zbttoken (2021-2022)

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Application Information

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# Law School Status Type $$$ Sent Received Complete Interview Date Decision Updated
University of Denver Rejected Type: RA Sent: -- Rec: -- Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: -- Upd: 16 years
#2 Case Western Reserve University F Waitlisted Type: RA Sent: -- Rec: -- Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: -- Upd: 16 years
George Mason University F Rejected Type: RA Sent: -- Rec: -- Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: -- Upd: 16 years
#4 Hofstra University WL, Accepted A Type: RA Sent: -- Rec: -- Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: -- Upd: 16 years
Brooklyn Law School Rejected Type: RA Sent: -- Rec: -- Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: -- Upd: 16 years
#3 Chicago-Kent College of Law (IIT) Pending D Type: RA Sent: -- Rec: -- Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: -- Upd: 16 years
Cardozo-Yeshiva University Rejected Type: RA Sent: -- Rec: -- Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: -- Upd: 16 years
University of Wisconsin Madison Rejected Type: RA Sent: -- Rec: -- Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: -- Upd: 16 years
New York Law School Accepted W Type: RA Sent: -- Rec: -- Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: -- Upd: 16 years
#1 College of William and Mary Waitlisted Type: RA Sent: -- Rec: -- Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: -- Upd: 16 years
Georgetown University Rejected Type: RA Sent: -- Rec: -- Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: -- Upd: 16 years
University of Nevada Las Vegas Rejected Type: RA Sent: -- Rec: -- Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: -- Upd: 16 years
Marquette University Waitlisted W Type: RA Sent: -- Rec: -- Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: -- Upd: 16 years
Cleveland State University Accepted W Type: RA $4,000 Sent: -- Rec: -- Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: -- Upd: 16 years
Georgia State University Rejected Type: RA Sent: -- Rec: -- Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: -- Upd: 16 years
University of Cincinnati Rejected Type: RA Sent: -- Rec: -- Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: -- Upd: 16 years
Temple University Rejected Type: RA Sent: -- Rec: -- Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: -- Upd: 16 years
George Washington University Rejected Type: RA Sent: -- Rec: -- Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: -- Upd: 16 years
University of Miami Rejected D Type: RA Sent: -- Rec: -- Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: -- Upd: 16 years
William Mitchell College of Law Accepted W Type: RA Sent: -- Rec: -- Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: -- Upd: 16 years
Syracuse University Accepted W Type: RA Sent: -- Rec: -- Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: -- Upd: 16 years
University of New Hampshire School of Law Accepted W Type: RA Sent: -- Rec: -- Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: -- Upd: 16 years
Suffolk University Waitlisted W Type: RA Sent: -- Rec: -- Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: -- Upd: 16 years
DePaul University Rejected Type: RA Sent: -- Rec: -- Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: -- Upd: 16 years
University of Minnesota Twin Cities Rejected Type: RA Sent: -- Rec: -- Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: -- Upd: 16 years
University of Maryland Rejected Type: RA Sent: -- Rec: -- Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: -- Upd: 16 years
Northeastern University Rejected Type: RA Sent: -- Rec: -- Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: -- Upd: 16 years
Emory University Rejected Type: RA Sent: -- Rec: -- Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: -- Upd: 16 years
University of Pittsburgh Rejected Type: RA Sent: -- Rec: -- Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: -- Upd: 16 years
American University Rejected Type: RA Sent: -- Rec: -- Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: -- Upd: 16 years
Ohio State University Rejected Type: RA Sent: -- Rec: -- Comp: -- Inter: -- Dec: -- Upd: 16 years

Applicant Information

  • LSAT: 156
  • LSAT 2: -
  • LSAT 3: -
  • GRE : -
  • LSAC GPA: 3.22
  • Degree GPA: 3.21
  • School Type: Virginia Tech
  • Major: English and Psych

Demographic Information

  • City: Haymarket
  • State: Virginia
  • Race: Jew should=URM
  • Gender: Man
  • Non-Traditional Applicant: Yes
  • Years out of Undergrad: -

Extra Curricular Information

I am in the dual degree program.

