|#||Law School||Status||Type||$$$||Sent||Received||Complete||Interview Date||Decision||Updated|
|#1||University of San Diego||Waitlisted W||Type: RA||Sent: 10/03/05||Rec: --||Comp: 10/10/05||Inter: --||Dec: --||Upd: 17 years|
|#1||American University||Waitlisted W||Type: RA||Sent: 10/03/05||Rec: --||Comp: 10/10/05||Inter: --||Dec: 03/23/06||Upd: 17 years|
|#5||Seattle University||Rejected D||Type: RA||Sent: 10/03/05||Rec: --||Comp: 10/10/05||Inter: --||Dec: 05/22/06||Upd: 17 years|
|#6||Gonzaga University PT||Accepted W||Type: RA||$5,500||Sent: 10/03/05||Rec: --||Comp: 10/10/05||Inter: --||Dec: 12/23/05||Upd: 17 years|
|#4||Santa Clara University||Pending D W||Type: RA||Sent: 10/03/05||Rec: --||Comp: 10/10/05||Inter: --||Dec: --||Upd: 17 years|
|#3||Chapman University||Waitlisted W||Type: RA||Sent: 12/18/05||Rec: --||Comp: 01/31/06||Inter: --||Dec: --||Upd: 17 years|
|#1||Lewis and Clark College||Accepted D A||Type: RA||Sent: 10/15/05||Rec: --||Comp: 11/01/05||Inter: --||Dec: 05/04/06||Upd: 17 years|
|#3||California Western School of Law||Accepted||Type: RA||Sent: 10/03/05||Rec: --||Comp: 10/10/05||Inter: --||Dec: 05/04/06||Upd: 17 years|
|#4||Southwestern University School of Law||Rejected||Type: RA||Sent: 10/03/05||Rec: --||Comp: 10/10/05||Inter: --||Dec: 04/28/06||Upd: 17 years|
|#5||University of Oregon||Waitlisted W||Type: RA||Sent: 10/03/05||Rec: --||Comp: 10/10/05||Inter: --||Dec: 03/07/06||Upd: 17 years|
|#6||Whittier Law School||Accepted W||Type: RA||$5,000||Sent: 12/16/05||Rec: --||Comp: 12/22/05||Inter: --||Dec: 02/13/06||Upd: 17 years|
|#6||Golden Gate University||Accepted W||Type: RA||$5,000||Sent: 10/03/05||Rec: --||Comp: 10/10/05||Inter: --||Dec: 03/04/06||Upd: 17 years|
|#4||University of San Francisco||Rejected||Type: RA||Sent: 10/03/05||Rec: --||Comp: 10/10/05||Inter: --||Dec: 02/06/06||Upd: 17 years|
|#1||University of Washington||Rejected||Type: RA||Sent: 10/03/05||Rec: --||Comp: 10/10/05||Inter: --||Dec: 02/04/06||Upd: 17 years|
|#4||University of Miami||Rejected||Type: RA||Sent: 10/15/05||Rec: --||Comp: 11/10/05||Inter: --||Dec: 12/15/05||Upd: 17 years|
|#1||University of Texas Austin||Rejected||Type: ED||Sent: 10/03/05||Rec: --||Comp: 10/10/05||Inter: --||Dec: 12/04/05||Upd: 17 years|
I have a co-worker that is supposed to be receiving a call from the outgoing Dean at USD tomorrow (5/24/2005). He is going to find out about their waitlist system, since according to the letter they sent me, they "do not rank [their] waitlist applicants."
just been working, going to the beach, and applying to law schools. i was definitely really happy to hear yes from miami, best of luck to you
I'm sure you're correct in assuming they only looked our lsat scores and gpa's when making the decision to reject us. I had a great p.s., several letters of recommendations, and fairly good extracurriculars. I guess we just didn't fall within thier required range of numbers to warrant any consideration of other parts of our applications.
my #'s brotha.....yes, i am indeed crazy. Yet I see that we are in identical situations thus far (texas rejects, santa clara deferrals) and i cant help but feel that you have better decision-making abilities than i do. nonetheless, my reasoning is such: I want to go to a good school, i can suceed at a good school, the only thing keeping me from doing so is this admissions process. so what i will do is try this crazy plan this year...the money is worth the dream, plus im a (evidently bad) gambler... and if i dont get in this year i will re-take the lsats like yourself and try again. if it dont work, well i guess ill find something to do.
