hoogguns (2022-2023)

We have a couple of the same schools. Good luck with your applications. I went to undergrad in RI, if you want more info on Roger Williams.

Both Florida Coastal and Phoneix are for profit law schools run by the InfiLaw Corporation. I know they are not the most well respected in the country, but I applied FCSL also. It is complete backup for me, but it is nice to know you have an option. Still it seems like kind of a scary place to attend like they accept you and get all the money they can out of you and don't do much to help the students. I don't know that for a fact, but just knowing they are for profit law schools run by a corporation scares me.

Congrats! Just wondering if you were accepted for the spring or fall. Thanks

Congrants, can I ask you how much scholarship money they gave you? Did they ever request more info from you before your acceptance? Thanks!

First, I love Washburn and don't think I could have picked a better school. Everyone here is so friendly and while we all realize that we want to do better than everyone else, it's not overly competitive. The teachers are all really friendly and helpful as well. As far as housing goes when I looked I was searching for a two bedroom apartment and found many around $600 a month, though many of the students found each other on a discussion board prior to school starting, I'm getting married in January so we wanted the extra space. The scholarship was an added bonus, I never applied for it and had already decided I was going to attend Washburn when I got it, I think they waited until July to even tell me I had one. I'm not sure if you know, but one of the big bonuses for choosing Washburn is you get in state tuition after 6 months of being here. The school also has several programs that are nationally ranked rather high. Our law library, moot court team, and Legal writing program are all ranked within the top 40 in the nation. I know we also have a couple other things ranked well. Our Dean is also the former head of JAG. As for Creighton, that was the only hard choice I had to make not to attend. The school sent me a very nice personalized acceptance letter, but money was the major decisive factor for me. It certainly costs more to attend Creighton and it costs a little more to live there. I didn't personally visit Creighton, but many students have also told me they seemed rather snooty when they did visit. Thus, I am happy with Washburn and truly don't believe I could be receiving a more enriched education anywhere. Oh, and you can pretty much get free lunch every day from some organization or another, just something to keep in mind as a cost savor. Good luck and let me know if you have any other questions.

Hey, I resent that Kansas comment! lol But yeah if I hadn't lived here my entire life I probably wouldn't want to move here either. Washburn is great school with a great reputation just so you know. I would suggest visiting, you might like it.

I don't really have a top choice but I would prefer to go to a local school. Either Oklahoma City, Washburn or UMKC.

Beware of a number of these schools, Florida Coastal, Appalachian, Phoenix, Cooley, New England, Roger Williams, and Thomas Jefferson, are all very poor law schools. Cooley, RW, and Appalachian have all made many so called "shit lists" for law schools and like a previous commenter noted Coastal and Phoenix are for profit and not to be trusted. Degrees from any of these schools will likely result in as much debt as you'd have from any other school with far diminished job possibilities. Many employers won't even look at a resume of a person who attended these schools. You'd be much better served to skip law school all together than to attend these places. However, there are a number of schools you can get into with your numbers that aren't of such law quality (depending on what your interested in). At this level, state schools will almost always be a better choice than private schools. It appears to me that you simply just went to the LSAC website and did this solely by the numbers, I would do a little more research into job prospects, bar passage, etc. As for the schools you already got into, the only one I would even consider is UST-Minneapolis.

I'm interested in Environmental Law as well as public interest and government. The only school I've gotten into so far is Vermont but I'd be happy to go there as it has an excellent environmental law reputation. As for further suggestions, you've got some decent choices left on your list. I'd put Hostra and Gonzaga at the top (in that order), if you manage to get into either I wouldn't even think twice. Hostra may not be the highest ranked school in the NYC area but doing well there can open doors to high paying jobs in Manhattan and the Tri-state area. Franklin Pierce is also alright if your interested in Intellectual Property Law and the quality of living is high in New Hampshire. It's not all about the numbers (tiers, etc), for example New Hampshire only has that one law school, so job prospects will be good in that area when you graduate, and around the country for intellectual property jobs. Some schools that are tier three are barley out of the top one hundred in the first place and have similar job prospects to schools ranked 60-100. You just have to know where to look, pay attention to the market in the area and obviously have a good PS and Resume, etc. Good Luck.

So I feel as though I need to defend my school after an above comment that only certain schools should be considered. Washburn is a tier three, we had a 92% bar passage rate last year, they have more employers come to the school than many tier three's, the midwest is substantially more stable that the more urban areas of the country and it's a lot cheaper to live here, I do agree that Phoenix and Florida Coastal would be a total waste of your money. Washburn also has one of the top ranked law libraries in the country, one of the top legal research programs, one of the top moot court teams and one of the top advocacy programs. I will however admit the school isn't as well known outside of the midwest and if you don't necessarily want to stay in the midwest it may be more difficult to find a job. Whatever you choose though do your research and for the love of god visit the school before you set your decision in stone, law school is all about debt and student loans anyway so just plug down the extra $300 for a plane ticket and go visit. Good luck

I like Creighton, and I like that they offered me some money. I want a school that will travel, eventually, and I feel that Creighton would be a tough choice if I wanted to leave the midwest. I still have much research to do on the schools. What do you think?

