nmb238 (2022-2023)

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Application Information

F - Fee Waiver A - Attending W - Withdrawn D - Deferred
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# Law School Status Type $$$ Sent Received Complete Interview Date Decision Updated
#6 Cardozo-Yeshiva University F Accepted W Type: RA $120,000 Sent: 11/27/05 Rec: -- Comp: 12/09/05 Inter: -- Dec: 12/22/05 Upd: 18 years
#2 Harvard University Rejected D Type: RA Sent: 11/27/05 Rec: -- Comp: 01/05/06 Inter: -- Dec: 05/02/06 Upd: 18 years
#1 University of Pennsylvania WL, Accepted A Type: RA Sent: 11/27/05 Rec: -- Comp: 12/15/05 Inter: -- Dec: 05/22/06 Upd: 18 years
#1 New York University Rejected Type: RA Sent: 11/27/05 Rec: -- Comp: 12/14/05 Inter: -- Dec: 04/06/06 Upd: 18 years
#3 University of Michigan Ann Arbor Waitlisted W Type: RA Sent: 11/27/05 Rec: -- Comp: 12/20/05 Inter: -- Dec: 03/03/06 Upd: 18 years
#2 Columbia University Waitlisted W Type: RA Sent: 11/27/05 Rec: -- Comp: 01/07/06 Inter: -- Dec: 03/11/06 Upd: 18 years
#3 Cornell University Accepted W Type: RA Sent: 11/27/05 Rec: -- Comp: 12/12/05 Inter: -- Dec: 01/19/06 Upd: 18 years
#3 Georgetown University Rejected Type: RA Sent: 11/27/05 Rec: -- Comp: 01/11/06 Inter: -- Dec: 03/16/06 Upd: 18 years
#4 George Washington University Accepted W Type: RA $30,000 Sent: 11/27/05 Rec: -- Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: 01/20/06 Upd: 18 years
#5 Fordham University Accepted W Type: RA $36,000 Sent: 11/27/05 Rec: -- Comp: 12/05/05 Inter: -- Dec: 01/17/06 Upd: 18 years
#1 Yale University Rejected Type: RA Sent: 12/01/05 Rec: -- Comp: 12/16/05 Inter: -- Dec: 02/06/06 Upd: 18 years

Applicant Information

  • LSAT: 167
  • LSAT 2: -
  • LSAT 3: -
  • GRE : -
  • LSAC GPA: 3.855
  • Degree GPA: -
  • School Type: New York Univ.
  • Major: Politics

Demographic Information

  • City: -
  • State: New York
  • Race: white
  • Gender: Man
  • Non-Traditional Applicant: Yes
  • Years out of Undergrad: -

Extra Curricular Information

Now that cycle is over, I can be a lil less anonymous:
Loads of soft factors. President of political club on campus, contributor to newspaper, board member of Jewish Student Union, Honors' Scholar with tons of extracurricular stuff.

Lived in Jerusalem for a year before starting undergrad; spent a semester in Florence junior year.

Phi Beta Kappa. Honors' thesis. Published in undergrad journal.

Three good recs: thesis advisor/head of undergrad polisci dept. University administrator and Freshman Honors Seminar professor. Director of the Hillel on campus.

Solid personal statement but nothing groundbreaking. All of this crap does not come close to even rivaling the LSAT in importance.

Additional info & updates

12/22- Phone call from Cardozo dean of Admissions. Really great to hear. Big white envelope a few days later.

1/17- Email from Fordham Law dean. More good news, im liking it. Snail mail a few days later, and lots of it.

1/19- Email from Cornell. Ecstatic and wishing theyd move the law school to somewhere thats... not so... cold. .

1/20- Email from GW. Letter a few days later, plain small envelope.

2/06- Yale rejection in a small envelope. Not surprised in the least, and wondering why I applied in the first place.

2/15- Got an email from Michigan saying theyve reviewed my file. Or, deferred...

3/3- ...but not for long. Michigan waitlist email.

3/4- Harvard hold letter/deferral. Absolutely SHOCKED because I was expecting a rejection weeks ago.

3/11- Columbia "reserve" via regular mail. I think a Columbia waitlist is tantamount to a rejection.

3/16- Penn Law Admissions VERY kindly tells me that I will hear very soon. Tone was too encouraging to be true.

3/20- Rejected at Georgetown, a school I did not really want to go to, but it still stings a little.

03/28- In the past few weeks, Penn had joined NYU (and i guess Yale) as the places I most wanted to be next year. I really loved everything about it when I visited, so while this waitlist stings I am also hoping its an opportunity to get them some more glowing info about me.

04/06- Out at NYU. This is the only one that really, really hurts. Came the same day as a letter from their undergrad, informing me of all the special honors tassels I get to wear at graduation. Ironys a bitch but I think their lack of waitlist for their top students speaks very lowly of the school. Then again, I'm bitter. Very.

5/22- Penn calls. I am so excited I could vomit. Penn, since I visited, has been just the DREAM. Moving to Philly in August. I could take out a thesaurus and list all the synonyms for JOY but I think you get the idea.
- Fordham: 10k a year, upped to 13k when I began the withdrawal process
- GW: Presidential Merit Scholars Program = 10k a year
- Cardozo: Deans Scholarship = 25k a year. Then was offered the Monrad Paulsen scholarship upon withdrawal- full ride plus 5k a year stipend.