I am a tutor at the Virginia Tech Writing Center (one semester for credit and every other semester after that as a volunteer).

I had a law internship during the summer of 2004.

I have been a member of Zeta Beta Tau for all 8 semesters of college.

Fraternity Positions Held: President, Vice President, Chairman of the Judicial Board , New Brother Advisor, Community Service and Philanthropy Committee Chairman, Housing Committee Chairman, Representative to IFC.

IFC Positions Held: Co-Chair of the Judicial Board.

Member of Phi Alpha Delta Pre-Law Fraternity.

Member of Hillel.

I worked 25 hours per week at Red Lobster during the academic year.

I worked about 80 hours per week over the summers.

I wrestled for a year for Virginia Tech (NCAA D-I).

I had bad freshman and sophomore year grades, but I pulled nearly a 4.0 during my last two years while taking 21-24 credits per semester. I hope some of these schools take that into consideration.

I also bench 315. Admissions officers should take that into consideration before I kick their asses. Oh, and as you can tell, I have a sense of humor too;)

Additional info & updates

Miami said they placed me in a hold category. Ahhhh, I'm falling into limbo. It came in a standard white envelope with one piece of paper in it.

I've never been the nervous type, but I get more nervous with each passing day.

LSDAS sucks. I probably blew my chances at a few law schools simply because they don't transmit the supplemental forms with the regular application even though you can fill them out online. The law school application process is frustrating.

I'm starting to get really worried. I got waitlisted at Hofstra. The news came in a slightly stuffed standard white envelope.

I waited too long to apply. I don't think I will get into any of my top 15 choices.

3/8 -- I saw online that Ohio State reached a decision today. I don't know what it is yet, but I think I have an idea. They came to a decision a little too quickly. My heart is in my throat.

3/12 -- I came back from Spring Break to find a nice surprise. I got into law school. I got an acceptance letter from William Mitchell. It came in a large white envelope. However, I also came back to find a letter from DePaul. They rejected me (standard white envelope). Screw you DePaul. This Jew doesn't want to further your gentile tradition anyway.

I'm really relieved to know I got in somewhere.

3/13 -- My previous fear was confirmed today. I got rejected at Ohio State. The response came in a standard white envelope.

3/20 -- After a week of not hearing anything, I got two letters today. I got a rejection from Maryland in a standard white envelope and an acceptance from Franklin Pierce Law Center in a stuffed standard white envelope.

3/22 -- I have not been officially rejected by Minnesota yet, but I realized that I told Minnesota that I really want to go to Georgetown in my personal statement. I'll be receiving my rejection soon.

3/23 -- I got into Syracuse!!! I am overjoyed. Big 9x12 envelope. I'm so excited...and I just can't hide it. I know, I know, I know, I know, I know I want to.

3/24 -- I lost just about all hope of going to school in my hometown of Washington, D.C. today. I got rejections letters from both American and George Mason. They both came in thin standard white envelopes. I knew as soon as they came.

3/25 -- Another rejection today. This time it was from Pitt. That's a bummer because I have a friend going there. It came in a thin standard white envelope. I'm noticing a trend of rejection forming...

3/29 -- Holy crap. I can't believe it. I only sent an application to William and Mary because it was in-state. I mean I never thought I had a chance. I never thought they would do anything except reject me. Some how, some way, I managed to get waitlisted. I'm in awe. I mean wow. I don't think I have a chance against the other people on the waitlist, but I still feel like it's an honor. The news came in a slightly stuffed standard white envelope. I also officially withdrew today from Franklin Pierce and William Mitchell.

3/30 -- I got rejected today from Northeastern. The news came in a standard white envelope. The letter was nice.

4/3 -- I got two letters today. They both came in standard white envelopes. The first one was a rejection from Emory, and the second one was a letter from Case Western informing me that I have fallen into the infamous "hold" category. I'm really disappointed about Case. I really wanted to go there. I'm not sure how many people they take off of hold.

