blar (2018-2019)

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Application Information

F - Fee Waiver, A - Attending, W - Withdrawn, D - Deferred
# Law School Status Type $$$ Sent Received Complete Decision Updated
24 University of Nevada Las Vegas graph Waitlisted W 10/18/07 10/23/07 11/05/07 04/19/08 11 years
41 University of San Diego graph Accepted W 10/06/07 10/08/07 10/17/07 04/07/08 11 years
71 University of Miami F graph Accepted A 10/11/07 10/12/07 -- 12/24/07 11 years
96 Florida International University graph Accepted W 10/07/07 10/08/07 10/28/07 02/16/08 11 years
33 Loyola Law School graph Waitlisted W 10/28/07 11/06/07 11/28/07 03/29/08 11 years
64 Stetson University graph Accepted W 10/06/07 10/06/07 -- 01/26/08 11 years
65 Southwestern University School of Law graph Accepted W 10/21/07 10/22/07 -- 01/22/08 11 years
58 DePaul University F graph Accepted W 11/26/07 -- -- 12/18/07 11 years
71 St. Louis University F graph Accepted W 10/07/07 10/12/07 11/02/07 01/07/08 11 years
17 Arizona State University graph Rejected 10/06/07 10/06/07 10/17/07 02/09/08 11 years
45 Florida State University graph Pending D 10/07/07 10/09/07 -- -- 12 years
15 Ohio State University graph Rejected 11/01/07 11/09/07 -- 01/07/08 12 years
96 Florida Coastal School of Law F graph Accepted W $30,000 10/21/07 10/30/07 11/05/07 11/15/07 12 years

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Microsoft Young Developers
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ADDITIONAL INFO & UPDATES

And that finally concludes my cycle. My chiasu.com numbers were surprisingly accurate so apparently that may be a decent system for future applicants to reference.

Spent 2 years working in the IT sector after undergrad. Moved to Florida in September 2006 and am now looking to practice law in Southern/Central Florida.

Miami is my #1 choice but I would seriously consider Florida International due to the incredibly cheap in-state tuition.

8/24/2007 - Finished re-writing my personal statement after putting 1st draft through the 2 week test. Edited out quite a bit of cheese and I am now happy with the finished product.

8/27/2007 - Mailed LSAC LOR forms to 2 academic recommenders. Hopefully they will get them mailed to LSAC in September! Started schmoozing my employer for a professional LOR.

10/06/2007 - Sent out all the simple applications. Finishing essays for more applications tomorrow, printing out signed forms to send on Monday. Fun!

10/11/2007 - Sent out my Miami app, finally. I was surprised to find they gave me a fee waiver!

10/28/2007 - Decided to apply almost everywhere in LA. Also sent an app out to OSU as another reach app.

11/15/2007 - Accepted at FCSL w/ scholarship. Well at least I know I can go to law school.

11/26/2007 - Threw Chicago into the mix - app sent to DePaul

11/27/2007 - Called Miami... I'm complete but haven't gotten to committee yet? Sounds like I'll be getting a rejection from them eventually.

12/18/2007 - In at Depaul! Came in a big white envelope that read "Welcome to Depaul" I needed a decent acceptance like this one :)

12/24/2007 - Finally got my acceptance to Miami! Best Christmas present ever

01/07/2008 - Dinged at Ohio State and accepted to St. Louis.

01/26/2008 - Acceptances to Stetson and Southwestern. Will be withdrawing if I do not receive scholarship offers before April. Seat deposits are way too expensive to maybe attend.

02/09/2008 - Rejection from ASU in a small, white envelope. I'm now pretty much 90% sure I will be going to Miami.

04/07/2008 - Apparently I applied to USD PT and was waitlisted for the day section. Obviously the west coast hates me :)

Visitor Comments

  • hey,
  • Friday, July 27 2007 at 06:20 AM

we have similar gpa. are you going to retake your lsat? I'll be looking closely to your cycle :) goo dluck

- selina19
  • hi
  • Saturday, July 28 2007 at 11:28 AM

170's?maybe not. I just starting studying for this stupid lsat. higher 160 is good for me. Althought to get into the schools I have added, I will need 170's. But not sure. did lsdas drop down your gpa?