Wow, you have tons of acceptances now! Congrats! Any thoughts on a top choice school yet? Or are you still waiting to hear from a particular school?

Honestly I've only just completed my first semester so you're not far behind me. I can tell you that Washburn is constantly sending me e-mails of updates of job listings both for students and attorney's. However, you have to keep in mind that a majority of them are for Kansas and the midwest has not been hit as hard by this economy. The average Washburn grad only makes somewhere around $40K where as somebody that graduates from a school like ASU generally makes $60K. A lot of that is because of the cost of living associated with where those schools are. The biggest thing I would encourage you to remember is that you don't have to be a lawyer with a law degree it's as good as an MBA. And as for job prospects over all it's primarily the economy, my fiance just graduated with her nursing degree and several of her friends that graduated with her cannot find jobs as nurses in the Phoenix area, one guy I know has applied for 40 different positions, so if the economy sucks for nurses it's going to suck for all of us. I know very few people right now that are finding there's much to do with an undergraduate degree, the economy will turn around. Feel free to e-mail me if you need any additional info (or words of encouragement) quickly. Good luck.

You do realize that if you go to Ohio for school that you're going to freeze to death right? I mean I know they talk about "global warming" during the summer, but we're also experiencing record lows in the northern U.S. of which Ohio would be a part.

Congrats on all of the acceptances. I would look at St. Thomas. A good school with a decent undergraduate program can get you far. They are also moving up in the ranks pretty heavily. Also, I was researching and a lot of corporate offices are in Minneapolis so good chance of summer internships and then perhaps jobs anywhere in the country. just some ideas... good luck and again congrats!

A good amount of people have been discussing Ohio on here. I thought I would leave you some thoughts on the Greater Cleveland area......... Cleveland actually is a very intersting city with more culture than other cities (people just do not know about it). In the 1950's it was the fourth largest city in this country. Many famous people made their home here and left their mark. Rockefeller, Firestone, Goodyear built many theaters, museums, and parks. Only New York has more theaters than Cleveland. It has one of the best orchestras in the world......etc. The Cuyahoga ational Valley National Park is the only national park in the midwest. However the city has declined with the rest of the midwest whose economy was based on industry since the 1970's. Akron does not have as much history as Cleveland but has not declined as much either. Winters are cold and snowy but spring summer and fall are nice. I have lived here for 4 years and know a lot about the area so message me if you want an informed opinion.

A good amount of people have been discussing Ohio on here. I thought I would leave you some thoughts on the Greater Cleveland area......... Cleveland is actually a very interesting city with more culture than other cities (people just do not know about it). In the 1950's it was the fourth largest city in this country. Many famous people made their home here and left their mark. Rockefeller, Firestone, Goodyear built many theaters, museums, and parks. Only New York has more theaters than Cleveland. It has one of the best orchestras in the world......etc. The Cuyahoga Valley National Park is the only national park in the midwest. However the city has declined with the rest of the midwest whose economy was based on industry since the 1970's. Akron does not have as much history as Cleveland but has not declined as much either. Winters are cold and snowy but spring summer and fall are nice. I have lived here for 4 years and know a lot about the area so message me if you want an informed opinion.

well I know for me one of the big reasons why I chose Washburn was because current students were really nice to me. As for moving to KS, I just got married and my wife had never lived anywhere but AZ and she is doing ok with it, especially because the people are so nice. Also, FYI I'm going to assume being from Ogden there's a high chance you are Mormon, if you are there is a Mormon student law group which you could join. If you're girlfriend would feel better talking to my wife about it feel free to have her e-mail her, my wife's name is amber and I left her e-mail with this message. Good luck and let me know if you need anything more.

Congrats on all your acceptances. I disagree with Holden C re: Washburn; it is a VERY good school. I do side with him on his other opinions about FL Coast, etc... The only reason I would chose UMKC over Washburn is because I live 20 min away from UMKC and an hour away from Washburn. Otherwise, I'm not sure where I would choose. Here in the Midwest both schools are very highly regarded. UMKC would benefit you over Washburn only if you wanted to stay here in KC. A lot of alum work in the city. And as far as KS being boring...it's not that bad, you'd be in the Capital. And if anything, it's probably better to be in a "boring" environment so you can stay better focused on your studies! Ha. But seriously, KS isn't that bad.

Sorry to hear about UMKC. Doesn't give me much hope!