You know something? There's something vastly unfulfilling about an empty mailbox these days...

4/5 -- I got an e-mail inviting me to New York Law School's open house for admitted students. I haven't received anything in the mail from them yet, so hopefully this message is a good indication of what is to come.

4/6 -- I still haven't received a letter in the mail, but I called NYLS this morning and learned that I have indeed been accepted.

4/7 -- It's official. I finally received my acceptance letter from NYLS. It came in a stuffed standard envelope. I am perplexed that I have received absolutely no scholarship money from anywhere.

I think that most of these law schools are done reviewing our applications but are only holding them until they know for sure that they have filled their classes with the students to which they have already mailed acceptances.

Ok, so I may have control issues. I skipped class today solely so that I could check my mail. Not knowing what I will be doing after graduation is really starting to mess with my head. I need to get responses so I can regain control over my life.

4/10 -- Since I skipped class to wait for my mail, I was rewarded with a very generic rejection letter from Minnesota. See above for why it came so quickly.

4/13 - I decided to withdraw from Syracuse today. I called them about reconsidering me for a scholarship, but they declined to do so. This fact coupled with the pressure to send in a deposit by April 15th propelled me to make this decision. Also, I was waitlisted today by Suffolk. WTF??? They can kiss my ass. The withdrawal notice is in the mail.

4/14 -- I received bad news today. A rejection from Miami in a standard envelope. However, I also received a deferral from Chicago-Kent. I really hope I get in.

4/20 -- I got rejected at GW today. I'm not surprised. Notice came in a standard white envelope.

4/21 -- I really, really, really wanted to go to Temple for their litigation program. I was very disappointed that I wasn't even waitlisted there. The news came in a standard white envelope.

4/24 -- Today's theme was Ohio. I received the fastest rejection letter of all time from Cincinatti today (standard white envelope). I also received my first scholarship offer from the election swing state. Cleveland State University accepted me with a $4,000 per year renewable scholarship. This definitely gives me something to think about, but I'm still leaning toward NYLS. The news came in a standard stuffed white envelope.

In other news, I am considering withdrawing my application from Hofstra. I think that I would be happy at NYLS, and I do not wish to create any unnecessary competition for those applicants who remain on the waiting list and have their hearts set on Hofstra. I will update my profile further if and when I decide to send notice of my withdrawal.

4/25 -- I checked on the Georgia State website and discovered a message that said "Admission not approved." I assume that the rejection letter is in the mail.

When I first began my law school search I was looking well into Tier I since I was scoring out on the LSAT prep tests at 165. After not doing well on the real test, I find that I may not even make it into any Tier II schools. I am severely distressed by this notion. However, I will not let my pride get the best of me. NYLS is a fantastic school, and I even think it is underrated. I am happy to say that I plan on sending my deposit in on Thursday, April 27 via overnight mail.

4/25 -- I received a phone call before class from a Hofstra official telling me they have a spot available for me. I am not sure if I want to go to Hofstra or NYLS now. However, i am still leaning toward NYLS.

4/26 -- Georgia State's rejection letter came today in a thin white envelope. They didn't even take the time to seal the letter properly. As such, the letter was glued to the envelope. Nice touch, GSU. Nice touch.

I also decided to withdraw from Cleveland State today. No offense to anybody at CSU, but I just like NYLS better.

4/27 -- I guess the end of April is the time for responses since I got four of them in the last couple of days. Marquette sent me notice today in a standard envelope that I have been placed on the waiting list. I promptly returned their form informing them I will be withdrawing my application. I also sent my deposit in for NYLS today. It's not completely final yet, but I'm probably going to Manhattan in the fall. Yay!!!

Unless someone can give me some advice about why I should not withdraw from Hofstra, then I will be doing that shortly as well.

4/29 -- I got rejected from UNLV today. The rejection came in a small white envelope. However, I would have chosen NYLS over UNLV anyway, so I didn't really care. It just would have been better for my ego if I had been accepted.

