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Application Information

F - Fee Waiver, A - Attending, W - Withdrawn, D - Deferred
Law School Status Type $$$ Sent Received Complete Decision Updated
Vanderbilt University graph WL, Accepted W 02/11/08 02/15/08 02/15/08 03/31/08 11 years
University of Virginia graph WL, Rejected 02/05/08 02/10/08 02/12/08 04/03/08 11 years
George Washington University graph WL, Accepted W 02/05/08 02/07/08 -- 03/25/08 11 years
Villanova University F graph Accepted W $60,000 02/28/08 -- -- 03/08/08 11 years
George Mason University F graph Accepted W $52,800 02/04/08 02/07/08 02/12/08 03/06/08 11 years
University of Minnesota Twin Cities F graph Accepted $24,000 02/05/08 02/07/08 02/15/08 03/11/08 11 years
University of Southern California graph Rejected 02/01/08 02/15/08 02/27/08 05/05/08 11 years
Duke University graph Rejected W 02/06/08 02/10/08 02/17/08 04/30/08 11 years
University of Pennsylvania graph Rejected W 02/07/08 02/10/08 02/21/08 04/28/08 11 years
Case Western Reserve University F graph Accepted W $101,000 02/01/08 02/08/08 02/14/08 04/21/08 11 years
Columbia University graph Rejected 02/07/08 02/14/08 02/15/08 04/21/08 11 years
University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign F graph Accepted W $60,000 02/04/08 02/10/08 03/03/08 04/18/08 11 years
Cardozo-Yeshiva University F graph Pending W 02/04/08 02/06/08 02/15/08 -- 11 years
Indiana University Bloomington F graph Accepted W $51,000 02/04/08 02/06/08 02/10/08 03/13/08 11 years
University of Alabama F graph Accepted W 02/03/08 02/06/08 02/15/08 03/10/08 11 years
College of William and Mary F graph Accepted A $60,600 02/05/08 02/08/08 02/23/08 02/28/08 11 years
Fordham University graph Accepted W 02/05/08 02/07/08 02/20/08 03/26/08 11 years
Washington and Lee University F graph Accepted W $47,400 02/05/08 02/10/08 02/15/08 03/07/08 11 years
Georgetown University graph Rejected 02/06/08 02/08/08 03/15/08 04/04/08 11 years
Baylor University F graph Accepted W $49,896 02/03/08 02/10/08 02/18/08 03/26/08 11 years
St. John's University F graph Accepted W $90,000 02/07/08 02/10/08 02/16/08 03/10/08 11 years
Chicago-Kent College of Law (IIT) F graph Accepted W $60,000 02/05/08 02/06/08 02/17/08 03/09/08 11 years
Northwestern University graph Rejected 02/06/08 02/08/08 -- 03/25/08 11 years
University of Cincinnati F graph Accepted W $45,000 02/03/08 02/05/08 02/14/08 03/07/08 11 years
Temple University F graph Accepted W $36,000 02/05/08 02/09/08 02/11/08 03/19/08 11 years
University of Michigan Ann Arbor graph Rejected 02/07/08 02/16/08 02/26/08 03/22/08 11 years
University of Miami F graph Accepted W 02/08/08 02/10/08 02/15/08 02/27/08 11 years

Applicant Information

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3.4
3.4
Public Ivy
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Demographic Information

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Male
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Extra Curricular Information

Varsity Football.
Study Abroad 1 year. Hong Kong.
International experience beyond SA.
Phi Alpha Delta, Phi Sigma Mu
Founded and held officer position in many clubs and student government.
Graduate work at Oxford University; British Common Law and EU Law.

