woeisme (2022-2023)

I guess that's a little confusing. They don't have an official early application, I just sent my applications in so that they would be complete before November, and am taking advantage of the early application "advantage."

I know you. =P You'll do fine!

I sent them my personal statement with an egregious typo, probably didn't help.

You must be nervous. You've gone complete everywhere... you could start getting big acceptances/ rejections in the next couple of weeks here. Good luck. Our numbers are close.

i got the scholarship info in the mail. have you heard anything from gtown? i was told my decisions in the mail, but i havent received it yet. keeping my fingers crossed....

There's a strong chance I'll go to MN-- reciprocity, big city, good ranking, and close to home. But we'll just have to see where I get accepted. In all honesty, Cornell is my first choice but I might be tempted to go to UMN or W&M if the $$ is right.

haha, I just added you to my "Watch List" after seeing your profile. Any news from Penn yet? Should we be expecting Deferrals soon?

Congratulations on the decision, that's big news and hopefully lets you relax a little bit. I'd like to talk a little more specifically about #'s/extras via e-mail, so hit me up.

I kind of want to call and see what's up... it sounds like Dean Post has been making phone calls and I'm quite upset mine hasn't blown up yet.

On Texas!

I'm jealous! Did your status checker ever change?

yeah I'm ED at Penn too. Our numbers look to be very similar...but it looks like we'll be deferred. Although on LSD there were more calls yesterday...we can only hope! keep me updated.

Yes. Apparently once the Cornell online tracker goes to decision you can call and they will tell you what that decision is.

Thanks!! I'm very excited. As for the softs..I would email you but all personal email is blocked at my work. LSD works though :) So you can PM me and I'll share through LSD. I'm Outlaw22 on there.

sent you a message on LSD. Sorry it took a little while. I really hope you hear from Penn this week :)

You are rolling in the acceptances - here's to a sweep! CONGRATS MAN!

if you don't mind me asking, what is your GPA? congrats on cornell, I got deferred...and still dreaming for Penn. Naive, I know.

Congrats

for the congrats and same to you! Cornell is a slightly better school than UCLA, but I'm more interested in working in California than New York, so it makes it a lot closer. Plus, even with cost of living, UCLA is a good bit cheaper than Cornell. I'd be thrilled to be at either place and my remark was basically surprise at how well my cycle had gone in general. Best of luck!

Yep. I liked UMN, but feel like the other schools have more of a national reputation. You've got some really good choices. Leaning anywhere?

Congrats on the scholarship to the UofMN, and to your other cycle successes. In all honesty, I'm leaning towards not re-taking the test. As you said, the UofM is a great school, and the TCs is a great community (something I know well from personal experience). How about you? Not to dissuade you from the UMN, but Cornell is "ranked" higher, and I hear Ithaca is a great community (though a bit difficult in the winter--not unlike the TCs). Judging by your LSAT score, you are far better situated than I in being able to hold out successfully for some of these higher ranked schools. Good luck with that!

just got the deferral e-mail. I hope you fared better! happy holidays

no email no mail no call. ridic. for me, from almost every other school that everyone else has heard back from, as well. the wait is draining.

yea was pretty surprised. sorry about penn, you applied early decision? what was your gpa? Soft factors? I ask because I love penn.

and congrats to you as well! I am thrilled with my cycle so far and there's still some potential for it to get better, so I can't complain one little bit. I'm sorry about Penn - I'm sure you've got good news to come. Tell you what - if I sweep the last five, I'll personally bring the broom to your place and sweep the porch (assuming the cold day in hell doesn't impede travel). You're already in great shape and I'm sure even better things are to come!

I'm interested in knowing your GPA and soft factors, as I am confused about the outright rejection. My LSAT was a point lower than yours... Would you mind sharing? I'm kind of perplexed. HOWEVER, Congrats on Cornell!

Working in admissions is alright, though I am looking forward to being a student again next year. Good luck with everything.

wow, I'm shocked to see your rejection (especially since you were accepted at Cornell). I hope the rest of your cycle goes better. Have you called Penn asking for advice specific to your application and why you were rejected?

It will be hard to turn down the big $ offer, especially given that I plan to go into PI law. Haven't made any decisions yet, though. Do you have a preference so far?

yeah, I think it must be an anomaly that you were rejected. You have a lot of great acceptances so far...I'm sure you'll get more as the cycle continues. best of luck.

Cornell is my first choice b/c its an Ivy League school, pure and simple. The amount of prestige added to my degree would be substantial and I could easily take my degree to any big city I wanted to. The only other Ivy League schools are "out of my league" so to speak. I'm also a big fan of New York (state). What was your GPA if you don't mind me asking. Looks like our LSAT scores are both in the upper 1/4th.

apparently doesn't apply to first LSATs ;)

I'm originally from upstate NY and will not move back. the winters are disgusting! did you ever contact penn? I'm writing ANOTHER essay for them right now...congrats on cardozo

i still haven't heard

But we could be seeing rejections. GOOD LUCK!