- selina19
  • GPA
  • Saturday, August 04 2007 at 09:24 AM

We have a similar GPA as well. How is your 'grade trend'?

- sirisaacnewton
  • addendum
  • Monday, August 06 2007 at 04:48 PM

Word up on the addendum. I have one myself. Its the only way to go. (for us with relatively low GPA).

- sirisaacnewton
  • addendum again
  • Tuesday, August 14 2007 at 08:51 AM

We have similar #s. I'm looking all over, geographically speaking. What do you plan to put in your addendum?

- lauren1855
  • addendum
  • Wednesday, August 15 2007 at 11:40 AM

I am writing about my full time work experience during college and how it hindered my performance. It's not going to rock anyone's world, but it's honest.

- delanie
  • FIU v Miami
  • Friday, August 24 2007 at 06:08 PM

Personally, I think you would be better off w/ FIU than Miami. FIU is already at the top of tier 3, they have a higher bar pass rate than Miami by a lot, the class size is smaller, the faculty is more renowned, they will be ahead of Miami in ranking within 5 years, the law school is brand new, the tuition is cheaper by $25,000 a year, U. Miami has no room to grow, and in fact will sink in prestige now that Miami has a public law school-FIU, whereas FIU has no where else to go but up (I see FIU as the number one school in florida within ten years). Who wants to go to gainesville when they can live in Miami? That's a no brainer. I've talked to people at FIU who have already made the bold move to go to FIU over UF. It's a only a matter of time. BY the way FIU has the lowest acceptance rate out of all the schools in florida.

- FIU IS 4 REAL
  • RE: FIU v Miami
  • Sunday, August 26 2007 at 07:02 PM

Do you currently attend FIU or know of someone who does? I would like more information.

- blar
  • yes
  • Monday, August 27 2007 at 11:35 PM

I attend FIU law school. What were you curious about?

- FIU
  • Miami
  • Tuesday, August 28 2007 at 09:51 PM

I saw some of your other visitor comments and first of all I believe it will take more time than 5 years for FIU to pass Miami in rankings. Not saying it won't happen eventually but the alumni base will have to decline before it happens. That being said, If I don't get into UF or any other school on my list besides FSU, I probably would go to Miami because based on the market in Miami and it being the best law school in Miami right now, it would give me the best job opportunities. Honestly I really would hate to pay that amount of money for a tier 2 school though.

- FutureLLP
  • Career Services
  • Wednesday, August 29 2007 at 06:02 AM

I think you'll find Miami's career services office be better than FSU and others in Miami. And, in the end, that gives you a lot more opportunities to secure employment post graduation...which is why we're paying all this money in the first place, Right?

- bonafortunaomnibus
  • Miami
  • Wednesday, August 29 2007 at 06:37 PM

Very true. The only downside to the U is thatfrom what I hear, the degree does not have portability and you will be stuck in Miami for life. Of course if thats what you want then it is a positive. BTW, I am not saying other schools in FL are more or less portable, we could debate that forever. The truth is that all schools in FL are basically regional.

- FutureLLP
  • disagree
  • Thursday, August 30 2007 at 01:57 PM

I don't agree that going to a school which is roughly 80th compared to a school which is low 100's, bordering on being T2, and will be T2 by the time you graduate....will present you with much better job opportunity. If you look at the average salary of people graduating both schools (FIU v. Miami) they are almost identical with almost the identical amount of people employed after graduation. Not to mention, as I stated in a previous post, I believe it'll be higher ranked very shortly. Is $75,000 extra in student loans for a school that might not be as good, really worth it ? And, as i said, you could wind up going to the school that is actually less prestigious by the time you graduate. Half the people i've talked to about it claim they chose FIU over Miami. It's shifting VERY QUICKLY. Look at how many spots Miami lost on the rankings this last go around. Be careful with that choice. I think both schools are good, but I really think FIU is the far better decision.