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Final Tallys

Total
16-7-3

Fee Waiver Schools
15-0-0

Non-Fee Waiver Schools
1-7-3

ADDITIONAL INFO & UPDATES

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02-29-08- Accepted into Miami through snail mail. First notification I've received. Just glad it's positive!
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03-01-08- Accepted into William and Mary through priority mail! Scholarship included. Yearly tuition will only be $8,600 a year. Very exciting.
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03-03-08- Hold letter from Minnesota. A very humbling experience. Sometimes you need these sort of things to bring you back down to earth.
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03-06-08. Call from George Mason congradulating me on getting in. It was a nice call.
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03-07-08. Emails of acceptance from Cinncinati and W&L! First t25 acceptance
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03-08-08. Acceptance packet from GMU came today as well as acceptance letter from Villanova. Very quick turn around of them
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03-09-08. Email acceptance from Kent. Didn't even know the schools accepted people on Sundays. One big city school down.
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03-10-08. Woke up to find a giant Alabama package on my doorstep. I was a tad worried since it went decision on Thursday and hadn't heard yet. Good way to begin the week! Accepted to St.John's via email.
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03-11-08. Phone call from Minnesota. Moved to the accepted pile. I didn't know how to take the deferally on the 3rd. Seems like sometimes they are actually truely full.
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03-12-08. Scholarship offers from Kent and W&L. No new news though. Got a fee waiver as well from Brooklyn Law School, shame they are about a month late.
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03-13-08. Accepted into Indiana via email.
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03-15-08. The lull in the storm. Glad to receive a scholarship offer from Indiana. But no new news.
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03-17-08. Scholarship info came from St. Johns
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03-19-08. In at Temple via email.
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03-20-08. Cinncinati Scholarship info today. The top14 drought continues......
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03-21-08. Temple scholarship info via mail.
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03-24-08. Dinged at Michigan. C'est la vie. The dominos start falling.
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03-25-08. GW waitlist. Ding Northwestern. The end is near
William and Mary scholarship increased. Someone is earning a lot of points.
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03-26-08. Baylor and Fordham acceptances via email.
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03-31-08. Vandy waitlist via snail mail. hmm...
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04-03-08. UVA waitlist.
Go to W&M. Go directly to W&M. Do not pass go, do not collect $200,000.
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04-04-08. GULC rejection.
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04-13-08. Withdrew from a ton of schools
Future Destination: W&M
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04-18-08. Illinois acceptance with scholarship.
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04-21-08. Columbia rejection via email.
And the dream dies. Farewell Columbia and thanks for the rejection. Maybe you can reject me again another few years down the line when I'm looking at LLM or MBA programs.
Nothing amazing happens here.
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04-22-08. Case Western acceptance via email/phone.
Distinguished Scholar Award from Case Western.
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04-23-08. GMU scholarship via email.
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05-05-08. USC ding.
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05-14-08. Minnesota Scholarship offer.
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05-23-08- Villanova Scholarship

Visitor Comments

  • Good luck!
  • Thursday, February 28 2008 at 08:58 PM

Thanks, GL to you too. I'm afraid applying late hurts me as well, but I committed to the cycle late and can't afford to waste a year either. Are you a VA resident, btw? UVa could be a great shot if so!

- gengar
  • Thanks!
  • Friday, February 29 2008 at 07:38 AM

Good luck with your cycle! With your numbers I don't see you having much trouble :) What are your first choices?

- hbb123
  • i hope so
  • Tuesday, March 04 2008 at 03:41 PM

thanks, i certainly hope so! congrats on william & mary! i'm anxiously awaiting a response from them.

- lsnhut7083
  • YAY W&M!
  • Tuesday, March 04 2008 at 10:33 PM

Super congrats on W&M. I applied late too - so who knows! Have to say the accept to WM makes me a happy camper. Thanks for your comment too. I'll keep an eye out. Glad to see someone else who went as application crazy as I did.

- encarnadine
  • Good Luck
  • Thursday, March 06 2008 at 11:57 AM

Congrats on the $$ from W&M, and good luck with the rest of the cycle.

- wzmundy
  • Thanks!
  • Friday, March 07 2008 at 09:55 PM

Thanks for the encouragement and congrats on your acceptances thus far! Nice $$ from W&M. Good luck and I hope you get into your top pick.

- cjcleave
  • thanks!
  • Sunday, March 09 2008 at 06:37 AM

and congrats on your acceptances so far. looks like you have a lot more coming! :) good luck!

- qoftheu
  • Congrats
  • Monday, March 10 2008 at 12:11 PM

On bama

- logged user
  • That was me
  • Monday, March 10 2008 at 05:43 PM

That last comment was me. Congrats.

- folkysaint
  • Stuff
  • Monday, March 10 2008 at 07:30 PM

Congrats on Alabama...I'm surprised they didn't offer any money (or is that info on the way?). What's realistically your top choice? I could see you getting into USC. Best of luck this cycle, and thanks for droppin' by a while back.

- Blackjack19
  • Congrats
  • Tuesday, March 11 2008 at 03:33 PM

Nice work on U of M. Hopefully I'll see you there next fall.

