she was happy at STMU. The TW law day is on the 25th I believe. TTYL!

STMU Campus
Saturday, February 18 2006 at 07:00 PM

I really enjoyed walking around on campus and everyone seemed inviting. The ladies in the admission office are very nice and the professor of the class I sat in on walked me to his class. Although not in the best part of town, the campus is very beautiful. The law center is its own little section of the campus, but it's not that far of a walk to get to the other part of it. Overall, great environment.

St. Mary's
Tuesday, December 06 2005 at 07:00 PM

Thanks for the congratulations. Congrats to you to on your acceptance to Tulsa. Have you faxed/mailed a continued interest letter to the Dean of Admissions at St. Mary's yet? If not, I would recommend it. You should state very specific reasons why you want to attend. If you can, visit the school soon. I did not post my numbers because I wish to remain anonymous. Knowing my stats wouldn't help you much anyway because you've already applied. There isn't much you do at this point besides the continued interest letter and/or a visit to signal your desire to attend the school. If you were deferred, you have a shot. If they didn't like you at all, they would've rejected you outright. If you want to see what St. Mary's looks for, you should look at last year's cycle on this site. I doubt their admissions standards have changed much since then. Good Luck.

JMW
deciding where to go
Tuesday, December 06 2005 at 07:00 PM

I haven't made a final decision yet. As you can see, I still have several apps pending. I am leaning towards a particular school right now, which I am going to visit soon. Depending on the outcome of some of my pending apps and/or waitlists, everything could change.

JMW
Tulsa
Tuesday, February 21 2006 at 07:00 PM

My brother is a 2L at Tulsa and he loves it. He went to Undergrad there as well so he has a lot of connections but everything he has told me about the law school has been good. It's not one of my top choices but it would be nice going to school with my bro, the scholarship will help also.

debt
Wednesday, March 01 2006 at 07:00 PM

Thanks JMW for the feedback. You obviously have studied the ins and outs of this process.

nelje feedback
Wednesday, March 01 2006 at 07:00 PM

It's nice to hear good comments about Tulsa. I have learned a little more since I posted the question on your page. I teach fitness classes and personally train people at an upscale country club. One of the women in my class is married to a man who graduated from Tulsa a few years ago. He is a tax lawyer and is practice with a couple of his classmates. He personally billed out over $100,000 to clients last month...makes over a million a year. Not too shabby. She says he loved Tulsa and actually chose it over a well-respected state university. One thing I gleaned from my visit there is that they are extremely welcoming and helpful to prospective students. In fact, I read a couple of days ago that they are ranked in the top 3 nationally for their excellence in student hospitality and support. The "student ambassador" who guided my tour of the school was a non-traditional student, as I am, and gave rave reviews as well. He especially highlighted the Indian Law Certification which allows you to practice in Indian Courts. He said TU is one of only three law schools nationally that offers the certification....Again, any and all info regarding TU, St. Mary's and TX Wesleyan is greatly appreciated from anyone viewing this site...

Non-Trad Students
Tuesday, February 21 2006 at 07:00 PM

I think Princeton review ranked Tulsa in the top five best schools for non-traditional students, you should check on that but I'm almost positive that's the case. And yes, they have been nothing but welcoming and extremely courteous throughout the grueling process that is applying to law school, which is quite refreshing to say the least. Best of luck with your decision.

Non-Trad Students
Tuesday, February 21 2006 at 07:00 PM

I think Princeton review ranked Tulsa in the top five best schools for non-traditional students, you should check on that but I'm almost positive that's the case. And yes, they have been nothing but welcoming and extremely courteous throughout the grueling process that is applying to law school, which is quite refreshing to say the least. Best of luck with your decision.

Just Checking In!
Saturday, February 18 2006 at 07:00 PM

Hey! Just wanted to see how things were going! I guess no news???

thanks, manda
Wednesday, March 01 2006 at 07:00 PM

no news yet from st. mary's or tx wes. maybe this week will be the week to resolve everything...

Words of support
Monday, December 12 2005 at 07:00 PM

Gigi, I just wanted to congratulate you on your acceptance to UT. I, like you, am an older student. I also lost both my parents during the last year and a half. Writing the LSAT is definitely tougher for older students, notwithstanding the additional influence of other life factors that may further impede performance on test day, i.e. family loss etc. Still, you've come through it okay. At least you have the support of a husband, which will serve you well during 1L. Good luck with everything!

Thanks!
Saturday, February 18 2006 at 07:00 PM

Thanks for the encouraging words the other day! I'm sure good news is coming soon!!!

Thanks!
Saturday, February 18 2006 at 07:00 PM

Thanks for the encouraging words the other day! I'm sure good news is coming soon!!!

thanks whitehunter
Wednesday, March 01 2006 at 07:00 PM

Thank you for your kind words. It's nice to know there are others that can relate. Hey, upward and onward! Best wishes to you.

tex wes reject
Wednesday, March 01 2006 at 07:00 PM

After receiving the rejection letter yesterday from tex wes, I actually was not diappointed at all. Two negative factors--low lsat and very late application worked against me. I've been praying to end up right where I'm supposed to be for my legal education. My lsat score has limited acceptances, therefore making choices very clear-cut. I'm waiting for St. Mary's, and the decision will be set in stone. I appreciate all feedback and support from all of you on my page...