- Blah
  • Miami
  • Thursday, August 30 2007 at 04:08 PM

You make good points, and I certainly hope that everyone that tells you that is not lying because they are embarrased they didn't get into Miami but we will never know that. The stats you posted also could be misleading for either school because we really don't know how much manipulation of the numbers is going on. Unfortunately, nobody knows the future or can project law school rankings years from now. While every factor you pointed out might eventually result in FIU surpassing Miami and every other law school in Florida, the same logic can be used to say it will be in the top 25 in "just a couple of years". If you want to go public and do not want to practise biglaw and cannot get into UF or FSU, your best option is probably FIU.

- FutureLLP
  • hmmm
  • Thursday, August 30 2007 at 07:36 PM

why would someone be embarrassed to choose to go to a more selective school? <a href="http://www.prelawhandbook.com/florida_law_schools" title="http://www.prelawhandbook.com/florida_law_schools" class="data">http://www.prelawhandbook.com/florida_law_schools</a> Miami accepted half the people that applied, FIU accepted only 20%. Everyone knows FIU is the school to be at in Southern Florida. Can you name me a public school that is in a MAJOR city as big as Miami and isn't in the top 50. It's going to happen, there is no speculation. It will happen.

- blah
  • FIU
  • Friday, August 31 2007 at 06:17 AM

I don't think I care too much about selectivity but I have been hearing quite a lot of praise for FIU. Either good things are going on or they have one hell of a PR department. :) How are the career prospects and how important is it going to be to have a firm grasp on Spanish?

- blar
  • FIU
  • Friday, August 31 2007 at 06:17 AM

I can only speculate as to why the acceptance rate is lower but I would think it has something to do with the fact more people have lower LSAT scores in the range in caters to and therefore they get more below their 25% because applicants think they have a chance to get accepted because of their low 24-75. Based on numbers alone, Miami's LSAT range is higher, in fact their 25 is the same as FIU's 75. This is stupid though, we can argue semantics and numbers all day trying to put them in our favor. If you have already decided on FIU, great, good for you. I hope they rise in the rankings because it would be nice to have a public school is SFla. The fact is though this won't happen as long as they keep admitting people with LSAT scores in their current range and ALumni is not built overnight. It takes years and years. Law school is a big enough gamble without trying to project future rankings. I am not saying Miami is the best school in the country and it is stupid to go anywhere else. I am just looking at the stats now. And btw, there are public schools in cities as big as miami that are outside of the top 50. Quite a few acctually so that is not the only thing that matters.

- FutureLLP
  • Cycle
  • Friday, August 31 2007 at 07:34 AM

Yeah, it's pretty scary how fast it's coming up, especially with classes going full tilt. Good luck man

- FutureLLP
  • blah
  • Friday, August 31 2007 at 02:30 PM

yeah that's probably a factor....but I think the real factor is the size of the classes. Miami has roughly 500 1l full time students, while fiu barely has 100 1l students. Smaller classes and less attrition from what I hear. Spanish isn\'t a concern at all....You need to speak english to be at any law school period. And two, if you look at the minority index it\'s pretty close to .50. which is ideal. The breakdown at fiu is about 40% spanish, 40% white, 20% other, which seems to be a good sampling of the population. Future LLP...People get so frustrated talking about stuff and making points pro or con.... This is basically how law school is. There is no right or wrong answer EVER. You get called on in front of 70 people on a routine basis and the teacher tries to embarrass you in front of the class....and basically no matter what you say that\'s backed up by fact, it can be disproven by looking at things in a different light. Get used to it.

- blah
  • Law School
  • Wednesday, September 05 2007 at 07:25 PM

You know I can't let that comment go by. I can't believe you would actually try and tutor me on the "law school experience". You posted on my board first asking if I thought Miami was worth the money. I explained why I thought it was and you got snippety when the answer wasn't what you liked and/or fit your opinion of the situation. The fact is that I really don't care where you go to school or if you listen to my argument or not. I have no vested interest in any decision you make. I was simply trying to explain my point of view. I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you took my indifference to your choice to mean that I was getting upset. The only thing that annoyed me with every one of your responces was that you were not open to facts. If you want to play the "this is how it is going to be in law school" game just attempt to think before opening your mouth and lecturing other people because if you didn't notice; this board isn't law school, there are no grades here and I am not trying to persuade you of anything just telling my opinion.