I thought that I would have heard back from more schools by now. I guess I was wrong.

5/3 -- Rejection from Georgetown. I really don't know what took them so long to reject me. The decision came in a small white envelope.

If anyone wants to shoot the breeze with me regarding law school, you can probably find me on www.lawschooldiscussion.org since I am now addicted to that website. I am listed under "zbttoken" at that website as well.

5/5 -- Well, after careful consideration, I decided to send in Hofstra's deposit as well. I will visit both NYLS and Hofstra in two weeks, and I will decide what I will do then. However, I really want to be in the city.

All of my friends are getting scholarships to my favorite schools and turning their offers down. I just want to get into these schools. That's all I'm asking for this summer season. I just want to get in.

It's almost a third of the way through May, and I have yet to receive a final decision from six schools (I am counting WLs as final decisions). All I can say is "Oy."

5/15 -- I got rejected from Cardozo today. This is definitely a devastating blow to me. The news came in a small white envelope.

5/19 -- Waitlisted at Case. They could have informed me sooner. I don't think I'll get in off of the waitlist, but I can hope. The news came in a thin white envelope.

5/30 -- Today is a sad day in the life of zbttoken. I got rejected by both Brooklyn and Wisconsin today. I really wanted to get into Brooklyn. The BLS rejection came in a standard white envelope. I never received a hard copy of my decision from Wisconsin. I called them up to check the status on my application, and they told me they would e-mail me the decision since it had already been reached. The rejection e-mail came two minutes later.

It looks like I will be attending Hofstra University School of Law in Fall 2006. Thank you all for your support.

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Miami
Sunday, January 29 2006 at 07:00 PM

I applied there during the first week of February and heard back from them in less than three weeks. At least they were lightning fast with their "you will now be stuck in the pits of hell" answer.

Hokies!
Monday, February 20 2006 at 07:00 PM

Woo! Go Hokies! I sure hope Miami doesn't leave you in limbo for too long. Congrats on getting into law school though!

Congrats
Saturday, October 22 2005 at 08:00 PM

Congrats on Franklin Pierce :)

Forever....
Monday, February 20 2006 at 07:00 PM

I am pretty sure these schools are just cashing our checks and rolling around in a pit of money. I can't imagine taking this long to mail an acceptance or a rejection! If this doesn't end soon, the mail lady will think I am stalking her.

bored looking at random profiles..
Wednesday, January 25 2006 at 07:00 PM

and i noticed you're asking if minneapolis is cool or not. i say: yes! it has a cosmopolitan character to a much greater extent than you'd think, and it's well maintained city with a lot of nature and smart people. you'd like it here.

case...
Monday, December 05 2005 at 07:00 PM

what the hell? did u see all those deferals? wow.

re: Congrats
Friday, December 09 2005 at 07:00 PM

thanks, i appreciate it. good luck at syracuse if that's where you end up going.

Hokies
Tuesday, January 17 2006 at 07:00 PM

I am in fact a fellow Hokie...which I can see isn't carrying enough weight in the decisions for most schools. It's frustrating to see how much depends on the LSAT, but worst case I think I'm going to Florida Coastal to perhaps transfer. Good Luck on your DC apps. Go Hokies!!!

NY LAW
Wednesday, February 08 2006 at 07:00 PM

Congrats on NY law also, as of now its my first choice, unless miami takes me off their waitlist...and of course until i get other responses from law schools...Don't u hate the month of april...i literally know exactly what time the mailwoman arrives everyday!lol...i'definitely can't go to roger williams, 0 chances of workin in big private sector...so unless i get into another school in the top 100 NY law here i come...but i'm originally from NY so it won't be the bad after all! Lets stay in contact...and by the way i luv ur jokes..LOL

NYLS over Cuse
Sunday, January 29 2006 at 07:00 PM

I'm leaning in that direction right now. I've heard some pretty negative things about Syracuse.