I wish you all the luck in your application to law school. wish you a happy new year.
congrats! spokane isn't too bad, it has 4 seasons...seattle doesn't even have that.
thanks for your message :) I've been in love with the SD area for years now...feels good to know I could move there now if I wanted to! I absolutely love L&C and USD but they are chances slim to none. Funny, I took Russian for two semesters at my first UG, idiot idiot...not nearly has difficult as Chinese but what was I thinking!? I enjoyed it but not the grades I earned..I wish you luck this cycle!
no...haven't thought about NOVA...if i stay in FL i would rather it be Stetson since I already live here...if they will have me, that is.
Hey again. I saw that u were leaning TJSL on SCDIMB's site. NOOO!! Go to CWSL. There is the best sushi you have ever had about 4 blocks away. We're talking 16 pieces and a salad/soup for $10. It's awesome. What more reason do you need? haha
sorry about seattle, hopefully they will see the light (through all the rain, ha...sorry) and let you in!
Hang in there. I can feel your pain as I read your "addtl info" column. You are not alone, trust me! I think I owe the SCU nod to a great LOR that was written especially for them which also explained my work experience. I applied more than once: the first PS was about IP, so yes, they knew I wanted to get in for that. Try to touch on all aspects of yourself (academic, work, family, background, etc.) somewhere in your app whether it is through your PS, LORs, or addendums. Hope that helps. :)
Thanks for your reply. I sent you an email. Best fo luck to you, and take care!
i went complete in late november. i applied to both day and night, but i got slotted in the night. i am trying to appeal to get fulltime status. i have not decided where to go, i am still waiting for the other letters to come. also, im sure it doesnt look like t, but i am positive i got in on numbers alone. i took the lsat twice, the 2nd time i got 160. i am sure they were looing at my 2nd score. the rest of my app was only avg.
...app hint, and congrats on Gonzaga (Miami obviously doesn't know talent...screw being "keen") Perhaps we'll both sit in torts at Santa Clara or L&C. Best of luck !
We have similar numbers. I just called Miami and said they are going to "hold" my application. I guess that means I'm deferred. Did this happen to you last year? What exactly does it mean? Did you send them additional letters, recs, etc? Is there anything you'd recommend I do?
I have also been hastily adding "safety schools" to my list. Unfortunately, my numbers don't alow me to have any real guaranteed shots! Good Luck with yuor apps!!
I'm a west coast type of person, so no more UVA for me. I grew up in CA. Anyway, I'm liking Pacific or Pepperdine so far. Have you heard anything about them good or bad? Where are you looking at thus far?
southwesterns campus is gorgeous, so beaultiful i could melt....the library anyways. the library is a refurbished art deco dept store, words cant do it justice, even if you dont go there, take a tour when your in la youll be floored. the classrooms though are old and ugly. all lecture style, no wifi access in them. the classrooms ar ein a building adjascent ot the library. the library is the showpiece, the westmoreland building is the classroom bldg, and it is strictly utilitarian. sw itself is in korea town, it borders a real poor dicey area of downtown la, but also borders the ritsy area to, it kinda stradles both. thanks on usd! i know i got lucky, but whatever, i take what i can get, if im in, im in! im appealing for ft status, but hopefullt ill get in loyola!
I like your comments. You seem like an okay guy. GL to ya.
Hi! First of all.....GOOD LUCK with your apps! Second off can you explain the difference between being deferred and being waitlisted?
Thanks for letting me know...but so what i am still trying to figure out is...is it worse to be deferred? Champan waitlisted me.... :(
yep, the dates are correct. I did the application via LSAC's website on the 3rd of January. I never got a complete notice, but did get a letter that said they received my app about a week or so later. I just got my acceptance letter yesterday and a call from an admissions counselor. The scholarship money stuff comes later as she said.