- FutureLLP
  • LOL
  • Thursday, September 06 2007 at 04:47 AM

My mistake man, I didn't even notice that it was blah instead of blar. Sorry for being rash. Well, I guess I deserve this, "FutureLLP, in lawschool it is very important to pay attention to detail because law is a very stressful field."

- FutureLLP
  • san diego
  • Wednesday, October 24 2007 at 07:43 AM

Did you get an email or something from san diego letting you know that your app. was complete??

- hnschmidt84
  • Homebrew
  • Saturday, November 24 2007 at 06:33 PM

Similar numbers, wish you the best. Haha, you putting homebrew club on your app?

- condor13
  • Miami
  • Tuesday, December 11 2007 at 09:49 AM

Strange that your app (and presumably mine) haven't gone to committee yet (or at least had not a couple weeks ago). We applied earlier than many people with 155/6 LSAT scores and median GPA's that have already been accepted. I think we'll both probably get in eventually.

- hurley311
  • Congrats on Miami
  • Monday, December 24 2007 at 05:34 PM

Getting into your top school must be a great Christmas present. I hope you are right.

- hurley311
  • Miami
  • Wednesday, December 26 2007 at 12:33 PM

I got my acceptance letter today as well!!! They probably sent our letters out at the same time. I'll definitely be down there for their admitted students day.

- hurley311
  • Thanks!
  • Saturday, January 05 2008 at 12:22 PM

You're doing pretty well yourself good luck on the rest of the cycle!

- jalex519
  • OSU
  • Tuesday, January 08 2008 at 04:24 AM

man, I don't really know what happened! I guess I can chalk it up to yield protection. It is so weird, because they seemed to want me there, they gave me a fee waiver and everything!!!

- gclemen1
  • Thanks
  • Saturday, January 12 2008 at 06:50 AM

You left a comment on my page about my chiashu numbers. I agree, they are wayyyyy off. I only listed them because I thought it was downright funny how far off they were for me. I don't think that site is very accurate for splitters or even quasi-splitters like me. Anyway...best of luck this cycle. It looks like you're already having a pretty good run.

- dotlyn
  • Sticker Price
  • Tuesday, January 15 2008 at 12:00 PM

I'd have to think long and hard before paying MSRP (so to speak.) I really like Chicago. I really like DePaul. I just don't know if I am willing to take on that much debt.

- dgmess01
  • FSU
  • Wednesday, January 16 2008 at 02:43 PM

How did they notify you that you were deferred?

- jalex519
  • FSU Hold
  • Thursday, January 17 2008 at 05:12 AM

So yours actually says hold in bold letters?

- lwsch30
  • FSU
  • Tuesday, January 22 2008 at 08:36 AM

Yeah, best of luck. I'm begining to think though that mine wasn't an official hold. But I'm interpreting it as such. How was volunteering at the ACLU? That seems like something I would love to do.

- lwsch30
  • southwestern
  • Tuesday, January 22 2008 at 04:36 PM

hey did u apply for the scale program? or did u do regular? thanks and congrats. its a great school

- lawgal11
  • SCALE
  • Wednesday, January 23 2008 at 01:28 AM

i listed it as my first choice. i got the letter today saying i need to schedule the interview for the scale program. it does seem intense, but i do want to get it over with. either way i think the interview would really give me more of a feel for it. whats ur top choice? are u from LA ?

- lawgal11
  • fsu letter
  • Wednesday, January 23 2008 at 02:49 AM

it says that i am (ignoring all the unnessesary info) "currently undergoing continuing review. The high volume of applicants we have in this catergory precludes our making a final decision on your file at this time. ... We want to reassure you that, although we are unable to give you an exact date on which to expect a final decision, our goal is to have all final decisions out by the end of May."

- lwsch30
  • FIU
  • Saturday, February 16 2008 at 10:30 AM

Congrats!!! full or part time?

- guyfawkes777
  • FIU
  • Sunday, February 17 2008 at 06:51 AM

I was accepted for the full-time program.