Sorry, for some reason I didn't show up as logged in.

rejected, too. how many more ru waiting for?

Just got into Cornell today. Cornell is tied for first with Michigan now, after discovering how cool Ann Arbor is. I'm going to decide by visiting both campuses and base my decision on atmosphere. They both having amazing reputations and architecture and I'll be happy at each. I see that you're in at Cornell, maybe I'll see you there!

Congrats on the scholarship from Washington University!

I'm super pumped dude! We gotta visit Austin.

Funny you should ask...i have NO idea what to do. The more i think about the money, the more i think i should take it. I've never been to Ithaca, and I'm going to visit Duke and Michigan as well, maybe that'll help decide things? I feel really conflicted on what would really be the best option long term..a highly ranked school or a free (still well-regarded) school. Are you leaning either way??

I sent in most of my aps in early December, but I didn't go complete until around the New Year.

I hope you'll keep me updated as you try to decide...otherwise, no big deal, i'll just stalk your lsn page!

Yep. I was offered a deferred admission with a 45k dollar scholarship. Im straight from ugrad and they want people with experience. I only get the scholarship if I enter in 2009.

That surprised me as well. I don't take anything for granted, obviously, but I figured I'd be a competitive candidate at GMU. It didn't take them long to make up their minds, either. I guess maybe I waited too long to apply? I also had one semester where I threw up 3 F's and a D (my grades have been A's and B's since), and maybe that scared them off? Who knows.

WUStL gave you teh NASTY scholarship. I think I just got into Michigan. i'm probably not getting into Col/NYU. Been dinged from Chi/Penn. Still waiting for UVA. If I get in, it'll come down to UVA/Mich, with money a big factor. If no UVA, then Michigan, no doubt. Of course, like I said, i THINK i got in. im still skeptical

WUSTL was a hard decision. When I began the process, I didn't think any school could have swayed me from going to Duke if I got in there. Aside from the amazing scholarship, my visit to WUSTL really sealed the deal for me. The campus is nice- it reminded me a lot of Princeton. The law school itself is a very nice gothic building and there is a second law school building being completed next door. All of the people I met were very friendly and the professors were so engaging. I don't have tons of money, so going to a top 25 law school for free was a huge deal for me. You have so many great choices. Good luck with you decision!

I've been at Cornell for the last two years. While we love it here, we are pretty far from my fiances family. They live in Denver, so somewhere closer to the West would be a good choice. The money from Wash U is really tempting. Going to visit there soon. USC would be a good choice if they offered money also. U leaning towards Cornell?

Doubtful. Considering I'm not intent on working in New York, it would probably take considerable scholarship (which obviously isn't going to happen) for me to turn down a full ride at a top 20. Vandy is about the only one I'm really anxious about hearing from... and they're taking forever.

yo, dude- ha, yeah. tell me about it. if i had to speculate, i'd chalk it up to the fact that i went to community college (and got shit grades while there), i've got a bit of a criminal history, and -though my recommendations are glowing and may compensate -i think my PS was kind of weak. oh yeah, and i have absolutely no substantial ECs.

Well, it wasn't really a LOCI, I basically sent them an email saying "Hey, I'm still interested, thought this new LOR might be useful." But yeah, we'll see how that works out. Congrats on your acceptances, and your sweet schollies! You leaning towards anyplace in particular? FWIW, I've lived in Minneapolis and Austin, and you can't go wrong with either one. I liked the Wash U campus when I visited. Also, my best friend is a 3L at Fordham, and he loves it. So...yeah. You've got some nice options.

I was testing in the mid-60s, my highest practice was 166. I lucked out on the actual test with the most favorable testing order for me, along with one of the easiest games sections I've ever had.

Still not sure. I think UVA, Harvard, Penn, Columbia (and possibly Penn, NWU, NYU and Chicago) could trump Cornell. Depends on where else I get in and the $$$ situation. How about you? Cornell is #1?

I'm leaning towards staying at WashU for law school unless I get a scholly from Cornell. What about you?

Thanks for the note. Cornell is more of a possibility than it was before the $$ offer. I guess I will just need to think about things. Assuming you are Cornell-bound?

Hey there. Looks like your cycle has been going well. Is it just me, or is it really difficult to make a final choice?

Congrats on Cornell! You should definitely go there... And withdraw your Wash U application so your fancy-schmancy scholarship can go to someone who needs it... Like me, for example. ... Please!?! :D Congrats on all your acceptances.

