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# Law School Status Type $$$ Sent Received Complete Interview Date Decision Updated
Loyola Law School Waitlisted W Type: RA Sent: 11/06/06 Rec: 11/30/06 Comp: 12/07/06 Inter: -- Dec: 04/02/07 Upd: 15 years
University of the Pacific F Accepted W Type: RA $45,000 Sent: 11/13/06 Rec: 11/20/06 Comp: 12/04/06 Inter: -- Dec: 01/29/07 Upd: 15 years
University of California Hastings WL, Accepted W Type: RA Sent: 11/06/06 Rec: 11/08/06 Comp: 12/06/06 Inter: -- Dec: 03/21/07 Upd: 15 years
University of San Diego Accepted A Type: RA $48,000 Sent: 11/06/06 Rec: -- Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: 03/15/07 Upd: 15 years
Santa Clara University F Accepted W Type: RA Sent: 01/04/07 Rec: 01/17/06 Comp: 02/06/07 Inter: -- Dec: 04/27/07 Upd: 15 years
Southwestern University School of Law Accepted W Type: RA $85,000 Sent: 11/06/06 Rec: -- Comp: 11/30/06 Inter: -- Dec: 02/22/07 Upd: 16 years
University of California Davis Rejected Type: RA Sent: 01/08/06 Rec: 01/10/07 Comp: 02/06/07 Inter: -- Dec: 03/29/07 Upd: 16 years
University of San Francisco Accepted W Type: RA Sent: 11/06/06 Rec: 11/08/06 Comp: 12/06/06 Inter: -- Dec: 02/08/07 Upd: 16 years
University of Nevada Las Vegas Accepted W Type: RA $20,000 Sent: 11/06/06 Rec: -- Comp: 11/30/06 Inter: -- Dec: 01/29/07 Upd: 16 years
Thomas Jefferson School of Law Pending D W Type: RA Sent: 11/06/06 Rec: -- Comp: 11/30/06 Inter: -- Dec: -- Upd: 16 years

Applicant Information

  • LSAT: 165
  • LSAT 2: -
  • LSAT 3: -
  • GRE : -
  • LSAC GPA: 3.21
  • Degree GPA: 4.08
  • School Type: Private
  • Major: -

Demographic Information

  • City: -
  • State: California
  • Race: -
  • Gender: Woman
  • Non-Traditional Applicant: Yes
  • Years out of Undergrad: -

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Additional info & updates

HASTINGS versus UNIVERSITY OF SAN DIEGO- COMMENTS PLEASE!!!!!

Okay, now all of these people (including practicing lawyers) keep telling me that I am making a huge mistake by not going to Hastings over USD. Anyone have any comments on this issue of ranking and job opportunities versus quality of life now that they would basically cost the same? I haven't withdrawn from Hastings yet and would love some input!!!!

Just FYI for anyone on the Hastings waitlist, I send them a letter of interest and updated info on awards, stats, etc. They seem to respond pretty strongly to that sort of thing if you are hanging in limbo since it only took me three weeks to get in off the waitlist..

4/20-Decided on University of San Diego if Hastings and Loyola waitlists don't work out. I just came back from visiting and it was absolutely incredible!

Sent Deposits to Southwestern, USD, and Pacific to leave options open.

USD, Pacific, and UNLV Scholarship Amounts are over 3 yrs, 2nd and 3rd yrs contingent on being in top 1/3 of class

Southwestern Application is for 2 yr SCALE program- Full tuition 1st year, 2nd Year Full Tuition contingent on 3.3GPA

If anyone has any advice on how to decide between ranking and cost, please weigh in.

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san diego
Tuesday, November 29 2005 at 07:00 PM

Hi, Sorry, I haven't heard anything, I just sent it all and paid the fee. I applied last year and was waitlisted. The communication with them wasn't exactly proactive.

RE:Advice
Tuesday, August 15 2006 at 08:00 PM

Don't sell yourself short!. Gl with this cycle!

USD
Saturday, March 25 2006 at 07:00 PM

No they never let me know that I was complete. My complete date is the day they requested my LSDAS report. Good Luck!

USF
Saturday, November 04 2006 at 07:00 PM

They sent me an email.

USF x2
Saturday, November 04 2006 at 07:00 PM

Ditto. Email.

good luck!
Saturday, December 23 2006 at 07:00 PM

i guess you are like me...a cali kid at heart!

