HopefulApplicant (2020-2021)

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Application Information

F - Fee Waiver, A - Attending, W - Withdrawn, D - Deferred
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# Law School Status Type $$$ Sent Received Complete Interview Date Decision Updated
Washington and Lee University Accepted D W Type: RA Sent: 10/31/07 Rec: 10/31/07 Comp: 11/16/07 Inter: -- Dec: 04/23/07 Upd: 13 years
Fordham University Waitlisted W Type: RA Sent: 10/31/07 Rec: 10/31/07 Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: 04/15/08 Upd: 13 years
Temple University Accepted W Type: RA $5,000 Sent: 10/17/07 Rec: 10/17/07 Comp: 10/24/07 Inter: -- Dec: 12/14/07 Upd: 13 years
Boston University Accepted W Type: RA $15,000 Sent: 10/23/07 Rec: 10/23/07 Comp: 12/17/07 Inter: -- Dec: 01/24/08 Upd: 13 years
Villanova University Accepted W Type: RA $4,000 Sent: 10/16/07 Rec: 10/16/07 Comp: 11/06/07 Inter: -- Dec: 12/05/07 Upd: 13 years
George Washington University Waitlisted W Type: RA Sent: 10/25/07 Rec: 10/25/07 Comp: 11/02/07 Inter: -- Dec: 01/31/08 Upd: 13 years
College of William and Mary Waitlisted W Type: RA Sent: 10/29/07 Rec: 10/29/07 Comp: 11/07/07 Inter: -- Dec: 03/19/08 Upd: 13 years
University of Pittsburgh Accepted W Type: RA $15,000 Sent: 10/17/07 Rec: 10/17/07 Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: 11/24/07 Upd: 13 years
Penn State University (Dickinson) Accepted W Type: RA $20,000 Sent: 10/16/07 Rec: 10/16/07 Comp: 11/09/07 Inter: -- Dec: 12/04/07 Upd: 13 years
University of Miami Accepted W Type: RA $25,000 Sent: 10/22/07 Rec: 10/26/07 Comp: 10/26/07 Inter: -- Dec: 10/31/07 Upd: 13 years
University of San Diego Accepted W Type: RA $17,000 Sent: 10/29/07 Rec: 10/29/07 Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: 12/13/07 Upd: 13 years
University of Florida Accepted A Type: RA $8,000 Sent: 10/26/07 Rec: 10/26/07 Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: 11/20/07 Upd: 13 years
University of Maryland Accepted W Type: RA Sent: 10/19/07 Rec: 11/16/07 Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: 12/05/07 Upd: 13 years
Widener University Accepted W Type: RA $29,430 Sent: 10/26/07 Rec: 10/26/07 Comp: 11/27/07 Inter: -- Dec: 12/19/07 Upd: 13 years
Boston College Rejected D Type: Sent: 10/23/07 Rec: 10/23/07 Comp: 11/05/07 Inter: -- Dec: 02/20/08 Upd: 13 years
University of California Berkeley Rejected Type: RA Sent: 10/23/07 Rec: 10/23/07 Comp: 11/08/07 Inter: -- Dec: 02/07/08 Upd: 13 years
University of Pennsylvania Rejected Type: RA Sent: 11/01/07 Rec: 11/02/07 Comp: 11/21/07 Inter: -- Dec: 01/15/08 Upd: 13 years
George Mason University Rejected Type: RA Sent: 10/26/07 Rec: 10/26/07 Comp: 11/02/07 Inter: -- Dec: 01/17/08 Upd: 13 years
Northwestern University Rejected Type: RA Sent: 11/02/07 Rec: 11/02/07 Comp: 12/18/07 Inter: -- Dec: 01/16/08 Upd: 13 years
University of Notre Dame Waitlisted Type: RA Sent: 10/22/07 Rec: 10/22/07 Comp: 10/26/07 Inter: -- Dec: 01/10/08 Upd: 13 years
Georgetown University Rejected Type: RA Sent: 11/01/07 Rec: 11/01/07 Comp: 11/19/07 Inter: -- Dec: 01/02/08 Upd: 13 years
Cornell University Rejected Type: RA Sent: 10/23/07 Rec: 10/23/07 Comp: 11/09/07 Inter: -- Dec: 12/20/07 Upd: 13 years