syracuse vs nyls
Tuesday, February 28 2006 at 07:00 PM

i think im leaning towards syracuse...mainly due to all the negative things ive heard from people's posts on lawschooldiscussion, friends who have visited, really high tuition and living costs, etc. i see the appeal of living in nyc, and potentially increased chances of working in the city, and finding a "biglaw" job (which everyone on here seems to want), but unless you plan on working 80+ hrs at a big law firm doing tax or corporate law or something, to pay off debt, i think syracuse is the safer bet, considering it also has better national recognition, and also provides opportunities to work in the city (i read about 40% of syracuse grads are employed in the city). i guess it depends on what type of law you want to practice, and how much debt you are willing to accumulate. also, syracuse just dropped out of the top 100, (ranked 95 last year), but is still better ranked than consistently 3rd tier NYLS.

Saturday, October 22 2005 at 08:00 PM

Sorry about GW kid...i still love ya

Case Def.
Thursday, October 27 2005 at 08:00 PM

How were you notified of your deferrment? I received a letter saying that I am on hold. Did yours state the same?

NYLS
Tuesday, December 06 2005 at 07:00 PM

Hey, I saw ur post to someone else that you think you are heading to NYLS. Right now, I think I am also. And btw, i agree, Jew should = URM! hahahaha

NYLS
Tuesday, December 06 2005 at 07:00 PM

Only someone jewish would agree that jew should = URM! It would be nice to meet more people, but I have no idea when I'm actually going to move to NYC. Are you already in NYC?

NYLS bound
Saturday, September 10 2005 at 08:00 PM

Have you decided to attend NYLS? I will be attending in the fall as well. Are you already in NYC? Any tips on finding an apartment?

NY
Tuesday, December 06 2005 at 07:00 PM

hey... i have no idea when i'm going to nyc bc to be honest right now im still wait listed and havent heard from a few schools. So i don't really know for sure where i will be next year. SO ANNOYING!!!

NY
Tuesday, December 06 2005 at 07:00 PM

I feel exactly the same way!!!

NYLS
Tuesday, December 06 2005 at 07:00 PM

After getting yet another rejection letter today, I can basically say, I'll be at NYLS.

NYLS
Tuesday, December 06 2005 at 07:00 PM

Please Please Please keep me updated on housing b/c i need to search also. I think i'm staying in DC for the summer, but will want to be in NYC sometime in August.

hofsta v nyls
Sunday, May 14 2006 at 08:00 PM

Hey why did you withdraw from NYLS?? Is the ranking that much different then hofstra bc i got in there too but i wanted to be in the city so i am leaning towards ny...let me know what happened

Hofstra
Tuesday, March 21 2006 at 07:00 PM

I'm glad that you chose Hofstra over NYLS, what helped you make the decision? Was it that they are so nice and helpful at Hofstra or was it the Campus vist?

NYLS
Tuesday, March 21 2006 at 07:00 PM

I read your comments about your visit to NYLS on LSD, I can't believe how unaccomodating they were. I would expect that from a somewhat more prestigious school but NYLS who are they?

nyls
Tuesday, December 06 2005 at 07:00 PM

wow.....i want to hear about nyls. email me!!

Hofstra
Tuesday, March 21 2006 at 07:00 PM

I am sorry to see that you were hit with a double dose of disappointment. Despite your disappointment, best of luck at Hofstra. I will be attending and I believe that there are many good opportunities for students that excel.

NYLS ARROGANCE
Tuesday, March 21 2006 at 07:00 PM

I received a very arrogant rejection letter from NYLS. I am not sure why I was rejected because I was above the presumptive admit number. Regardless, I am pleased that I was rejected. Their rejection letter was extremely arrogant for a T3 school. In contrast Fordham was much kinder and proactively recommended avenues for an appeal. Can you share your negative experience with me.

Kent
Thursday, May 24 2007 at 08:00 PM

I know this is really late but I was wondering if you ever heard from chicago kent?