UNLV
Monday, December 18 2006 at 07:00 PM

Congrats on UNLV and scholarship :) and Pacific

What?~
Monday, November 13 2006 at 07:00 PM

How on EARTH did you get deffered at a crappy school like THomas Jefferson with your numbers?

Ridiculou
Monday, November 13 2006 at 07:00 PM

that is the lamest thing ever. F*ck TJ school of crappy law. They should be THROWING money at you.

deciding...
Wednesday, November 15 2006 at 07:00 PM

Hey, thanks for the note. I am having a really hard deciding where to go right now as well. I know ranking is important to consider, however, I have decided that outside of the top twenty (which I will not be attending, as I didn't get in to any top 20 schools!) I am considering schools based on region and programs. Also, I am considering the reputation the schools have within the region, thus why USF and Southwestern have been eliminated and I am still considering Pepperdine and SCU. Money's also an issue, but I REALLY love Pepperdine, so I might just have to deal with loans. Honestly, I think it will come down to Pepp, Loyola, USD (if I get in there) and DU. DU gave me a lot of money, but I am from this region and attend school in this region right now, so I'm not sure if I want to stay here. So, basically, after writing a ton, I really have no idea where I will decide! Any suggestions? What are your terms for withdrawing?

UNLV
Monday, December 18 2006 at 07:00 PM

I just wanted to back up everything onepreciousgirly said about UNLV. I go to UNR now and Vegas is a HUGE difference from here and definitely from Tahoe. The people aren't as nice and the area around UNLV is scary, but the suburbs are nice. The cost of living is high compared to a lot of places but pretty much the same as Reno, and def lower than tahoe. I think the reason employment is so low is because its such a new school. I have a friend that is graduating from there this year and has had a job lined up since last summer. Plus the housing market is FINALLY crashing which is good if you're looking to buy a house. They're offering a lot of incentives. I know you didn't ask me but I figured I'd give my two cents :) How are you liking the snow today? My drive home was pretty much nuts, I bet Tahoe is a mess.

Leaning....
Friday, December 22 2006 at 07:00 PM

....toward USD right now. They probably have the lowest "net" tuition for me (depending on where Pacific and Pepperdine set their 07-08 tuition at)...they're the highest ranked school I'm in at so far, they inherently have a good hold on the SD market/access to the LA market, and SD is probably the best climate in the US......not to mention cheaper housing than Santa Barbara, LA or SF! Pepperdine is going to be pretty close tuition-wise, so they will definitely be a consideration. Hastings w/$$$ would be a consideration as well. And I'm not going to hold my breath on anyone above that. What about you?

Hi again
Wednesday, November 15 2006 at 07:00 PM

I too think Pacific and USF are comparable, but I withdrew from USF and have stayed on at Pacific soley because of money. However, I think I will withdraw from Pacific soon, as I don't really want to move to Sacramento. USF is a really good school though, I am just trying to eliminate schools. As for Southwestern, it is not ranked, which is my biggeset issue wtih it. I am sure it is a good school, but I think I have better choices (Pepperdine, for example). As for SCU, I love the location and they gave me money. That is why I am staying on there. Even if you are not interested in IP law I think the school is worth exploring. I hope this helps. Any thoughts on Pepperdine/Loyola/DU/Santa Clara/Lewis and Clark? I am freaking out and canot decide!

Hi again
Wednesday, November 15 2006 at 07:00 PM

I too think Pacific and USF are comparable, but I withdrew from USF and have stayed on at Pacific soley because of money. However, I think I will withdraw from Pacific soon, as I don't really want to move to Sacramento. USF is a really good school though, I am just trying to eliminate schools. As for Southwestern, it is not ranked, which is my biggeset issue wtih it. I am sure it is a good school, but I think I have better choices (Pepperdine, for example). As for SCU, I love the location and they gave me money. That is why I am staying on there. Even if you are not interested in IP law I think the school is worth exploring. I hope this helps. Any thoughts on Pepperdine/Loyola/DU/Santa Clara/Lewis and Clark? I am freaking out and canot decide!

-
Friday, October 20 2006 at 08:00 PM

Done!

Ranking v. Cost
Wednesday, February 07 2007 at 07:00 PM

Rankings DON'T MEAN JACK!!! Trust me. HIGHER RANKINGS DO NOT MEAN IT'S A BETTER SCHOOL. You are much better off going to Southwestern. Their SCALE program is excellent. I applied to the same program and I would just die to get in there. But unfortunately, my LSAT is way too low to even think of getting in there. But don't choose a school based upon rankings. Several schools are completely overrated. Make sure you look into the curve at the school, minimum GPA's, and talk to current students and alumni from the school before making your final decision. I made a decision strictly based upon ranking (at first) without getting all the facts and it was a completely huge mistake. So I'm giving you this advice, so you don't make the same mistake. Feel free to e-mail me if you wnat any other information.