Applicant Information

  • LSAT: 163
  • LSAT 2: 163
  • LSAT 3: -
  • LSAC GPA: 3.99
  • Degree GPA: 3.99
  • School Type: Small, Private
  • Major: Criminal Justice

Demographic Information

  • City: -
  • State: Pennsylvania
  • Race: Caucasian
  • Gender: Man
  • Years out of Undergrad: Other

Extra Curricular Information

Nothing special, but I was fairly active during my college years. I have a good mix of awards, community service, and extracurricular activities.

Additional info & updates

A definition of terms:

"Sent"=Date I sent the application electronically via the LSAC online application

"Received"=Date that the law school requested my law school report

"Complete"=Date that the law school sent me an email, postcard, letter, etc. that I am complete

"Decision"=Date of the email, letter, etc. that I received (keep in mind that it often takes a few days via snail mail to be received! I therefore use the date that the letter was dated)

I have decided to disclose my information much earlier than I had decided, for various reasons. I have nothing to hide, really. I would love to attend any of these schools, and the posts I make online are all helpful and friendly.

To give a background about myself: I am a second-time applicant who was very disappointed with my results last time. I scored ia 154 my first time, and a 163 my second time, after a lot of studying. Perseverance pays off, for sure...

Because of my multiple LSATs, and the unsure nature of the application process, I decided to apply to many schools this cycle. I chose schools where I would genuinely consider attending, and I think it is a good list of fine law schools. I would honestly be happy to attend any of them.

My GPA is a 3.99. My school is basically unknown. My major is considered "weak," unfortunately.

I'll try to update as I feel more comfortable doing so.

Good luck to everyone applying this cycle!

University of Florida-I received an email from them 11/7/07, telling me that applicants need to go to this link and fill out additional information, and pay the application fee.

University of Miami-my first acceptance!

It was dated 10/31/07, but I received it the 11/5/07. It was a normal-sized envelope with many papers for a seat deposit, etc. It stated that most scholarships are awarded in late December.

This hopefully is a good sign. Miami is higher-ranked than ANY school to which I was accepted the last time I applied! :0)

Georgetown-I'm complete here. Keep in mind, however, that I may have been complete earlier; today was the first time I used their status checker.

University of Pittsburgh-My second acceptance! It came in a regular-sized envelope, thickly packed, with some general information. Scholarship info is supposed to come approximately three weeks after the acceptance letter.

University of Florida-My third acceptance! It came in a large, 8.5 by 11 (I think) tan envelope. It states the merit-based scholarships are awarded from January to March. The letter arrived 11/23; it was dated 11/20/07.

11/30-I received a scholarship letter in the mail! $15,000/year, contingent on maintaining a "B" average. This made my night!

University of Maryland-I received an acceptance in a regular-sized envelope! It stated that additional correspondence will follow.

University of Penn State Dickinson-I received an acceptance in a regular-sized envelope, along with a scholarship offer of $20,000 per year! It is contingent upon remaining in good standing and remaining in the top half of the class.

University of Villanova-I received an acceptance via a regular-sized envelope!

University of San Diego-I received an acceptance via a very large envelope! It contained financial aid info; only then do they give you an offer of assistance. I'll have to see what they means in regards to scholarship opportunities.

Fordham-I checked the status checker online 12/13/07, and it stated that I'm at the second evaluation stage. At the very least they're taking another good look at my application! I'm counting this as a "deferral."

Temple-I was accepted to Temple, via a very large envelope. I received a "First Year Scholars" award of $5,000, nonrenewable.

Boston College-My application is placed on hold, via a regular-sized envelope. :0/ They said they will mail decisions for hold candidates by Feb. 29, 2008. I was hoping for something different from them...

Boston University-I finally received a complete from them 12/17/07. It took approximately seven weeks for me to go complete!

Widener University-I was accepted for their Harrisburg campus via a very large envelope. It was also awarded full tuition, contingent on maintaining a 3.0 average.

