icarus (2020-2021)

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Application Information

F - Fee Waiver, A - Attending, W - Withdrawn, D - Deferred
# Law School Status Type $$$ Sent Received Complete Decision Updated
CUNY Queens College graph Rejected 10/01/07 -- -- 07/07/08 12 years
Pace University graph Waitlisted W 10/01/07 -- -- 01/14/08 12 years
Northeastern University graph Waitlisted W 10/01/07 -- -- 04/09/08 12 years
St. John's University graph Accepted W SP 10/01/07 -- -- 04/16/08 13 years
Temple University graph Rejected 10/01/07 -- -- 01/15/08 13 years
Tulane University graph Rejected 10/01/07 -- -- 03/25/08 13 years
University of Connecticut graph Rejected 10/01/07 -- -- 01/28/08 13 years
University of Denver graph Rejected 10/01/07 -- -- 05/08/08 13 years
1 University of Miami graph Accepted A 10/01/07 -- -- 12/10/07 13 years
New York University graph Rejected 11/01/07 -- -- 02/26/08 13 years
Rutgers State University Newark graph Rejected 10/01/07 -- -- 02/04/08 13 years
Rutgers State University Camden graph Rejected 10/01/07 -- -- 02/07/08 13 years
Boston College graph Rejected 10/01/07 -- -- 12/14/07 13 years
Harvard University graph Rejected 11/01/07 -- -- 02/22/08 13 years
Georgetown University graph Rejected ED 10/01/07 -- -- 12/10/07 13 years
Fordham University graph Rejected 10/01/07 -- -- 12/18/07 13 years
Florida International University graph Accepted W 03/01/07 -- -- 08/01/07 13 years
Cornell University graph Rejected 11/01/07 -- -- 12/27/07 13 years
Columbia University graph Rejected 11/01/07 -- -- 02/13/08 13 years
Brooklyn Law School graph Rejected 10/01/07 -- -- 02/05/08 13 years
Hofstra University PT graph Accepted W 10/01/07 -- -- 03/04/08 13 years

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Demographic Information

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Extra Curricular Information

My cycle is over and I'm thrilled. I'm gonna be a 1L at the University of Miami School of Law in the Fall. Hooray! :-)


I put up this profile to show that there's hope for people with aweful LSATs and high GPAs like me. I'm an odd case, I got a 142 and have no intention of ever retaking that exam. I always do terribly on these types of standardized tests. But even with 4.0 GPAs and two Ivy League masters degrees, it's an uphill battle... Yet I'm glad with the outcome because I want to move to Florida.

Visitor Comments

  • Congrats!
  • Friday, January 25 2008 at 10:38 AM

Your profile is very inspirational! I'm in a similar boat, high GPA and low LSAT...totally frustrating! Quick question - Did you interview at Pace? Good Luck with your pending applications!

- krslaw
  • Thanks
  • Friday, January 25 2008 at 11:06 AM

Nope. I'm not doing the open interview at Pace. I'm not planning to attend there. But if I did, I'd definitely do it.

- icarus
  • Luck
  • Saturday, February 02 2008 at 10:03 AM

Good luck with everything, looks like south Floridian schools really like you.

- collage
  • Thanks
  • Sunday, February 03 2008 at 03:32 PM

Thanks for the posting and congrats for getting accepted at the University of Miami. I am not sure where I am going to end up but so far Miami is my top choice. Keep in touch.....Best,

- latino08
  • UM
  • Sunday, February 03 2008 at 05:04 PM

Did you receive any scholarship from UM? Are you applying to their summer program? Best,

- latino08
  • Reply
  • Monday, February 04 2008 at 04:37 AM

Hey Latino08-- No school is gonna give a scholarship to anyone with an LSAT below 150. That's just the reality. But I did apply to the summer program and you should too. That's one of the great things about UM. What's your first choice?

- icarus
  • Reply
  • Monday, February 04 2008 at 04:39 AM

Hey Latino08-- No school is gonna give a scholarship to anyone with an LSAT below 150. That's just the reality. But I did apply to the summer program and you should too. That's one of the great things about UM. What's your first choice?

- icarus
  • congrats!
  • Monday, February 04 2008 at 05:13 AM

I wanted top show u some love here. Im glad you were able to get into a great school. I wish you the best during this process and i sincerely hope you get into the school you want. MIAMI is not a bad place to be if all else fails, but im sure you have many acceptances on the way! Good luck and congrats so far!

- dominrrican
  • Thanks!!!
  • Monday, February 04 2008 at 05:26 AM

Hey Dominrrican, thanks so much for the encouragement! In response, all I can say is that I am absolutely thrilled that I got into UM. It is by far my first choice and I love Miami. So I honestly don't care how the rest of my applications end up. But best wishes with your schools and thanks for spreading sunshine on this site!!