- stinson327
  • RE: Penn
  • Wednesday, March 12 2008 at 02:39 PM

Hey, thank you. nope, no special connections at Penn... honestly Im still amazed and thank god that I got in. I dont know if i did anything particularly special in terms of my application... the only advice I can think of is is to make sure that you write a why Penn essay, they're pretty big on that. HTH and good luck with all your remaining schools!

- suicidallawyer
  • thx
  • Friday, March 14 2008 at 10:08 AM

many thanks. you should be money too. i don't think the late apps hurt too much as long as the submit date doesn't extend beyond march or so (with ASW's, tuition approaching, etc). even so, your #'s would be strong relative to other WL'ers

- rezipsa
  • Mich
  • Saturday, March 15 2008 at 05:08 PM

No connection - just sent in extra material explaining my not so amazing LSAT. GMU seems to be more interested in numbers than the story, so I think that explains my rejection. You're doing so well! It must feel great to get so much good news so quickly!

- beanie13
  • Congrats!
  • Saturday, March 15 2008 at 10:09 PM

Congrats on all of your acceptances! Do you have any schools that you are leaning towards right now?

- lookingforanswers
  • Hey!
  • Sunday, March 16 2008 at 11:46 AM

I still really like Wash U, Cornell, and UT Austin, but Indiana just moved to the top of my list with their scholarship offer! Are you still considering Indiana?

- lookingforanswers
  • And here I thought...
  • Sunday, March 16 2008 at 12:40 PM

...that *I* applied to a lot of schools! You\'ve got me beat. Congrats on all the success so far.

- MissVirginia
  • Thanks!
  • Sunday, March 16 2008 at 08:05 PM

And good luck with the rest of your cycle as well!!

- lookingforanswers
  • Congrats!
  • Monday, March 17 2008 at 04:37 PM

-On number of applications -- that must have been a lot of work! P.S. Any scholarship offers from Miami?

- kroger
  • Thanks
  • Tuesday, March 18 2008 at 12:27 PM

For your post. I'm honestly not that interested in going to DC. Emory was my top choice. I only applied to places I was interested in attending - I'd rather go to Miami and be happy than go to a 20-40 ranked school someplace I would hate. I realize that may seem sort of shallow, but from personal experience I just do better when I'm happy.

- etmerian
  • Thanks!
  • Tuesday, March 18 2008 at 06:16 PM

Best of luck to you as well! We're pretty much in the same boat with late apps and numbers. Keeping my fingers crossed for us both, especially at the reach schools!

- hopefulinvirginia
  • re: thanks
  • Wednesday, March 19 2008 at 08:39 AM

hahaha will do! anything for a fellow LSDer rite!

- suicidallawyer
  • Re: Miami
  • Saturday, March 22 2008 at 08:52 PM

Thanks for the update. I'm sure that means I'll be withdrawing myself.

- kroger
  • Michigan
  • Monday, March 24 2008 at 02:56 PM

Alas, we had the same fate on the same day! Wonder if that will happen at UVA and others. Where are you leaning? Will you have to make a deposit anywhere by April 1?

- hopefulinvirginia
  • Leaning
  • Monday, March 24 2008 at 04:56 PM

In exactly the same boat - W&M or W&L (pending other decisions). Completely agree on the new third year program at W&L and feeling a bit put off by the April 1st deadline to keep the scholarship. W&M also has course offerings and additional programs that better suit my interests. Not to mention the difference in cost! All that said, I was leaning towards W&L and can't make admit weekend at either school, so finding it difficult to make a decision. Still keeping my fingers crossed for another option!

- NAME REQUIRED
  • Leaning
  • Monday, March 24 2008 at 04:57 PM

In exactly the same boat - W&M or W&L (pending other decisions). Completely agree on the new third year program at W&L and feeling a bit put off by the April 1st deadline to keep the scholarship. W&M also has course offerings and additional programs that better suit my interests. Not to mention the difference in cost! All that said, I was leaning towards W&L and can't make admit weekend at either school, so finding it difficult to make a decision. Still keeping my fingers crossed for another option!

- HopefulInVirginia
  • Suggestion
  • Tuesday, March 25 2008 at 07:28 PM

Very interesting. Do you mind my asking what you said to W&M to make that happen? I'm not sure how to go about that type of request. Sorry to see the NW decision - did you do an interview? Plenty of other options left!