Cornell-My first rejection of this cycle came in a thin, regular-sized envelope. I received it on Christmas Eve. :0(
They were very nice in their rejection letter, though.

Georgetown-My second rejection in a row. Another thin, regular-sized envelope.

Notre Dame-My first official waitlist. It's called a "Provisional List;" the letter states that they normally accept 25-50 students off this list in late April to May. They do not rank their waitlist.

It's better than an outright rejection, so I'm kind of happy. However, I feel as if I already hit the zenith of my good news, and that the rest of the news will just be bad...

Northwestern-They sent me an email, where they told me to check my decision letter online (they do NOT mail decisions) by using my applicant ID numbers. I was rejected. I really, really liked NW, so this one really stung...

George Mason-I received a rejection in a thin envelope. I was slightly surprised about this one, as my numbers are competitive there, but they get sooo many applications from people wanting to be near D.C...oh well...

University of Miami-After emailing them politely about a possible scholarship, they offered me $23,000/yr., contingent on maintaining a 3.0! They've been really nice throughout the whole process, and it doesn't seem to be hard to keep. This is in response to a question on their discussion board:

"For last spring (2006) the 50% cut off for first year students was 2.953. Approximately 85-90% retain their scholarship after their first-year. Merit Scholarships are renewable for the second and third year of law school provided the student maintains a "B" average (3.000) or better.

The Curve: For first year classes only, faculty must give a combined total of A and B+ grades to at least 20% of the class and a combined total of B, B+, and A grades to at least 45% of the class. Faculty are free to give more A, B+, and B grades.

Faculty who teach first year classes are required to give C- or below grades to at least 5% of the class, which would just be 5 in a class of 100 or 3 in class of 50. The reason for the latter rule is to ensure that students who are in serious academic difficulty are forced to confront the problem early in their law school career, rather than squeak by in school and then find themselves unable to pass the bar and unprepared for practice."

It's good to have some good news after a lot of bad news! :0)

Boston University-Some more good news! I received a call today saying I was accepted, and info is to come in the mail. I can't believe I made it into a top 20 school!

UPenn-A rejection. The letter was dated "1/15/2008," although I didn't receive it until 1/26/2008. I was expecting a rejection, obviously, so I'm not too bummed. However, going to an Ivy League school AND being close to my family would've been nice.

University of San Diego-I received a $17,000/yr. scholarship; I need to remain in the top 33% of the day division, though.

George Washington-I'm on the waitlist, receiving a thin letter dated 1/31/2008. I was actually happy to see this, just like ND; I knew that both were reaches for me. I consider this a victory! :0)

Temple-They sent me an email in response to my request for a scholarship reconsideration.

Instead of only giving me $5,000 nonrenewable, it's now $5,000 renewable, contingent on remaining in the top half of the class. That's not a bad deal at all!

Berkeley-I received a rejection in thin envelope. It was the most humane rejection letter by far, in my humble opinion.

I was hoping I had a shot, since I was complete for approximately three months. Oh well, I can't complain; I am fortunate to have so many good options that many people do not. Still, it stings a little. :0/

Boston College-Another rejection via snail mail, in a thin envelope.

At least they were nice enough to send it out a little more than a week before their deadline, but I'm still a little bummed.

Boston University-I received a $15,000/yr. scholarship, provided I remain in "good academic standing" and my financial circumstances do not change significantly.

This is going to make my decision tougher, but I can't complain! :0)

Washington and Lee-I received a thin envelope stating that I'm deferred. The latest they said they would send me a decision (i.e., either an acceptance or a waitlist!) is 4/24 (postmarked).

The letter also stated that I would be considered for a merit scholarship if funds are still available.

Miami-I received a call from the Dean: I'm a Miami Scholar!

Their website describes their program well:

"Up to twenty-two entering law students, two from each of the eleven federal judicial circuits, are selected each year as Miami Scholars. Miami Scholars serve on the Public Interest Leadership Board through the HOPE Public Interest Resource Center and play a key role in advancing public interest programming and opportunities at the School of Law.