Not so sure...
Wednesday, February 07 2007 at 07:00 PM

As far as USD or UoP or Hastings, I think I would advise you to go to Hastings, but I am no expert on any of those schools. I know about Southwestern quite well, since I'm from Los Angeles. But like I said, I made the MAJOR mistake of going to a school simply for the "rankings" without looking into the school itself. What you should do is look at the student handbook of each school (that should be available on each school's website) and check out the policies for minimum GPA's, curves, as well as attendance and any other policies you may care about. The first two are extremely important to consider. For example, at Kent, 35% of the students will receive less than a C. And 40-45% will receive a C+ or less. At this school, the minimum GPA to not be on probation is a 2.3. This means that around 40% of all first year students each Fall end up on probation. That's a pretty stupid and retarded way of doing things, don't you think? Especially when schools like Northwestern have curves that are B+. This means that your GPA is much higher at a school like Northwestern, regardless of whether you perform poorly or not. So I guess the best advice I can give you is to check those things out for yourself and then make your decision. That's why I say rankings are not everything. This really mean nothing at all. Lots of people make the mistake of going to a school, simply because it's higher ranked. If you can, speak to any current or alumni students at each of the schools you are considering and see how they like their experience. If you get negative feedback, it's probably not a school you'd want to attend. If you get positive feedback, it's probably one you should highly consider. Good luck and take care.

why tjsl deferred
Saturday, February 24 2007 at 07:00 PM

in case you are curious, or care, tjsl probably deferred you because your numbers are high enough that they figure you would go somewhere else, and want to save spaces for underachievers such as myself who won't have as many options. ;) oh, and san diego is *not cheaper than sf or LA* for me, cost is number 1, letter A, most important. atmosphere is second. if i'd thought about it, i would have applied to USD (doesn't mean i would have gotten in--did you SEE my LSAT?) to mix things up a bit. all of that said, i'm a small town guy so i'm gonna shack up on the beach, study my butt off and think about transferring if i don't like the school. i'm planning to work in the government out here in the boonies when i'm done, so ranking is really no issue as long as the school is ABA accreditted. that's what a local assistant attorney general told me. if you want to go work for a big firm and make huge money, then it will be easier if you go to a higher-ranked school. if you are going to be living in an area that has a growth market in terms of the need for legal servicing, then it also doesn't particularly matter either. 1. get good grades; graduate 2. pass bar

Davis
Thursday, October 19 2006 at 08:00 PM

Sorry to hear about Davis... they are really slow about everything they seem to do (including getting back to me based on financial aid, which is why I am waiting anyway). For my two cents, UoP and Southwestern are both very good schools and do a great job of preparing you to actually practice law. In their communities they are also both well respected and have a great network to help with finding a job after school (it may be harder if you are hoping to practice in Boston or NY however). Good luck with everything!

thanks!
Thursday, February 22 2007 at 07:00 PM

How'd you know that was my first choice? Congratulations on your acceptances btw =)

USD
Friday, December 22 2006 at 07:00 PM

Well, we did get into a lot of the same places after all. I've made my decision....USD! Granted, rankings play more of a roll depending on exactly what you want to do, but for me it's about keeping my options open. I wouldn't want to go too low, and close doors and paths before I've even started law school, and begun to get a better idea of where I want to head career-wise, and in what area. For me, I just couldn't couldn't choose to live in Sacramento over San Diego (USD) or Malibu/Santa Monica (Pepperdine), so I withdrew from Pacific as soon as I had those two sitting above it. And a large part of my decision was based on 1) I'll take living in San Diego over LA anyday, and 2)Even Pepperdine is a little buried in the LA market, with USC, UCLA and Loyola all ahead of it (and yes, I know about the new rankings, but Loyola has been up that high for a while). While USD has a pretty solid hold on the SD market, as well as access to the LA market.