- icarus
  • maybe i'm an idiot
  • Monday, February 04 2008 at 11:21 AM

BUT....... I didn't know that there were PUBLIC IVY LEAGUE SCHOOLS?

- hey
  • Thankssss!
  • Monday, February 04 2008 at 11:23 AM

Aw thanks for stopping by and congrats on your acceptances as well! You're an inspiration, standardized testing is so frustrating because it doesn't really prove that the next person is any smarter! So are you really considering Miami?

- carlyk
  • Thanks
  • Monday, February 04 2008 at 03:51 PM

Thanks carlyk for your kind words. I agree. The LSAT is frustrating and guys/gals like us shouldn't be penalized for not being good at them. But I am lucky because I am so happy that I'm going to Miami. It's a great school. Everyone on this site should know, however, that with a 142 LSAT the ONLY way to have a chance anywhere is to have straight A grades-- and even then it's a struggle. In response to the previous post from "hey" -- my undergrad was at a public college. My masters degrees are from Ivy League schools. Just to clarify.

- icarus
  • Hello there
  • Tuesday, February 05 2008 at 01:53 PM

How are you doing? Thanks for the congrats... Believe me, you're an inspiration yourself, and a lot of us on here hold high regard for you. I have no doubt that you have more great news on your way. The most of important thing is the fact that we 're going to law school no matter what.

- haitian
  • good luck
  • Tuesday, February 05 2008 at 07:50 PM

Thanks for your comment. Congrats on acceptances! Good luck with upcoming notices.

- stefan513
  • Thank you!
  • Wednesday, February 06 2008 at 05:12 AM

I'm glad I can give hope to other people, that's why I decided to post my numbers. And I'm very proud that you have a range of schools also :) Congrats on your acceptance to Miami!

- pbe011
  • Congrats on Miami
  • Wednesday, February 06 2008 at 08:50 AM

I just got my letter of accecptance from the University of Miami ....... although I do not have a 4.0 my latter grades were close..... and I also have an Ivy Masters ..... I-d like to e-mail and chat some............

- kingfish
  • FIU
  • Wednesday, February 06 2008 at 09:37 AM

Hello fellow low LSAT score getter... LOL Why were you wait listed at FIU? You have 2 masters degrees?

- GuyFawkes777
  • Waitlist
  • Wednesday, February 06 2008 at 11:39 AM

Hey GuyFawkes777, in response to your question about FIU. I applied late, in March 2007. They waitlisted me and took until the very last second (August) before I got the call. FIU has BEAUTIFUL facilities. I just visited there. But the problem is A) I don't drive and B) job opportunities are completely limited to the area. If those things don't concern you, it's the best place in terms of low tuition, pretty campus, nice faculty. Best of luck with your application.

- icarus
  • Thanks!
  • Wednesday, February 06 2008 at 04:20 PM

Hey! Thanks for the encouraging words. I'm not a good taker of standardized tests either-but stay strong keep your heard up!!

- rizzoj3
  • FIU
  • Wednesday, February 06 2008 at 04:21 PM

Thanks for the reply. My application went to the committee about 10 days ago; hopefully not to late. So, you didnt hear anything between March and August? I am terrible on stand, tests to. Didnt break 800 on the SAT. I live in FL and hope to get in at FIU. Not sure the score is good enough...

- guyfawkes777
  • Congrats on Miami!
  • Thursday, February 07 2008 at 06:43 AM

The LSAT tells us nothing..too much emphasis put on it. Are you going to attend Miami?

- pwhiteh2
  • Thanks pwhiteh2!
  • Thursday, February 07 2008 at 06:59 AM

Thanks pwhiteh2 for your encouragement. I agree, it really doesn't make sense that an entire record of achievement should be cancelled out by a one day standardized test. But I'm lucky. Miami is my first choice school and I'm really happy about it.

- icarus
  • FIU
  • Friday, February 08 2008 at 09:18 AM

Did you apply for the PT or FT program when you got waitlisted? Did they advise you of the waitlist via mail or email?

- guyfawkes777
  • Waitlist
  • Friday, February 08 2008 at 02:46 PM

With FIU, I didn't get any communication when I was on the waitlist. No email. Just a letter. It took forever to hear back from them.

- icarus
  • FIU
  • Friday, February 08 2008 at 02:58 PM

No, what I meant was, did you get a letter in May of 07, saying you were waillisted? You applied in march. They couldnt have waiting until August to notify you. Did you apply for full or part time??