- hopefulinvirginia
  • Thanks
  • Wednesday, March 26 2008 at 12:16 PM

That's very helpful - thank you! I've heard USC's office is extremely friendly, which is useful since they don't have an app status tracker. Too bad about NU, but as you pointed out, being straight out of UG is a disadvantage with them. Still, many good options on your plate and hopefully more to come!

- hopefulinvirginia
  • W&M $
  • Saturday, March 29 2008 at 03:29 PM

Congrats on the scholarship! Did you attend the ASW today? How did you get the increase?

- msjb95
  • W&M
  • Sunday, March 30 2008 at 10:17 AM

Yes, I was there. I was also very impressed! I sent an e-mail to Dean Shealy two weeks ago asking to be considered for money...but haven't received a response. Wondering if I should pick up the phone and call her.

- msjb95
  • Thanks!
  • Monday, March 31 2008 at 08:57 PM

Thank you so much! I did send LOCI and am flying out to WM from Seattle for an interview. Taking bull by the horns - lol.

- encarnadine
  • Thanks!
  • Tuesday, April 01 2008 at 04:06 AM

I think it's only because you aimed a bit higher than me... and I'm still pending at two so it's a little early to say that haha.

- limegreen
  • UVA
  • Thursday, April 03 2008 at 10:45 AM

Sorry to see it - will you stay on the WL? How'd you find out so quickly? I went to decision last Friday and still haven't received a letter. Thanks for the other advice. I did not deposit at W&L. If I lose the scholarship while deciding, so be it. How was W&M ASW? They are really moving up on my list. Hang in there!

- hopefulinvirginia
  • UVA
  • Friday, April 04 2008 at 01:31 PM

Thanks, that's the plan (interview and hope). Have you followed up with W&L? They pushed my deposit deadline (with scholarship) back to April 16 - nice to have an extra two weeks! I'm finally visiting this weekend and trying to find a time to visit W&M. Really need to make a decision between those two! Will you attend W&M over Minnesota? How would a USC admission factor in for you? The worst part of applying so late is the extended waiting game and constant deposit deadlines!

- hopefulinvirginia
  • Re: Plans
  • Sunday, April 06 2008 at 07:40 PM

Feeling the same way about USC - what a wild card that would be! Giving the W&L visit a little time to sink in. Have had great contact with W&M students and alumni and leaning the same way as you - a positive visit next weekend will seal the deal. Haven't paid any attention to Michigan since being cut loose (trying not to make myself too crazy via LSN, though it's tough!). Thought I'd be a great fit at Michigan, but it appears they felt differently. Oh well - can't lose sleep over it! The UVA decision is a nice consolation (though I'm trying not to get my hopes up too much). Sorry to see the G'town decision - did you apply full time only?

- hopefulinvirginia
  • Re: GULC
  • Thursday, April 10 2008 at 07:12 PM

Applied both full and part time at GULC, thinking I might continue working or use it as a way into a top 14 if no others work out. Definitely changed my mind on that now, though suspecting a part time decision is coming my way. Thanks for the congrats re: UVA. I was pleasantly surprised by the priority status, but trying to keep reasonable expectations. Getting very anxious for other decisions!

- hopefulinvirginia
  • Hey alltimelow!
  • Sunday, April 13 2008 at 12:31 PM

Hope you're doing well! Have you made a decision yet on where you'll be this fall?

- lookingforanswers
  • Decision
  • Monday, April 14 2008 at 09:37 AM

Congrats on making your decision! Based on visits and contacts, I'm holding on to W&M as well. Genuinely think W&M will be a good fit and realizing that if it's not top-14, it's probably not worth $60k/year. If only those top-14 schools would get back to us!

- hopefulinvirginia
  • A~
  • Tuesday, April 15 2008 at 04:35 PM

Congrats on making a decision! I'm on the waitlist at W&M....maybe I'll see you there =)

- beanie13
  • Congrats!...
  • Tuesday, April 15 2008 at 05:12 PM

on your decision! I guess I will be seeing you there. Are you doing the GradPlex?

- msjb95
  • Fordham
  • Wednesday, April 16 2008 at 04:24 AM

I am not really excited about the GradPlex, I have been out of dorm type living for over a year now. There seems to be alot of great apartments close by. As for Fordham... not really. I didn\'t want to be in NY city, and the no $ thing would be rough.

- msjb95
  • Re: Decision
  • Wednesday, April 16 2008 at 08:36 AM

I really admire your attitude/approach! As hopeful as I remain that one or more of my pending schools will work out, I'm resigned to the fact that they're all long shots this late in the cycle. Perhaps we'll be classmates this fall at W&M!