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Penn Hold
Thursday, September 08 2005 at 08:00 PM

Hey man, thanks for the Georgetown congrats. With all these deferrals, it's comforting to know I'm at least going somewhere. Yeah, if you don't get deferred you don't have to submit your fall grades. I'm not sure if people applying regular decision have to submit their fall grades or if its just the EA people, though. I'm gonna call them tomorrow and get more info (I got a 3.5 this semester, thanks to senioritus and 2 part-time jobs so I really don't want to do this). Good luck this cycle, man. Kick some ass.

Monday, November 28 2005 at 07:00 PM

on Cornell! Is it your top choice thus far? Are you planning on attending any of the admitted student days in the next couple of months?

Monday, December 05 2005 at 07:00 PM

on Cornell. Same numbers, same result, same day.

index numbers
Wednesday, November 16 2005 at 07:00 PM

i was trying to figure out what would push up my index number at columbia. apparently one more A. agreed that that is bogus. i hope they use hundredths when they go back and look at my index in june. good luck on your apps. i'm thinking that a georgetown acceptance is coming your way very soon judging by your complete date. hopefully only more acceptances follow afterwards!

Monday, January 16 2006 at 07:00 PM

No, I was wrong... I changed it five seconds after it went up. Regular waitlist at Michigan...

almost twins
Tuesday, November 01 2005 at 07:00 PM

our numbers are so close (yours a bit higher)...it is strange the differences between our results. they seem to even out, but on an individual basis, weird. we have hard decisions to make, right? I'm definitely struggling with mine. Good luck on the rest of your schools and congrats on doing very well thus far.

Penn answer
Wednesday, September 28 2005 at 08:00 PM

Sorry to confuse you about Penn...I got the phone call and email today...envelope is apparently on the way via UPS :)

Thank you!
Thursday, September 08 2005 at 08:00 PM

I am quite shocked to be admitted to Penn! I think, given your Harvard deferral, it shows you have a very strong application and I will not be suprised when you recieve the Penn phone call. I think I may just have to choose Penn over GULC. I'm from the Philly area and its the most practical decision, but I'll wait for aid offers to roll in.

Tuesday, February 14 2006 at 07:00 PM

I never sincerely implied that I truly believe they discriminate against those who are frum. I do not believe that this is the case and I would like to continue NOT believing. The comment was made based on what I have heard in the past from some frum individuals (probably those who have been rejected). There are so many factors that go into a decision for prospective law students in all schools, let alone Columbia and NYU. Again, I doubt being frum is a significant factor in making any kind of decision. However, I do feel that there may be quotas within each law school. Some may have a set number of admits for individuals who fit a certain criteria and fall into certain categories. Being the case, if a school accepts "x" amount of applicants from a yeshiva/public college and you fall into that category, yet, are rejected from that school because their "quota" may have already been filled from that category, I feel it may be somewhat unfair and puts those categorized individuals at a disadvantage. Plus, this person may have unbelievable numbers - 75th percentile in both LSAT and GPA as well as a number of honors. Would this apply for people who fall into other categories aside from yeshiva/college categories? Or would the numbers stand out consequently leading to an acceptance regardless of a "filled quota?" Who knows??????? It is probably this question that frum people get their discrimination ideas from.

And now, by that logic. . .
Tuesday, February 14 2006 at 07:00 PM

Thanks for the response. I hear your point of view. I'll be more careful... For the record...NYU and Columbia discriminate against frum people. haha - jk!!!!!! Goodluck "~n"

your undergrad/#s twin
Sunday, October 23 2005 at 08:00 PM

yeah hey! i mean, couldn't nyu at least have acted a little bit like they wanted me? haha i think you have a great shot though. seriously, they rejected me straight off the bat while they obviously still like you and are keeping you in the running! i hope you get in. i seriously really hope you get in (and to Penn too!) congrats on your acceptances so far and also on your harvard deferral! that's really exciting. =)

Thursday, September 08 2005 at 08:00 PM

Hi! Congrats on all the acceptances! We have very similar numbers so i\\\'ll be watching your status for penn and nyu! good luck!

Thursday, September 08 2005 at 08:00 PM

Hi! Congrats on all the acceptances! We have very similar numbers so i\\\'ll be watching your status for penn and nyu! good luck!

i will never understand the mystery...
Tuesday, November 01 2005 at 07:00 PM

that is this admit process. i think i'm leaning east coast right now, to be only a little vague about my answer. the $ from cardozo and fordham were tempting for a minute but in the end I think I'm going to resist. Now what are these other schools waiting for?! It's like removing a bandaid. Very, very slowly. Best of luck to you again...

true enough
Tuesday, September 06 2005 at 08:00 PM

I know exactly what you mean, there's seriously not much method to the madness. I do hope that they read my application and that is, perhaps, why some schools admitted me even though my numbers wouldn't provide them with much leverage. I am happy that we've both had the good fortune of being accepted to quite a few excellent places. Where are you thinking of heading? I'm leaning towards Michigan, but I'm still giving Gtown and NU a chance to impress. Lastly, do you get the impression that a 167 on the LSAT puts you in the precarious position of the vast unknown--small chance at being admitted to very top schools, and then mostly in an either/or position at the next few? Ahh, I guess that's why I never intend to be an admissions officer at a law school.

NYU :(
Thursday, October 20 2005 at 08:00 PM

Sorry about NYU :( I was pulling for you...does that mean Cornell for sure?

Monday, December 05 2005 at 07:00 PM

Their loss

Congrats on Penn
Tuesday, September 06 2005 at 08:00 PM

I'll most likely be seeing you in the fall, I was just wondering if you were told in the phone call today when we'll receive our official acceptances and additional info (I was told I would hear in "the next couple days").

Congrats on Penn
Saturday, March 18 2006 at 07:00 PM

I got the same phone call, so I understand how elated you were. See you there in the fall. :)