- guyfawkes777
  • Fulltime
  • Friday, February 08 2008 at 06:04 PM

I applied fulltime. I got the waitlist letter around May but didn't hear the outcome until first week of August. Let me know if there's anything else you'd like to know. Cheers.

- icarus
  • Miami
  • Tuesday, February 12 2008 at 09:45 PM

Nicely done Icarus. Congrats on Miami.

- CrimLawHispanic
  • Thanks
  • Friday, February 15 2008 at 08:50 AM

Thanks for the message...and yeah, I hope I can encourage splitters like us not to loose hope. Good luck with the remaining schools and I hope you end up @ the school of your choice. Cheers!

- Rutgers4me
  • Keepin hope alive
  • Friday, February 15 2008 at 06:07 PM

Thanks for the kind words, but remember even though you struggled on the LSAT, you have a SPECTACULAR GPA to offset that score. I'm keeping my fingers crossed, but I don't have a good feeling about it right now. They have a very competitive pool this cycle, and a number of people with credentials that are higher than mine are flatly getting rejected. We'll see..........

- inquisitivemale
  • FIU
  • Tuesday, February 19 2008 at 03:23 PM

Did you apply for full or part time?

- guyfawkes777
  • Good luck
  • Thursday, February 21 2008 at 09:29 PM

Keep your head about having a low LSAT score. It really is one of the hardest conceivable exams for many people, not just you.

- TheAmericanDream
  • FIU
  • Friday, February 22 2008 at 05:14 AM

Icarus: Did you get waitlisted or deferred at FIU? I got my deferral letter yesterday and they say there are only 3 options for the committee to make during the first round of selection; accept, hold for further consideration, and deny. Is it possible that you got deferred and not waitlisted? I am wondering which is better, to the extent that one is better...

- guyfawkes777
  • Not Deferred
  • Friday, February 22 2008 at 05:34 AM

Hey guyfawkes777, in response to your question-- I was originally waitlisted, not deferred, at FIU, to their fulltime program. It is better to be waitlisted than deferred because deferral simply means they can't decide now and will do so later. Waitlist is one step up. But really, you shouldn't have yourself set on just one school. This game is arbitrary. And they will not conntact you until a long, long time from now. I'd say July or August... Good luck.

- icarus
  • Respond
  • Tuesday, February 26 2008 at 05:29 AM

Ehh thanksgo us low-lsat people I guess ;o Its sad how the results of a ONE day exam, so largely trump our GPA which took years of hard work and consistency. That one exam has drastically changed the course of our futuresdepressing when you look at it that way, no? Im just happy Im insomewhere! Good luck on the rest of your applicationsand congrats on your acceptances.

- cupcakegal
  • Retake please!
  • Wednesday, February 27 2008 at 05:07 AM

Man, you should retake. Get a private tutor and apply next cycle. If you bring up your LSAT 20 points - which is totally possible, especially given your past academic history - you would have so many more options. Don't be stupid about it.

- Theagitator
  • You're not stupid...
  • Thursday, February 28 2008 at 08:28 AM

...so why make a stupid decision? Study for the LSAT and take it again. You have an awesome GPA. You stand to get a ton of money if you pull your score up. It is doable. Change your attitude. Retake the test. Seriously. I hate to see someone make such a big mistake. Congrats on Miami anyway. Good luck if you decide to stick it out.

- Anotheragitator
  • My Reply
  • Thursday, February 28 2008 at 10:37 AM

I agree that the outcome of my applications would be very different if I retook the LSAT and got a higher score. However, there are two factor that haven't been taken into consideration by the advice in the previous post: #1) If I take the next LSAT in June, I won't get to start until 2009 and I don't want to wait that long. And #2) there seems to be a lot of people on this site that think it's either Top 14 schools or bust. I have already been a student at those schools, so I'm no longer impressed by them. And besides, I want to be in Miami. So I see no reason to waste a year and stay in the frigid Northeast... I do agree, though, that scholarships would be more available if my LSATs were up. But thanks for your advice nonetheless...

- icarus
  • Thursday, February 28 2008 at 09:42 PM

Assuming you have no real career options, you got accepted. Just go! You beat the odds. You could do worse and then citing multiple low scores might chill your chances. Don'tr look a gifted horse...

- Professor Retired
  • Thank you and Congrats!
  • Saturday, March 01 2008 at 11:02 AM

Thanks for the comment. I see you've gotten a couple acceptance letters. Congrats! I'm hoping for the same.