Each Miami Scholar is awarded an annual $25,000 law school tuition scholarship provided a cumulative grade point average of 3.00 or better is maintained. In addition, in the summer after their first year of law school, Miami Scholars are guaranteed a summer position or granted a partial tuition scholarship for one summer of enrollment in either one of our summer abroad programs or on-campus summer session following their first or second year of law school. Miami Scholars also receive a partial tuition scholarship if they are admitted to and enroll in one of our LL.M. programs upon graduation (or, in the case of the School's JD/LL.M. Programs in Taxation, International Law, Inter-American Law or Ocean & Coastal Law, before graduation). The School offers LL.M. programs in Comparative Law (for graduates of international law schools), Estate Planning, Inter-American Law, International Law, Ocean and Coastal Law, Real Property Development, and Taxation. Miami Scholarships are available for full-time students only."

W&M-I was waitlisted via snail mail. I really liked this school, and I expected it to be one of my top choices when I began researching schools. Oh well, it was not to be...

Boston-I received via snail mail that I did not make it into the Public Interest Scholars Program. I was expecting this, because it's such a good school, but it never hurts to apply!

Florida: I received an $8,000 nonrenewable "Levin College of Law Fellows Grant." They said that "[t]he grant is given to encourage students to pursue a career in law school education, law school administration, or a specialized area of the law."

I'm happy to see this! It's going to make it harder to choose, but I'm glad to have such a great "problem!" :0)

Florida-I decided on Florida! Feel free to ask me, and I'll give you my rationale for choosing it.

Fordham-I saw that I was waitlisted via the online status checker.

W&L-They accepted me! I was expecting a WL, so this was a pleasant surprise. It feels good to be wanted. :0)

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Saturday, November 03 2007 at 04:26 PM

Hey, how did Berkeley acknowledge receipt of the app? Good luck this cycle; your numbers are great and I'll bet you'll have a sweet choice to make in the spring

Wednesday, November 14 2007 at 08:20 AM

Congrats on MIAMI as well!!!! We have quite a few of the same schools... let me know when you hear anything and Ill be sure to do the same. GOOD LUCK!

Monday, November 19 2007 at 11:30 AM

Wow, you really raised your LSAT. That's quite a feat. Congratulations on your acceptance from U of M. That's a great school and a good sign for how this cycle will go for you. Best of luck.

Monday, November 19 2007 at 11:38 AM

Good job on the Miami acceptance. Thanks to you! Happy Thanksgiving!

Tuesday, November 20 2007 at 04:01 AM

You asked why I didn't apply to Miami? I live pretty far north in Florida. Miami is a looooong way from me. As a matter of fact, southern Georgia would be closer. I'd really like to go to UF so I didn't have to move at all but I must admit I'd pick up and travel for Georgetown. :-) Thanks for the comment. I can't wait to see where else you get in.

GL Back Atya!
Thursday, November 22 2007 at 08:51 PM

Good luck to you too! What's your account name on LSD?

Friday, November 23 2007 at 09:10 AM

On Florida!

Friday, November 23 2007 at 09:23 AM

I'm very happy for you fellow CJ major! It was a foregone conclusion though!

Friday, November 23 2007 at 06:58 PM

Yea, we'll run this place soon enough. I know enough about community policing, racial profiling, and the broken-window theory to kill a man! Again, congrats on UF, where's your #1?

I hear ya
Saturday, November 24 2007 at 06:26 AM

I understand your situation. I had a buddy last year who had the exact same "problem," if it can even be called that. He was a CJ major too. He ended up getting a full scholly somewhere.

Saturday, November 24 2007 at 07:26 AM

He went to FSU, he got a full ride there. UF didn't offer him as much money and UGA didn't offer him almost any. Although, his numbers were significantly better than both of ours, he was a smart cookie.

Sunday, November 25 2007 at 05:08 PM

No doubt, anything for a CJ buddy.

Monday, November 26 2007 at 04:16 PM

Congrats on the acceptances so far! Where are you really looking forward to going?

Tuesday, November 27 2007 at 01:43 PM

My stats are a bit lower than yours, so I'll probably be focusing on which schools offer me the most $$. Best of luck!

thank you!
Thursday, November 29 2007 at 09:43 AM

wishing you good luck with the rest of the cycle :)

Saturday, December 08 2007 at 06:09 AM

dude, you have no freakin idea how relieving that was...Looks like you have been killing this cycle, you already have a ton of options and its only december!!!

