runn3r (2020-2021)

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Application Information

F - Fee Waiver, A - Attending, W - Withdrawn, D - Deferred
Law School Status Type $$$ Sent Received Complete Decision Updated
University of Texas Austin graph WL, Accepted W $28,000 10/30/07 10/31/07 11/13/07 07/01/08 12 years
University of Virginia F graph WL, Accepted A 10/30/07 10/31/07 11/14/07 05/07/08 13 years
University of Michigan Ann Arbor F graph Waitlisted W 11/01/07 11/08/07 11/20/07 02/29/08 13 years
Northwestern University F graph Pending D W 11/01/07 11/01/07 11/13/07 01/21/08 13 years
Cornell University graph Accepted D W $78,000 10/30/07 10/31/07 11/14/07 01/23/08 13 years
University of Minnesota Twin Cities F graph Accepted W $36,000 11/07/07 11/08/07 11/26/07 11/27/07 13 years
Harvard University graph Rejected 11/03/07 11/05/07 11/29/07 02/19/08 13 years
Columbia University F graph Rejected 10/31/07 10/31/07 11/13/07 02/04/08 13 years
University of Chicago graph Rejected 11/03/07 11/05/07 11/08/07 01/28/08 13 years

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Updated with full disclosure for future splitters & non-trads.

4 years at another state university as a theater major, left without graduating and with a sub-2.0 GPA.

6 years of various work experience before returning to school.

Decided to start over from scratch and enrolled in a local community college for a year and a half, then transfered to the main state university. I maintained a 4.0 GPA during these 4 years.

Graduated in 2007 with the following honors and activities:
Phi Beta Kappa
Highest university honors
Special honors in my major
Dean's list in each semester
Wrote a senior thesis
Undergraduate research fellowship
Ran a foreign language club for two years
Worked at least 20 hrs./wk during school

I applied to the law schools at Texas and Virginia in the Spring of 2007. Virginia rejected me outright, and Texas kept me on the waitlist until the week before classes began.

For 07-08, I did 3 things that made a major difference in my cycle:
1. Applied much earlier, and to a much larger pool of schools. (I spent a good amount of time researching schools and was careful to only apply to those schools that I would have actually attended if admitted).
2. Re-wrote my personal statement and included a GPA addendum in each application. I had made no effort to explain the difference in my first and second college experiences when I applied in 06-07, and I know for a fact that this was a key factor in at least one schools decision. My second cycle utilized the same 2 letters of recommendation as the first.
3. I decided to re-take the LSAT on somewhat short notice when the new reporting rules were announced. I was always bothered by the fact that I had fallen just short of the 170s, and knew that I could get a few more points if I tried. Even though it was only a 3 point bump, I think that being in that particular range (99th %ile / 170s) was beneficial, especially given my LSDAS GPA.

It was nice to have a couple of early decisions so that I didn't go through the entire Spring worrying that I wasn't going to law school, but the number of holds and waitlists was certainly frustrating. I visited three schools - 2 for interviews and 1 ASW - and found that process to be one of the most beneficial when it came time to evaluate my choices. In the end, I am attending my top choice and am very happy and relieved to be done with this entire process.

Good luck to you all!


Cornell: EA Deferral on 12/24/2007, Accepted on 1/23/2008
Texas: EA Hold on 11/27/2007, WL'd on 3/25/2008
Virginia: Non-resident Priority WL on 3/28/2008

Visitor Comments

  • damn
  • Monday, November 05 2007 at 04:34 AM

i'm so interested in your cycle

- selina19
  • Good luck
  • Wednesday, November 14 2007 at 06:55 PM

Best of luck with your apps!

- chaos123
  • GPA
  • Sunday, January 06 2008 at 08:41 AM

That's quite a discrepancy between your LSDAS GPA and your Degree GPA. Sup with that?

- woeisme
  • GPA Discrepancy
  • Tuesday, January 08 2008 at 04:35 AM

I went to college out of high school but left after 4 years with no degree and a GPA ~2. 8 years later, I went back to school again - starting from scratch - and finished with much better grades.

- runn3r
  • Cornell
  • Wednesday, January 23 2008 at 07:36 AM

Same thing happened to me! I got the email this morning a few minutes ago. Congrats!!

- dajicksta
  • Super interested in your cycle
  • Wednesday, January 23 2008 at 07:44 AM

yes, do you have any other details? URM status, any EC's?

- timoteo
  • Congrats on Cornell!
  • Wednesday, January 23 2008 at 04:22 PM

Congratulations on the big acceptance today! Are you willing to speculate on what aspect of your application led the admissions committee to overlook your GPA? I have similar numbers and no acceptances. Good luck with your outstanding applications.

- Chuck
  • Thank for the congratulations
  • Thursday, January 24 2008 at 04:17 AM

timoteo: Not URM. Chuck: If I had to guess, I'd say it was probably the length of time between my first and second sets of grades. 4 years @ 2.0 when I was 18 vs. 4 years of 4.0 when I was 28. I wrote a short GPA addendum explaining the situation honestly and asking that the schools consider my application with the later grades in mind, as they were a more accurate reflection of who I am now and the kind of law student that I expected to be.

- runn3r
  • congrats
  • Tuesday, January 29 2008 at 03:58 PM

on cornell. your story is really unique! best of luck with everything else.

- lizzy1280
  • Nice with Cornell!
  • Thursday, February 21 2008 at 08:16 PM

You think you'll be going there?

- woeisme
  • Michigan
  • Friday, February 29 2008 at 09:15 AM

well, there we go

- didgeridoo
  • uva
  • Wednesday, May 07 2008 at 04:55 PM

hey congrats on getting in off the uva wait list. three questions for you- first, how did you hear? snail mail? phone call? email? second, are you actually going to uva over 78,000 at cornell??? wow. third, did you sign the binding agreement? thanks and congrats again. best of luck to you, and hopefully (if youre set on uva) we'll be classmates next fall. -B

  • 3 answers
  • Wednesday, May 07 2008 at 08:47 PM

1. I got an email from Jason Dugas at about 5:15 this afternoon. 2. Yes, I am. I won't say that it wasn't a very tough decision to make, but for me, the opportunities both during and after UVA law were worth more than the grant money. Hopefully, they will be able to offer me something to take some of the sting out of it. 3. I did submit the binding agreement.

- runn3r
  • Congrats!
  • Thursday, May 08 2008 at 07:25 AM

On Virginia!

- PinkTiki
  • July answer....
  • Monday, July 07 2008 at 06:24 PM

Congrats on all!!!! How did you hear from UTA??

- diplo48
  • Friday, July 11 2008 at 05:48 AM

I would like to attend cornell too, my first two years I didn\\\\\\\'t do too well.....then my last I did really well, got scholarships, etc. Did you talk about grades in u\\\\\\\'re addenum and personal statement

- sarchandra
  • help?
  • Sunday, July 27 2008 at 02:57 PM

Hey there, I\'m TOTALLY interested in your success -as we have the same number... and almost the same story. I would really like advice from you especially since you\'re from Texas, had a four year gap between two different experiences at college, and I suspect, you also went to UT- Austin? That\'s my story too. I am totally crossing my fingers and praying I get into a T20 school... So i\'m totally eager to accept any advice you have... thanks!

- ifought

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