- workingman08
  • thanks
  • Friday, March 07 2008 at 07:22 AM

Thanks foryour posting. Good luck to you, I am hoping that something comes through for me. I really don't want to sit for the LSAT again either as I don't do well on standardized tests. It sucks though, because I feel like the fact that I busted my butt all through undergrad to get a 3.85 and it not matter because I have a low LSAT. Whereas I see people with low GPAs and high LSATs getting in at a ton of places. Good luck in Florida! I'd love it if I could go to Florida but family obligations limit my choices.

- mlieggi
  • Monday, March 10 2008 at 02:52 PM

Thanks for the vote of encouragement right back to you also!

- halletippy
  • Thanks
  • Wednesday, March 12 2008 at 10:15 PM

Thanks for the comments. Trying to keep it positive. Best of luck to you!

- crissylawyer2be
  • Thanks
  • Friday, March 14 2008 at 08:52 PM

Thanks for your posting. Applying to law school is such a tumultuous task! I hope I get in somewhere and make all this worthwhile. Congrats on Miami! I applied there too. Hope to see u there.

- HopefulOne
  • Thanks a lot
  • Saturday, March 15 2008 at 08:07 AM

I appreciate your kind words. Yea, KU and SLU were big time long shots for me, I was surprised Hopefully this can serve as an inspiration to people that feel as if they have no chance. I'm gonna have some real tough decisions to make here soon concerning seat deposits. Congrats on Miami!! FIU is my #1 choice, the waiting continues....

- inquisitivemale
  • Congrats!
  • Saturday, March 15 2008 at 02:02 PM

Congrats on your acceptances and good luck at Univ. of Miami!!

- lookingforanswers
  • Congrats!
  • Saturday, March 15 2008 at 02:02 PM

Congrats on your acceptances and good luck at Univ. of Miami!!

- lookingforanswers
  • Congrats!
  • Saturday, March 15 2008 at 02:03 PM

Congrats on your acceptances and good luck at Univ. of Miami!!

- lookingforanswers
  • thank you:)
  • Sunday, March 16 2008 at 11:32 AM

thanks for the cheer......you got in to Hofstra that is so great....even part time......did you apply pt or they offered that to you?

- jh1662
  • FIU-UM
  • Sunday, March 16 2008 at 05:59 PM

To answer your question, i think UM is awesome. But I dont think it is over 20k/year better than FIU. Also, early on in the cycle I didn't apply because I didn't think i could get in. But in reality, I could never afford UM. As for as FIU's placement outlook: They have only been fully accredited since fall '06, so it is hard judge them at this point. But from what I've read so far about their recent graduates, they are placing people in solid positions. FIU is an up and coming law school, and I would go as far to say that it is a better long-term investment than UM is, as it continues to grow. The in-state tuition and the fact that FIU is already a tier 3 while still being in its infancy stages is what makes it my #1 choice, I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

- inquisitivemale
  • HI
  • Thursday, March 20 2008 at 10:23 AM

So how did you hear from UM?

  • Thanks
  • Thursday, March 20 2008 at 12:49 PM

Thanks for the Congrats on Penn State. Many people say that we have no chance at many schools because of our LSAT scores but, both of us show that it is still possible to go to a great school with a low LSAT score

- aroz
  • SO TRUE!
  • Thursday, March 20 2008 at 04:06 PM

It's so true! We should all be giving hope to guys and gals out there with LSATs in the 140s. It doesn't always mean no law school or only Tier 4 law schools. I've noticed on this site that some really good options have given people like us exceptions. Just a couple include all over the country: Univ of Indiana at Indianapolis, Seatle Univ., Loyola New Orleans, Penn State, etc. I wish everyone who wants to go to law school all the best!

- icarus
  • Congratulations!
  • Sunday, March 23 2008 at 06:24 AM

fellow Brooklynite. Your academic success certainly isn't reflected by your LSAT score. What's impressive is that you didn't let that get in your way of going to a good law school. You and I are complete opposites, I have a pretty good LSAT but an EMBARASSING GPA. I think, in all honesty, that your GPA is more indicative of hard work and ability to do well than my LSAT score. In any case, you are headed for great things bro. Best of luck on everything man! Represent Brooklyn in FL! lol

- philzaga
  • Tuesday, March 25 2008 at 06:27 PM

tough to say...nearly every school I applied to has strong programs in the fields of law which I am interested in. Plus each location presents a great place to live. How about you? I feel your pain with the LSAT score btw.

- tpako
  • fiu
  • Saturday, March 29 2008 at 06:33 PM

Icarus you give me hope. The LSAT for me was the worst, and my gpa is very low due to a medical issue i dealt with. I am hoping by my subsequent masters and my job etc, i can show i have overcome my medical condition.