Prepping for 1L
Monday, December 12 2005 at 07:00 PM

Gigi, Thank-you for the kind words. Actually, this is a career about-face for me, i.e. I was an ESL teacher in my other life, although my Dad was a provincial court judge for 30 years. No family as of yet, but I've got a great gal waiting for me in another country. Yes, I took a prep course, and it did absolutely *nothing*. It wasn't until I found the Powerscore books that my scores improved (my true lsat was about 4-6 points lower than my practice range). In any case, the important thing is that you're going to law school! There are *lots* of things you can do to prep for 1L (you have a family and time will be scarce). If you're interested, drop me an e-mail (you should see it when you're logged in), and I'll give you a ton of info (I've been on the prep track since Jan). We non-trads have to band together!

Sorry...
Saturday, February 18 2006 at 07:00 PM

Sorry to hear about Wesleyan :-(

BTW
Sunday, February 05 2006 at 07:00 PM

It means: By the way : ) Now you are up to date with the lingo ; )

Green with envy
Sunday, January 15 2006 at 07:00 PM

congrats on TU. Thanks for the comments. i must admit i am the world's most unrecognized funny man. I am jealous you got into to TU but happy for you. I went to high school in Tensil Town and it was a solid time. When you arent cruisin the miracle mile on Memorial St. you can head out with the beatknicks and hipsters on cherry st. or head out passed 101st to broken arrow where the 30'somethings are starting their little fast communities and entering babidom. sweet environment and diversefor any age group. i doubt you have any trouble finding clients for fitness training around town. lots of rich house wives and such who need to get their @ss's in gear. ha. well that is if you plan on doing a little work on the side. i was deferred at TU but had my fathers associate (who is friends with the Dean of the law school) give the ole dean a ring to see if they can make a final decision before april 6th. if they dont i will move to NYC for attendance at CUNY. but if TU accepts i will probably go there...closer to family in fort smith arkansas. stay cool sister!

Just withdrew from St. Mary's
Tuesday, December 06 2005 at 07:00 PM

Maybe a spot will open up for you. Good Luck.

JMW
heads up
Wednesday, March 01 2006 at 07:00 PM

thanks for the heads up. a lot of us will hear this month. i think they are waiting to see who w/draws or skips the seat deposits so that they can pull apps from the "hold" group. let me know where you decide to attend. it looks like you have already been accepted to some good schools..

Still haven't made a final decision
Tuesday, December 06 2005 at 07:00 PM

As you can see I'm on a few waitlists and have a few schools pending. Hopefully I will hear from those soon so I can make the final decision. I think you should try to visit St. Mary's again, if you can, and you don't hear from them in the next week. Good Luck.

JMW
Response
Sunday, February 05 2006 at 07:00 PM

I've decided to attend Duquesne. It's seems to make the most sense when one weighs ranking, affordability, class size, and potential employers. Tulsa I applied to as a backup school but truly had no intentions of going there. I've worked as a paralegal for 3 years, including summers in undergrad, and I've never heard about Tulsa or meet an attorney from Tulsa. St. Mary's was high on my list; good school, good location, good environment. But, in the end, weighing pros and cons, I decided that Duquesne was the best choice for me. While, I decided Duquesne was the best law school for me, anyone else could have chosen Duquesne as the worst choice for them. So best of luck to you. If you would like any more information just let me know.

Tulsa pre-law day
Thursday, September 08 2005 at 08:00 PM

Hi. Yes, I did get to atend the pre-law day at TU. I love that place. Everyone was great, so friendly. I love the library too. I am going to be putting my seat deposit down this week. I don't know about you, but after leaving TU Saturday, I was so excited about getting a shot to go there. Which mock class did you have? I had the legal ethics with Enzorth (sp?). So seemed like a wonderful teacher. Anyway, congrats and good luck to you. See you in August!

No News :-(
Saturday, February 18 2006 at 07:00 PM

Nope, no news as of yet...I'm hoping we will get some soon!

TU
Thursday, September 08 2005 at 08:00 PM

Congrats to you as well. I am sure you will be able to work out something with you husband's work. Do you have any ideas about what type of law you are wanting to practice yet? Regarding the student organizations, TU sure seems to have quite a few. I am looking forward to learning more about some of them. I not sure as of yet which I will want to do, but it is really nice to have so many choices. Looking forward to seeing you on campus. Stay in touch.

Me again
Sunday, January 15 2006 at 07:00 PM

I got into to TU. havent made a final decision yet. I read your reply and must say that i didnt know that about the 1L test and gpa, nor about the top 10% and its correlation with being hired on at large law firms. tells you how much research i have done, kinda embarrassed. My mentor at graduate school always told us that if you do the work and put in the time then the grade will be there. Dont be discouraged or intimidated by the fears that may arise from such competition as there is more than one way to skin a goat, meaning if working in a large law firm is what your intentions are i am sure you will find someway to get it done. I think being out of school for a while puts you at an advantage as you are maybe more conscious of "not knowing it all" which brings about the sort of humility it takes to succeed in a graduate environment.