I'm shifting between GW, WUSTL, and Georgetown part-time. This would be so easy if I had gotten in to Georgetown full-time. I really like DC, but I would so much rather go to Georgetown than GW. I didn't apply to Cornell because I wanted to be in a city for grad school. I spent 5 years in rural VA, and although I loved it, I want to be able to go to an MLB game and a legit steak-house every so often. Hope that makes sense and doesn't sound too selfish

Top 14, man! My philosophy is generally go to the highest ranked school you get accepted to (unless the difference is really small, like giving up a couple of spots to take a huge scholarship.) There's a big difference between no. 19 and no. 13, and of course there's a big bright line between T14 and "the rest." Now for me, WashU was the highest-ranked school I've gotten into (and, in all likelihood, will get into.) Therefore, my desire for your scholarship (or any portion of it) burns with the heat of a thousand suns. Won't you, who sits comfortably within the high walls of the T14 citadel, throw your table scraps to those of us left out in the hostile wastelands? DISCLAIMER: I am extremely shallow and will probably go to the highest ranked school that takes me. I understand that some people actually factor in geographic considerations, campus tolerability, and other factors. Those people, of course, are crazy. However, they do exist, and you may be one of them. ;)

You are correct, sir. Although I did consider trying to find work as a district attorney. If I were gonna do that I'd probably go to UNLV (my undergraduate alma mater) on the 75% scholarship. Then I decided against it. I noticed that Wash U didn't have any students from UNLV (or the state of Nevada, for that matter.) In fact, most places don't. I'm going to the best school I can, and I'ma represent Vegas. Oh, also I'm gonna make a crap-load of money. Go Rebels!

^Addendum to the above Wash U has no UNLV students according to the class of 2010 profile on their website. I'm going to go ahead and assume that they don't have any in the classes of 2009 or 2008 either, because the Nevada educational system is, to paint with a broad brush, of questionable quality. ... Except for me, I mean. I'm brilliant. ;D

I just got word that Wash U broke off a lil' sump-um sump-um for their boy Toby. Awwwwww jeah. It's not a full tuition scholarship like yours, but it does take some of the bite off of those student loans. So yeah, I'm pretty much going there. See you there, maybe.

Exciting stuff. Thanks.

Hi again. Any closer to deciding?

My head says to go to GW, my heart says to go to WashU, and my ego says to go to Georgetown. I keep joking that after my decision my ego or heart might be proven to be inflated. I really think I am down to Georgetown and WashU. I've tried to put the decision off, hoping I would come up with a clear choice, but it is just very hard.

Why wouldn't i go to GULC? Gave me plenty of money and its a great school!

for me at least. I ended up choosing WashU. Hoping I made the right choice. SO glad to have this over and done with. Thanks for your input during the cycle. Good luck with your choice. Trust me that I know how difficult it is to commit.

I'm trying to escape it for a few years.

I have checked out your profile a handful of times and never understood why your name on here is woeisme considering you are obviously having an awesome cycle with awesome numbers! Congrats! Where do you think you will end up?

I applied to schools last cycle too and tried it again this time. Frustrating because most of my diagnostics were mid to upper 160s, but that just didn't surface the day of... Again.... lol. I wish I had the options you have! I guess everything happens for a reason? In any case, I am most likely going with U of Illinois Champaign because all of my family is in Chicago, I wasn't even going to try for U of Chicago or Northwestern, and UIUC has awesome placement at the big chicago firms. My roommate went to Wash U for undergrad and loved it! St. Louis can be a bit sketchy, but beautiful campus. 0 debt is alluring... Then again, you can't go wrong with a T14 and cash (Cornell). Good luck with your decisions!... Oh, and when you withdraw from UT, can you tell them to piss off for me? lol j/k

it looks like it is USC. What about you? I'm still waiting on Penn...

I'm visiting Austin this weekend. I think my decision will probably be between Austin and WUSTL at this point. The debt at Cornell freaks me out too much...

I will answer YOUR questions once you answer MINE! ;)

hey--I am a guy but put the girl stuff up because I got a bit nervous about the adcomms...I guess I should have done it the other way around, oops. Cornell is a beautiful school but in the middle of nowhere...I applied because I thought it was a target and it would be in the bag. I walked into the cycle much too arrogantly and, judging by the results, that really bit me in the ass. You have great options, so good luck with whatever happens. I'll be keeping tabs on you.