The only thing I added to my file was an addendum explaining circumstances leading up to my 2nd score (I did that hoping schools would ave just two instead of three scores - every bit helps!) Reading your profile, you definitely have the passion and desire to be in law school. This whole process is ruthless and very unfair. Hang in there. I've applied 3 times. Perseverance is the name of the game. Good luck to you.
they asked if i was still interested, and if i were to be then i needed to fill out this little form they included in the letter. somewhat promising....but i am not holding my breath! goodluck.
yeah i'll do it soon. Why didn't you apply to USD part time?
I was just wondering if you've heard anything from Cal Western. I can't believe they haven't let you know something by now. Anyway, I'll keep my fingers crossed. Good luck!!!
Yeah the dates are correct. I took the December Lsat so I did not start applying until the end of January beg. of February. I used the date I sent it the date that they sent me a letter saying they recieved it and then the letter was dated 2/28. I was suprised I heard so fast too! Good Luck im sure they dont hate you!! you should hear soon :)
congrats on gonzaga. My word of advice is to go there over the other schools. If you want to practice in the NW you'll be fine. Plus, if you do well your first year you can always transfer to seattle U. Being that the schools are both Jesuit and in the NW, transferring should not be a problem.
is your san diego full or part time?
Yes I applied Night... My #'s are near their mean. Might want to change your profile to "PT". Good luck.
Congrats on your acceptances... I havent had one yet but I still ahve my fingers crossed. Haha you "keen" statement about miami made me laugh. Best of luck on the rest of ur apps!
I would not only buy your book "Thin white envelope" but I would also promote it and make anyone trying to apply for law school understand how it feels to be slapped in the face repeatedly by them :-)
my LSAT is a 158 and GPA is 3.5 overall 1 year solid work experience in Finance at May Company Department Stores Corporation Decent Personal statement and decent LOR. Good luck!
Do you know why SW is sooooooooo SLOW? Do they only read one application per day, or what is the deal there? Have you head anything since you applied?
sup man...first time on LSN and I happened to stroll by your profile. Looks like we have similar numbers...Gonzaga is my frontrunner as well...u going to admitted students day?
Hey, first, excellent blog. (And walked across Spain? Coolness; I'm envious.) I will write a blurb in the cover flap of Thin White Envelope. Chapman reference: hmmm, let's just say,... I smelled money. Old, conservative money. Not that this is any good reason to attend a law school; just an observation (anonymously posted--Chapman, call me!) Seriously, I liked the school. I could definitely feel comfortable studying there. They have the resources, and the relaxed, small town atmosphere that is wonderful to me--someone from the MidWest: Chapman is only an hour from SD/LA, so 'small town' is close to big cities and thus lots of opportunities. Send me an email/I can do the same. Can keep contact if you wish re: this whole process. Sorry about the wait w/ CalWestern--maybe because of your pass last year??? Best of luck!
I aplied in late Jan, but I'm not sure when exactly. Have you heard from them yet. Where were you in Russia? I love that place--so brutal, yet so fun.
nope...unfortunately i was hired post ipo...though we did see 100+ points of growth during my time. but definately not enough to pay for 3 years of LS. But yeah...i checked out zaga stats and saw a horridly low salary range of Zaga grads. Something like 45-55 starting! is that due to to their emphasis on public interest law? or perhaps the cost of living in spokane?
sorry to hear about chapman. i've been waitlisted as well. would you consider chapman over gonzaga?
have you heard anything from them yet; at best, i will get waitlisted. i applied cuz they have a russia program. i have been everywhere in eastern europe and throughout the former soviet union
re: Chapman I didn't apply there. My brother did last year and I believe he check off his religion. He had a 100% statistical chance of getting is there, but was rejected without waitlisting. I believe it is a place for members of the Ku Klux Klan. I wouldn't go there if it were my only option. I hope you get in to USD, but I wouldn't count on it. I would pick Southwestern or Santa Clara if you want California. Good luck, hope it happens!
You still haven't heard from Cal Western? The must be playing some kind of sick mind game with you. Your numbers seem to almost guarantee you a spot. Best of luck to you on the remainder of the cycle!