St. Mary's
Saturday, February 18 2006 at 07:00 PM

I was accepted at STMU today! I'm sure you'll be hearing soon too!

sudden change
Wednesday, March 01 2006 at 07:00 PM

There has been an "out of the clear blue sky" experience in my life. It seems like every time I'm accepted to law school, something takes place to create an obstacle. Last week, Friday, my husband was offered a position in Edmond which will double his income. How do we turn this down? When faced with three years of debt and loss of income compared with doubling our income? TU Law School is 100 miles away from where we live. We talked about options such as my husband getting an apartment here with me coming back on weekends, but my 11 year old would be pulled around a lot, and I think I would be very down, having my family split up like that. My husband has been retired for 11 years and is thoroughly enjoying this new adventure of getting back to business and feeling good about himself again. I'm going to try to see what is in between Tulsa and OKC to determine if any of those small towns are suitable for children in terms of schools, etc. Right now, my son is in a Blue Ribbon school with a stellar reputation nationally for producing record numbers of national merit scholars, high sat scores, etc. It's a challenge to be a wife and mom, want to go to law school and try to do what is best for everyone. I'm praying for wisdom now. My seat deposit is due in two days, so time is running out.

Are you going to attend?
Thursday, September 08 2005 at 08:00 PM

Just wondering with the changes if you were going to attend TU? Hope it works out for you.

what about
Wednesday, December 21 2005 at 07:00 PM

What about Oklahoma City University school of law? Our stats are sort of close, and I got in. Also, they are on a rolling admission, so you might be able to still get a spot. Hopefully that helps! Good luck to you!

p.s.
Wednesday, December 21 2005 at 07:00 PM

As a mom I understand the challenge of "juggling" but my son is only 2, so it's probably tougher for you. I am hoping to finish school before my son realizes I am never around. Let me know how things work out for you. Best wishes!

TU
Thursday, September 08 2005 at 08:00 PM

Just wondering if you thought about going either part-time or asking for a deferal from TU. Maybe they would let you start next year, it might not hurt to ask. What ever you decide, best of luck to you.

Hello
Saturday, February 18 2006 at 07:00 PM

Sorry it took so long to respond. I really hope things work out for you. Let me know what happens! Thanks for your congrats.

Hope it works
Thursday, September 08 2005 at 08:00 PM

If you would, let me know if it works, I am curious. Best of luck.

Postpone
Thursday, September 08 2005 at 08:00 PM

Just wondering if you heard anything back about whether TU will let you postpone or not. Wishing you luck,

Family vs. Law School
Saturday, December 17 2005 at 07:00 PM

Gigi, You are not alone. In the past 3 days, I have been in turmoil over the same exact situation. My husband has a promotion/transfer offer that will match what we both are making now combined in the area I wanted so desperately to be - Charleston, SC. However, it is not my best investment option afterall. So, this leaves me with deciding to relocate with out my family. I my sons like yours have received a great/quality education thus far and with the school that they will be attending in Charleston that trend will continue. Although my children will be well taken care of in my absence for a year by our families, not being there is killing me. However, I know that we cannot pass up both of our opportunities for success. All, I know is that we have already discussed this possibility with our kids well in advance and they know that frequent visits will be in order both ways and their okay with that. Maybe you should try having this conversation with them. I hope that you haven't mailed that withdrawl letter and will try to make your dreams come true. I will pray that some how things will work out for you as I do the same for myself.

My decision
Saturday, December 17 2005 at 07:00 PM

Gigi, Thank you. I thought ver long and hard about your comments here and have made my decision. I have chosen to attend Charleston School of Law in the Fall. My decision was based on several factors, but my family and Charleston's offer in which I cannot refuse or disclose here are the major ones. Be encouraged and I hope that things will work out for you as well.

TU
Thursday, September 08 2005 at 08:00 PM

Gigi, Hi, sorry to hear you won't be joining us in Aug. But, I agree, sometimes we have to look at the bigger picture and decide which path to take. If law school is meant to be, it will happen. In the meantime, I hope everything works out for you. It sounds like things are going well for everyone in your life. That should give you some comfort regarding your choice. Keep my profile handy, and my email. If something changes and you are able to attend TU later, I will be happy to give you any assistance I can. Take care,

Law school comments
Thursday, April 13 2006 at 08:00 PM

Gigi, Just one question: Could you try to find a place to live in between your husband's new work and law school? If the distance was 45 miles instead of 90 miles, it might be possibe for you to attend law school. Just my two cents, I sincerely hope you become a lawyer one day. Art

Thank you - reply
Thursday, April 13 2006 at 08:00 PM

Hi, I see your reasons behind withdrawing from the University of Tulsa. Still, I would strongly advise you to talk to the University of Tulsa. Maybe you can postpone starting classes until next year when things are more settled (special reasons). Just my two cents. Art