Monday, December 10 2007 at 07:19 AM

...on your acceptances, and hope you hear more good things soon! haha on the other hand, I am waiting to hear SOMETHING from ANYONE

Thursday, December 13 2007 at 03:45 AM

Looks like you are doing well...you'll probably get a letter from USD in a day or two. What's your #1? Good luck with the rest!

Thursday, December 13 2007 at 10:01 AM

That is how I read it too. If they tell you something different when you call please let me know! Congrats!

Good luck with your cycle!
Thursday, December 13 2007 at 06:35 PM

Thanks! Although I wish my GPA was as good as yours! Let's trade!!! lol

good luck
Thursday, December 13 2007 at 09:14 PM

we applied to similar schools, i wish ya the best of luck

Friday, December 14 2007 at 07:19 AM

I was so happy! Good luck to you as well, you are doing just fine!

Friday, December 14 2007 at 12:35 PM

Thanks for the congrats. I go to Ursinus College. Congrats on your acceptances so far and best of luck with the rest of your cycle!

hello again
Friday, December 14 2007 at 02:09 PM

my soft factors are complete crap so i'm actually happy about it being a numbers game. oh yea, you've got yourself a deal! .2 gpa for 2 lsat.... absolutely! i'm calling lsac right now... lol

Saturday, December 15 2007 at 03:43 PM

You are kicking ass this cycle, congrats

Wednesday, December 19 2007 at 04:44 PM

Thanks for the words. I'm signing up for the Feb TestMasters course.

Sunday, December 23 2007 at 02:08 AM

I considered going north when we were getting highs in the 80's in November. After an August with record highs, I was ready for some cooler weather, but my husband talked some sense into me. I was considering Temple because a friend went there and love it. Of course, she graduated this year and still doesn't have a job...

Friday, December 28 2007 at 09:50 AM

doesn't make decisions til like Jan/Feb I believe.

Hey man
Friday, December 28 2007 at 05:05 PM

I'm honestly leaning towards FSU, and will probably go there unless someone blows me away or I get into UGA. What about you?

Friday, January 04 2008 at 08:35 AM

My condolences. I hope you get some more nice acceptances soon.

Friday, January 04 2008 at 09:39 AM

My condolences. I hope you get some more nice acceptances soon.

99logged user
Friday, January 04 2008 at 03:56 PM

Did you apply to both full time and part time?

cheer up !
Wednesday, January 16 2008 at 05:24 AM

Sorry about Northwestern...keep your head up, though because you have a lot of great acceptances already. I know how you feel when you said you feel like the rest of the news is going to be bad...thats pretty much the point I'm at as well.

Wednesday, January 23 2008 at 01:04 PM

I see you had the same result at GM, boooo. Looks like you've got some nice choices and $ already, though. Any schools you're leaning towards?

Thursday, January 24 2008 at 06:35 PM

you're really doing well this cycle. congrats on everything, especially BU. if you don't mind me asking, what all did you say in your email to miami about a scholarship? did you reference your other offers or just try to promote yourself? also, who did you send it to? any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Friday, January 25 2008 at 10:20 AM

hey thanks again. i fired you an email so look out for it.

Sunday, January 27 2008 at 07:47 AM

You're kicking some @$$ yourself.

Sunday, January 27 2008 at 02:47 PM

i got it, thanks a lot

Wednesday, January 30 2008 at 03:13 PM

I'm thinking about giving up on this cycle, retaking the LSAT and applying next fall. What advice can you offer me? I'm hoping to score 163+ Thanks and congrats on all your acceptances so far!

Wednesday, January 30 2008 at 06:55 PM

I'm thinking about retaking because I know I can do a lot better than the 160 I got on the June test. I want to get into better schools, or at least have a chance at getting money at a place like Tulane. Stetson hardly give out any scholarships at all. You can email me how you decided to reapply and what you did differently the second time you took the LSATs/applied. Thanks!