waitlists
Friday, December 22 2006 at 07:00 PM

If UCLA takes me off their waitlist (not holding my breath), I'd have to seriously consider that, being a top-20 school. Hastings I was very interested in, but if they pulled me off the waitlist, I'd be much less likely to make that jump than UCLA. They probably wouldn't have any scholarship $$$ for me, it's super cut-throat, expensive city, small market for the number of law schools in the area, etc. So, again I say, it'd take something extraordinary to change my mind from USD. The faculty and students were great. I was supposed to be sitting in on a first-year class, but it was probably cancelled, because noone was around when there was only about 10 minutes before class. I bumped into a student coming out of her class that was about to start, and although she was unsure about what was going on with the class I was supposed to observe, she warmly invited me to sit in on her class, and introduced me to her professor, who was more than happy to have me join his class for the day. I talked with many students before the lecture started, at the breaks and for quite some time after the class ended. They were friendly, engaging, helpful and eager to help me answer any questions I had, as well as help me immerse into not only the USD community, but also the San Diego legal community.

loyola
Friday, December 29 2006 at 07:00 PM

hey i'm very shocked you got wait listed at loyola i hope you get in.. i think as of your choices right now USD is the way to go but hopefully loyola lets you in.. southwestern just isn't even in the top 2 tiers and la is pretty competitive with usc ucla and loyola already being there.. i guess more so then cost and ranking, you want to decide what you are looking for after law school.. if you want to get a good corporate job then maybe giving up some money to go to a better school is the way to go

re: USD!
Friday, December 22 2006 at 07:00 PM

Congrats! Feels good to finally be able to make a decision. I told you it was amazing there, but like many things (ah-hem, Tahoe) you have to see it to really know. There's a bunch of us incoming 1L's trying to get together for some dinner, drinks, whatever, once we get down there. Any thoughts as to when you're going to move? Anyway, congrats again, keep in touch, and we'll see you in the fall!

Choose Hastings!
Sunday, February 11 2007 at 07:00 PM

I'm going to USD in the fall but I would choose Hastings if I could. It has a much better reputation and lower tuition. I would also ask if they are willing to match your USD offer. I think that Hastings will likely throw some money your way since they took you off the waitlist that quickly. If you choose USD, you won't be the first. From what I've heard many people have taken USD over higher ranked schools. I wouldn't be one of them though. Nevertheless, USD is a great school and if you decide to go, I'll be seeing you there. Let me know what your final decision is.

Rest assured with your Decision!
Sunday, September 03 2006 at 08:00 PM

Yeah, after I visit USD and Hastings, I knew that USD was the school for me. This might be true for everyone but I just felt so much more comfortable at USD and living in San Diego than I felt when I toured Hastings in the heart of the tenderloin. People at USD seemed SO much happier, and while Hastings might be more prestigious, three years of a cut-throat atmosphere is not worth it to me. In addition, if you rank in the top 5-10% of USD, that is the same as the top 15-20% at Hastings and after the top of the class at either school, it doesn't really matter anymore. USD is the school to go to in San Diego and statewide it has a strong rep--many people just don't leave San Diego cuz they love it so much. Rest assured: staying with USD is a great choice, and I got a lot of shit for it too (especially for turning down BC) but for me I knew in my gut that it had programs I liked better, and that I would be happier/do better!

Quick Question about Hastings W/L
Thursday, March 15 2007 at 08:00 PM

Just a quick question, since I really want to get off the Hastings W/L...when you sent in your letter of interest + updated your awards and such, how did you go about doing it? Did you mail it to them through snail mail or send it via e-mail? I really want to go to Hastings, so any advice you could give would be greatly appreciated. PS Congradulations on all your acceptances!

Another Quick Question
Thursday, March 15 2007 at 08:00 PM

First off, thank you sooo much for your hasty reply! Secondly...I actually had two more quick questions. By unsolicited snail mail, you meant just through snail mail, right? lol. The second question that I had...was that I'm having a difficult time setting up the letter of interest, and I was wondering if you'd be at all willing to give me some hints or if I could look at your introduction into your letter of interest. If you'd be willing to do that, it would be EXTREMELY appreciated! Thanks in advance for whatever help you are able to give me and for the advice you've already given! =D

Thanks!
Thursday, March 15 2007 at 08:00 PM

Thanks for the advice! =D

congrats
Thursday, December 21 2006 at 07:00 PM

on usd! i was hoping to get off the hastings WL much like you did...got any helpful hints & tips for me? thanks.

usd!
Thursday, October 19 2006 at 08:00 PM

so you decided on USD! awesome. hastings ofr me just didn't sound like a good fit. what the hell is goign on with your page?? are you on the facebook group or lsd? find me jessie mackaness!