I live about 1.5 hours from Spokane, and let me tell you - the high point of that city is the airport (only because you can then fly to Seattle!). It's not an awful city, but you're right that it's no Portland! Good luck with your decision!
Congrats on ur acceptances... hell congrats on ur waitlists... its more than I got! haha just wanted to see how that book of yours is coming along... I'd love to have some input on that if you're really doing it... :-)
I also think you have a decent shot at USD if you applied PT... or even if you checked off on the application that you would accept PT if you couldn't get in full time. Would u go to USD if they accepted you with no $$$?
Hi, did you get waitlisted at USD in the PT or FT program? I'm still waiting on them while they take their time. Congrats on your acceptances thus far, by the way :-)
Thanks! I know San Diego is awesome, never really visited the campus, would love to learn about more about it though. I really did apply March 31st, I was absolutely shocked at how fast I got my decision. You have some great options yourself, Id love to be in your shoes, good luck with everything!
yeah, it definitely helps me sleep at night...it's just that $850 is a lot this early in the game, you know? the good thing is, i can see myself happy at hofstra and i'm really interested in their transactional skills program, so im def excited for law school. i'm a native southern californian, so initially, it made sense to go to school out here, and hence my interest in USD (the campus is gorgeous!) but you never know...we'll see. whittier is a back up and i don't see myself there considering it's about 15 miles from my house (another reason why i didn't apply to chapman) even if i did get in. thanks for all the info! gl and hopefully you'll get into cal western or get off the waitlist at USD!
It's not so much L&C or bust as it is that I don't think that law school would be the best choice for me. Quiting my job or moving out of state is not something that I really want to do at this point in my life or career. If L&C accepts me I will reconsider. I just got back from vacation and the idea of having to give that up for a number of years doesn't really sit well with me. I guess we will see. :) Good luck to you!
yeah I withdrew.
Yeah, I am excited about L& C... it and Case are my top choices! I am trying to get them to switch me to full time, I applied to the PT program because I was on crack :) I hope you get in! Maybe they can switch me to full time and give you my spot so you can keep your house. I feel your pain with the boss... My boss just told me my company will pay full tuition reimbursement for school, and I've already got my part time admissions changed to full time. ARGH.
but due to many other things going on in my life SW (or Loyola which has already rejected me) is my only option. I have a family and cant move from LA...right now anyway. Plus I heart LA
L & C called me to offer me admission Monday AM but I didn't return the ambiguous voice mail till about 1:30pm, while I was driving up to Portland for my 2:30 appointment there :) They told me they are still reallocating scholarship dollars, so I can wait till May 9th to put a deposit down--hopefully I will have heard about financial aid by then. They gave me the admissions envelope by hand when I got to the school. Feel free to ask any more ?'s... and tell them you are very interested. I had sent them a LOI and I think that helped.
haha, was that a reference to the big lebowski?
Good for you!
you are doing amazing! i'm so excited for you! any word from santa clara? i'm holding camp by my mailbox, but i think its backfiring...no mail in two days. let me know when you hear something.
no. totally undecided, and I now have 3 deposits down (Willamette, Cleveland, and L & C.) I no longer even know which direction I'm leaning. THough I think it is Portlandish right now. Cleveland means free room and board and my mom cooking. Portland means city, mountain, trees, and a gorgeous wooded T2 lawschool. Salem means vinyards, trees, a beautifully landscaped campus with a river, and great dispute resolution programs but is T3. Any advice?
Do you think that L & C is the best even for non Environmental Law grads? It is the higher ranked of the two, so I am leaning in that direction. I will definitely email you if I decide on L & C... I am thinking of taking the full time plunge for 1L and switching to part time for 2L and 3L and getting a legal job. I decided I am going to withdraw from Akron, so that is progress!
So what are your thoughts on Seattle V. L & C? Is L & C the superior school?
So for now, my decision is L & C. Whoohoo!
I tried to do everything I could to get into Miami. I sent them 2 letters via regular mail expressing my interest as well as calling them to ask if I could speak to someone. That request was denied. Good luck!