- hopefulinvirginia
  • Thanks!
  • Wednesday, April 16 2008 at 12:29 PM

Where were you thinking , as far as an apartment? I've scoped out a few places on the web. It just seems to make more sense than the GradPlex. It kind of expensive for a dorm room. I figure if I take on roommate it would cost about the same for a much nicer place.

- msjb95
  • They let me in!
  • Thursday, April 17 2008 at 01:16 AM

LOL - You said to tell you. Hahaha. Guess we are going to be classmates! I just got back from WM, it was gorgeous. Have you been there yet?

- encarnadine
  • thanks
  • Thursday, April 17 2008 at 08:38 PM

thanks, i'm really excited. i've known that i want to be back in nyc and that's where i want to work, so fordham is pretty ideal. good choice with w&m. that is a nice scholarship!

- lsnhut7083
  • thanks
  • Sunday, April 20 2008 at 11:52 PM

Haha I know about the miracle thing, but it looks like you've had a very nice cycle yourself, you should be very proud!

- SevenTimes22
  • Withdraws
  • Monday, April 21 2008 at 02:38 PM

So you've withdrawn from Penn and Duke? There is something to be said for ending the waiting game (other than USC). I had the same fate at Vandy - is it me, or did they waitlist TONS of people this year? C'est la vie.

- hopefulinvirginia
  • Withdraws
  • Monday, April 21 2008 at 02:42 PM

So you've withdrawn from Penn and Duke? There is something to be said for ending the waiting game (other than USC). I had the same fate at Vandy - is it me, or did they waitlist TONS of people this year? C'est la vie.

- hopefulinvirginia
  • THANKS
  • Monday, April 21 2008 at 05:41 PM

I am always impressed by people like you who have great LSAT scores and take the time to encourage those of us who don't. For some, a very daunting process becomes that much more discouraging without support. Thanks for your positive feedback and kind thoughts. :)

- crissylawyer2be
  • Cycle
  • Tuesday, April 22 2008 at 08:35 AM

Haha yeah, we are practically cycle twins! Did the UVA interview yesterday and now want it more badly than ever! Time will tell... Why did you withdraw from Duke and Penn? Just ready to be done with it?

- hopefulinvirginia
  • 40%
  • Thursday, April 24 2008 at 07:46 AM

I don;t know where you got your stat but the correlation between lsat and predictive success alone is much higher than 40%. <a href="http://www.lsacnet.org/research/Predictive-Validity-LSAT-National-Summary-2003-2004-Correlation-Studies.pdf" title="http://www.lsacnet.org/research/Predictive-Validity-LSAT-National-Summary-2003-2004-Correlation-Studies.pdf" class="data">http://www.lsacnet.org/research/Predictive-Validity-LSAT-National-Summary-2003-2004-Correlation-Studies.pdf</a>

- etaomega14
  • Anon. Posters Are Funny
  • Thursday, April 24 2008 at 08:09 AM

From your own report ".48 for 2003 and .47 for 2004." The considering the margin of error accounting for by the test, I feel rather safe saying there's a 40% correlation. Considering it's done by large percentiles it's even less refined. It's not an exact science, but the best tool available at the moment . It's also making the rather inane assumption that all UG instutitons and majors are equal.

- alltimelow
  • Thanks!
  • Sunday, April 27 2008 at 02:48 PM

At some places, it's obvious my late applications hurt (WUSTL's "overcommitted" hold list is case in point). At the same time, higher-ranked schools accepting me are LSAT-biased (Illinois, Minn), and lower-ranked schools WL/rejecting me did the same to some applicants with similar GPA/LSAT. You're going to wait out UVA, right? ;)

- gengar
  • decision
  • Tuesday, April 29 2008 at 09:06 PM

Yeah, no way I can make a decision at this point. My priority is pretty much T14 > USC/UCLA (close to home - prefer USC based on visit but like both) > everything else, which I'd decide based on geography and where I want to be longer-term. Anyway, thanks for the good luck wishes - just day by day for me. Hope you get off that UVA waitlist, I really wanted to go myself!

- gengar
  • the LSAT
  • Friday, May 02 2008 at 11:21 AM

I don't think there is much of a correlation between a person's LSAT score and their law school performance. The LSAT is a learned test. If there was such a correlation than there would not be classes on how to improve a person's score.

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