- blar
  • before
  • Wednesday, February 20 2008 at 11:43 PM

you're really choosing Miami over FIU? 90k extra debt for a school that's high tier 2 v. a school high tier 3? That's a risky move. By the time you graduate, Miami will be the #2 School in southern florida.

- hey
  • FIU
  • Friday, February 22 2008 at 05:45 AM

I\'d also like to question your decision to go to UM over FIU with no scholarship $$$ on the table. I don\'t know how much research you have done, but UM is languishing right now. Don\'t expect career prospects to be that great. If you don\'t make top 20% at UM, you\'re out of luck with respect to BIGLAW. That\'s quite a risk with 120K+ of debt. I\'d look more closely at FIU before making that leap.

- fiustudent
  • FIU
  • Friday, February 22 2008 at 02:02 PM

There is no way FIU is going to overtake Miami in 3 years nor is UofMiami 'languishing'. Besides, I have not made my final decision yet. I have done my research and U of M has far greater career prospects but FIU is considered an up-and-coming school with far less debt added on. Maybe 10 years from now they will be considered the premier S Florida law school. I just want the best career prospects possible.

- blar
  • FIU vs. Miami
  • Sunday, March 02 2008 at 06:59 PM

There is no way FIU overtakes UM in the near future. Yes, FIU has a lot of things going for it and their numbers are getting closer to UM's, but their reputation scores are awful. As FIU's student body improves so will their reputation but that takes time. These students with the high qualifications have to have time to get out in the workforce and improve employers perceptions of FIU grads. UM already has those employers trust in South Florida. While I don't have any employment info for UM over the last few years to prove or disprove that they are "languishing", I can look at their ranking, which has stayed pretty constant over the last three years between 65-75, up from 80-85 in the two previous years.

- hurley311
  • miami
  • Wednesday, March 26 2008 at 09:02 PM

FYI, Miami dropped to 83rd in the recent rankings. My hunch is they will drop to the level of stetson within 10 years and hover around 100th/3rd tier. They can't compete with a public University that's 10 minutes away. Compared to Miami, FIU has a better faculty, the bar pass rate is better, it's cheaper, it's FAR nicer of a campus, it's more selective (50% at miami compared to 20% at FIU), the classes are smaller at FIU, et cetera. As the previous poster said Miami has better name recognition and thats it. But what kind of name recognition? Look at the average salaries upon graduation from both FIU and Miami (News Flash- the average FIU grad and the average Miami grad makes almost the same money). Overall there's no comparison, FIU is a better school. End of Story.

- birdy
  • Birdy
  • Friday, March 28 2008 at 05:23 PM

Why would you bring up Miami's ranking when FIU dropped down to the 4th Tier?

- blar
  • The Debate
  • Sunday, March 30 2008 at 01:27 PM

Hey Blar, thanks for posting on my profile. I'd love to chat since it sounds like you'll be my fellow classmate at UM in the Fall! I must say, in regards to the previous posting by birdy that I totally disagree. I got into both FIU and UM and visited both. It is true, FIU is much cheaper and has much nicer facilities. But if you check US News's rankings this year you'll see that for FIU law only 20% of graduates find jobs by graduation. Whatever UM's minuses may be, they have an amazing local reputation and FIU simply doesn't. So I differ from birdy on this issue... Let's chat!

- icarus
  • see you soon
  • Friday, April 04 2008 at 05:57 PM

at UM. Hit me up if you want to get to know each other a little bit. myspace.com/zdstealth where'd you go for undergrad?

- zdstealth
  • FIU/Miami
  • Monday, May 12 2008 at 07:51 AM

Facinating debate on your page :) Interestingly enough Only Icarus mentioned the MOST IMPORTANT factor.. employer's perceptions.. a few hiring attorneys that I spoke with, in regards to FIU being an up and coming school said basically.. oh are they accreditied?... not a very strong rep with local employers. LOL. I think you made the right choice, hope to see you in the fall at the U!

- ngeiger
  • THE U
  • Tuesday, January 06 2009 at 05:45 PM

It's all about the U!! I was faced with the same decision and chose the U , its worth the loans you'll pay them off quickly when you're brining in 100k per year right of school.

- tocci23

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