Thursday, January 31 2008 at 02:35 PM

You're really racking up on the decisions too. I don't know about you, but I'm ready to pick a school. But it'll be a while before that happens, lol.

Sunday, February 10 2008 at 07:27 AM

We applied to some similar schools. I'm planning on visiting Temple, Dickinson, and Pitt shortly. Have you visited any of the campuses yet? I'd love to know if there are any schools you're currently leaning towards. Good luck with everything!

Friday, February 15 2008 at 12:41 PM

haha it would be nice, wouldn't it? i wouldn't mind hearing from w&l too.

Friday, February 15 2008 at 01:45 PM

I don't know which way I am leaning, man. Boalt hurt pretty badly, but now I feel like I have a bunch of decent options on the table and don't know where to go. If I get BU or a higher ranked school I will probably go there. If not, it's a tossup between Tulane and Fordham. What do you think I should do?

Friday, February 15 2008 at 01:51 PM

I don't know which way I am leaning, man. Boalt hurt pretty badly, but now I feel like I have a bunch of decent options on the table and don't know where to go. If I get BU or a higher ranked school I will probably go there. If not, it's a tossup between Tulane and Fordham. What do you think I should do?

Sunday, February 24 2008 at 08:46 AM

For the congrats. Where are you leaning now?

Vandy WL
Monday, March 10 2008 at 06:58 AM

Honestly, I didn't really care. I was happy it wasn't a straight out rejection, lol. I may not even write a LOCI. Vandy is just too expensive.

Tuesday, March 11 2008 at 04:19 AM

I'm very close to a decision. But I still have some visits to make before withdrawing anywhere. Whew, so ready, lol.

Sunday, March 16 2008 at 12:23 PM

Congrats on all of your acceptances! Are you leaning towards any schools right now?

Sunday, March 16 2008 at 02:23 PM

The $17K is a one time deal for my first year. It's not based on grades or anything, it's guaranteed, which is nice (although I doubt I will attend USD. I love San Diego though, I went to UCSD for undergrad and I miss it a lot).

hard to say...
Sunday, March 16 2008 at 05:42 PM

I just wrote my LOCI and updated resume for W&L, I'd really like to go there. Otherwise, it'll likely be Pitt. How about you?

Sunday, March 16 2008 at 08:02 PM

I have no idea of where I want to go right now. I'm hoping that after I visit IU-B and Cornell (and hear back from some TX schools) that I can have a better idea.

My Choice
Saturday, March 22 2008 at 04:51 PM

I'm waiting to see where else I can get in, but I'm probably gonna decide between OSU and Hastings (if I don't get into Wisconsin). Good luck on your cycle, hopefully you'll get off those waitlists!

Thursday, April 10 2008 at 11:20 AM

thank you! i'm pretty happy with how it all turned out. good luck at florida, i hope you enjoy the warmer climate!

leaning towards GW....
Thursday, April 10 2008 at 06:32 PM

From what I hear in Boston NU and GW job prospects are largely the same so I'm going to try and go with a) which school I like better, and b) what's cheaper.

Friday, April 11 2008 at 05:05 AM

Well, the scholarship was huge and Atlanta makes it much easier on my husband (he can find a job easily and then in 3 years he won't have to move again since I'll be able to find a job there.) It was a no brainer after the scholarship. Although I did love Bama... Congrats on Florida!

Friday, April 11 2008 at 07:33 PM

Northeastern isn't giving me anymore money. My heart is in Boston, but I'd be nice to have a break for a while from the area since I've been here just about forever. I'm planning on GW, unless I get off the BC waitlist.

Sunday, April 13 2008 at 07:03 PM

I'm leaning towards UF at this point. How about yourself?

Saturday, April 19 2008 at 12:21 PM

Sounds good--Florida's a great school in a great town.

You\'re gay.
Thursday, May 29 2008 at 04:56 AM

Florida is about to get a little more gay.

Wednesday, June 11 2008 at 05:10 PM

Congrats on Florida and good luck this fall!

haha yeah
Wednesday, July 30 2008 at 09:21 AM

Though I can hardly call it settling! GW is a great option and I\'m wicked excited about orientation starting in 2 weeks. Where are you headed?