oh and I am staying on at cornell because I paid 75 dollars for that app! haha

Ya know, it was a hard choice only because Cornell is an Ivy, and had nothing to do with money (though, had they given me twice as much, I couldn't have said no). I only buy the T14 to an extent, and since they're in upstate NY, I really just didn't want to be there...no matter how beautiful the law school is. My gf, who is going wherever I go, is from upstate NY and she would not have been happy there. It's depressing and I don't want her to be unhappy, even though she was willing to go wherever. So it came down to just loving Vanderbilt. I really, really loved Nashville and the people I met at the ASW. The job prospects aren't likely SO different that I will regret my decision, so weather wins out. That said, I'll drop my pants and run to Michigan as soon as they come knockin' (*crosses fingers*). I think there is too much of a difference between the two to make the same choice (Vandy). Where are you leaning?

hydrating and waiting for an epiphany -- cornell is 1 of 3 still considering

How does depositing work when you have all of law school paid for? I've wondered this. I am just supposing they give it back to you if you matriculate, but I don't actually know. Also, I thought their deposit deadline past on the first. In any case, good luck with your decision.

Thanks! Congratulations to you too, and on the $ as well!

Shit, I can't believe I didn't tell you this already. It isn't that I forgot, but that I didn't realize that it'd be useful for you to know. You should call Cornell and ask them to match your UT scholarship. When I asked them for $$, the only letter they cared to see was UT (for whatever crazy reason, Vanderbilt didn't phase them). Hopefully it's not too late...

dude.... cornell or washu? i am so f'in confused. i have a deposit at both.

Yeah, Vandy it is. Pocket Cornell withdrawal as of yesterday. As for Cornell's $$, glad you already did that. I guess they liked my 1 point higher LSAT more than your significantly better GPA. I honestly have a hard time wrapping my head around it, but it probably all comes down to quartiles and their desire to have 169 as their upper Q.

I saw your comment on my account and just thought I would let you know that I chose Vanderbilt over Cornell, and I mostly based that decision on location.

Did you finalize anything? I am about to give up on a decision Boston, Georgia, or Vandy. They are just taking too long lol.

Sup d00d. I see you've pinned the little "A" next to Cornell. Have you made up your mind? If so, what made you decide on Cornell?

Check your e-mail, brometheus.

My e-mail address:

Yeaaah. I changed my education info on my facebook to U of I for law school. Its pretty much official now lol. I wish Vanderbilt had the decency to formally reject me. Sheesh. What part of Illinois are you from? All my family is from Chicago. First generation Texan here. I would like to end up in Chicago though and I think UIUC would be great for that!

jealous about Cornell. A free ride from WUSTL is hard to pass up, but you can't beat T14 + cash+ not having to go to far.

Thanks man, no sweat about your post - I was REALLY REALLY surprised as I thought for sure I wouldn't even get a second look. Perhaps I will see you there next year if they show more mercy on me but I'm not counting on anything. Looks like UCONN is the most likely place I will be! Keep in touch! Drew

Yeah, they just offered their aid package and I think I'm gonna take it. It's tough to turn Vandy down. Both are great schools.

I did go to Vassar. I presume you did as well? Who are youuu? Email me, future classmate.

I think that's where I'm headed in the fall...

Maybe..I'm going to check out Ithaca this weekend. Hopefully I'll have more clarity after I see the school. It's between Vandy, USC, and Cornell. I see you've made your decision - that must feel great. Congrats!

on Cornell! See you in August!

On your final decision! I just made mine too. Such a relief to be done after almost two years though. I am sure you feel me! lol. Good luck with everything! : ) ~Hailey

I really only applied there because my best friend from undergrad was a 1L there this year, and once I told her that I didn\'t want to live in the cold, she was pretty understanding.

DePaul before Loyola Chicago because I was ranking my choices and I had to assign a number somewhere. Truth be told to me they were about even. Pretty much a moot point anyway since I\'m going to Drake. Congrats and best wishes at Cornell!

I was waitlisted at cornell the other day...how did your cycles turn out so differently? Anyway, congrats on yours, good luck in the freezing cold in Ithaca!

I actually really loved Kent, so it was a hard decision to make, especially since I had already started there. But Northwestern is an amazing school, and I would always regret it if I didn\'t go. I\'m not sure what got me in. I do have a lot of soft factors, but that didn\'t seem to matter before, so I\'m surprised it did now. Still, I\'m grateful and very excited! Best of luck in Ithaca!

Hey, don't know if you remember this or not but I was wondering if you got your scholarship offer from Emory with your acceptance or if it came a significant amount of time after. Just wondering because our numbers seem really similar and I plan on applying pretty soon. Thanks!

I would, but unfortunately I can't handle the NY weather. To be honest I probably can't handle it at some of the other places I'm applying to, but I'm more likely to go to those schools if I get accepted. I just don't want to apply to Cornell and potentially steal a spot from someone else who really wants to go. Thanks for the info!

Thanks for the comments, and good luck with your studies at Cornell.

So what's happened since 2008?

The economy still sucks!