- lillian
  • Miami
  • Sunday, March 30 2008 at 05:39 AM

Congrats on Miami! Did you attend the Admitted Students Day by any chance? Beautiful campus and the faculty look top notch. Maybe I'll be seeing you in August!

- blar
  • thanks
  • Sunday, March 30 2008 at 12:09 PM

Thank yu for your kind words of encouragement. I have visited the schools and met some of the admissions people. They were very nice and understanding. I know they go through hundreds of apps. Now i am just taking advice i read time and time again to sit back and chill. Let us all know where you are going :-) Good luck to you!!!

- lillian
  • hit me up
  • Sunday, March 30 2008 at 04:48 PM

congrats to you too. were you there this weekend? IM me whenever: zdstealth. Or you can find me on myspace: /zdstealth

- zdstealth
  • Chat
  • Sunday, March 30 2008 at 06:26 PM

Sure, sounds good! I left my email so just send me a message sometime. I will give you my AIM screenname if you use that program as well.

- blar
  • Thanks!
  • Sunday, March 30 2008 at 08:16 PM

You are definitely correct about that one! One should never be discouraged. You can always say you tried! Im excited about INDY LAW!

- dominrrican
  • Miami
  • Thursday, April 10 2008 at 06:12 PM

Hey, someone else who did good in college but not so great on the LSAT. At least Miami seems to be one school that values your grades more. I've got to start hunting for housing soon. You can view my email on this comment when you log in. Send me your myspace page so I can send a friend request. I'd just rather not post my myspace page on here for everyone on the internet to see.

- invertshadow
  • congrats!
  • Monday, April 21 2008 at 05:23 AM

On your acceptances and the end of your cycle. Good luck in law school.

- mlieggi
  • Congrats
  • Monday, April 21 2008 at 06:48 AM

I am the same as you, I got a 149, beucase i walked in without any prep and no intention of re-taking the test. I have a 3.94 GPA and I hope I get into Florida Coastal. Good luck to you!!! I know you will do well, your GPA shows that!

- jaxlawgirl
  • Friday, May 02 2008 at 08:13 AM

Thanks for the encouragement and kind thoughts. You reminded me to be patient and persevere. Your profile inspires too! Best of luck!! Crissy

- crissylawyer2be
  • Case
  • Friday, May 02 2008 at 08:28 AM

Ya I hear you about the LSAT. I truly believe that it does not reflect your abillity to do well in law school. Personally I work so hard in college to get good grades and I have a ridiculously hard major and the LSAT does not reflect my hard work. Good luck to you and stay positive! You have an amazing GPA!!

- h3000
  • Hi
  • Wednesday, May 07 2008 at 03:23 PM

Hi icarus, Please send me an e-mail. Let's chat further. You received an acceptance from Miami. That is a good law school. Are you from Florida? Thanks for your kind words Icarus. I look forward to hearing from you.

- CrimLawHispanic
  • congrats on st. johns
  • Wednesday, May 07 2008 at 03:28 PM

You got into the special program at St. Johns? Congrats! What is that program like? I am just curious.

- CrimLawHispanic
  • Interesting
  • Thursday, May 08 2008 at 09:14 AM

Hey thanks for the comment. Being from the west coast, getting used to the idea of Northeastern has been a little bit slow in coming but it's grown on me considerably. I think I lucked out though, and laid a lot out on the line with my application--I didn't expect to be accepted at all. Even at the law school forum, I spoke with their representative who told me that it could be a stretch to get in with the LSAT I had. I just applied anyway and got some good news. I think that since I am applying from the west they took a little more time, perhaps because they don't get many small-town Arizona applicants. There are some prosecutors here who went to U Miami and they loved it. They're also among the more interesting people in the local court system.

- sbrownla
  • FIU
  • Saturday, May 24 2008 at 08:52 PM

In at FIU! Couldn\'t be more happy.

- guyfawkes777
  • UM
  • Sunday, June 08 2008 at 07:33 PM

Hi, I was wondering if you could point me in the direction of where I can find information about UM\'s Summer Program and what it entails. I\'d really appreciate it as I can\'t seem to locate it on the school\'s website. Thanks~Amber

- Amber
  • st johns
  • Monday, September 15 2008 at 10:56 AM

congrats on everything! you are indeed an inspiration! what program did you apply for at st. john's? im dying to go there lol hit me up on email..i have yet to make a profile... although im late...i hope you are enjoying your first weeks as a 1L...

- niki
  • congrats
  • Friday, January 09 2009 at 06:38 AM

congrats on your acceptance to UM LAW. I am in the same position that you were in. Please let me know how you wrote your addendum to address your high achievements and low scores on standerdized tests. Regards, EJ

- EJ

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