bcensoni (2022-2023)

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Application Information

F - Fee Waiver A - Attending W - Withdrawn D - Deferred
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# Law School Status Type $$$ Sent Received Complete Interview Date Decision Updated
#1 University of San Diego Waitlisted W Type: RA Sent: 10/03/05 Rec: -- Comp: 10/10/05 Inter: -- Dec: -- Upd: 18 years
#1 American University Waitlisted W Type: RA Sent: 10/03/05 Rec: -- Comp: 10/10/05 Inter: -- Dec: 03/23/06 Upd: 18 years
#5 Seattle University Rejected D Type: RA Sent: 10/03/05 Rec: -- Comp: 10/10/05 Inter: -- Dec: 05/22/06 Upd: 18 years
#6 Gonzaga University PT Accepted W Type: RA $5,500 Sent: 10/03/05 Rec: -- Comp: 10/10/05 Inter: -- Dec: 12/23/05 Upd: 18 years
#4 Santa Clara University Pending D W Type: RA Sent: 10/03/05 Rec: -- Comp: 10/10/05 Inter: -- Dec: -- Upd: 18 years
#3 Chapman University Waitlisted W Type: RA Sent: 12/18/05 Rec: -- Comp: 01/31/06 Inter: -- Dec: -- Upd: 18 years
#1 Lewis and Clark College Accepted D A Type: RA Sent: 10/15/05 Rec: -- Comp: 11/01/05 Inter: -- Dec: 05/04/06 Upd: 18 years
#3 California Western School of Law Accepted Type: RA Sent: 10/03/05 Rec: -- Comp: 10/10/05 Inter: -- Dec: 05/04/06 Upd: 18 years
#4 Southwestern University School of Law Rejected Type: RA Sent: 10/03/05 Rec: -- Comp: 10/10/05 Inter: -- Dec: 04/28/06 Upd: 18 years
#5 University of Oregon Waitlisted W Type: RA Sent: 10/03/05 Rec: -- Comp: 10/10/05 Inter: -- Dec: 03/07/06 Upd: 18 years
#6 Whittier Law School Accepted W Type: RA $5,000 Sent: 12/16/05 Rec: -- Comp: 12/22/05 Inter: -- Dec: 02/13/06 Upd: 18 years
#6 Golden Gate University Accepted W Type: RA $5,000 Sent: 10/03/05 Rec: -- Comp: 10/10/05 Inter: -- Dec: 03/04/06 Upd: 18 years
#4 University of San Francisco Rejected Type: RA Sent: 10/03/05 Rec: -- Comp: 10/10/05 Inter: -- Dec: 02/06/06 Upd: 18 years
#1 University of Washington Rejected Type: RA Sent: 10/03/05 Rec: -- Comp: 10/10/05 Inter: -- Dec: 02/04/06 Upd: 18 years
#4 University of Miami Rejected Type: RA Sent: 10/15/05 Rec: -- Comp: 11/10/05 Inter: -- Dec: 12/15/05 Upd: 18 years
#1 University of Texas Austin Rejected Type: ED Sent: 10/03/05 Rec: -- Comp: 10/10/05 Inter: -- Dec: 12/04/05 Upd: 18 years

Applicant Information

  • LSAT: 155
  • LSAT 2: 155
  • LSAT 3: -
  • GRE : -
  • LSAC GPA: 2.8
  • Degree GPA: 3.0
  • School Type: Overpriced mid-Atlan
  • Major: Poli Sci

Demographic Information

  • City: Portland
  • State: Oregon
  • Race: Caucasion
  • Gender: Man
  • Non-Traditional Applicant: Yes
  • Years out of Undergrad: -

Extra Curricular Information

- I have taught high school for the past 5 years (I have milked this job for free trips to DC, NYC, San Francisco, Hiroshima and Kyoto Japan, PLUS they are paying for my master's in poli. sci. which it looks like Ill finish before law school now)
- Graduate degree in Education (pointless academic endeavor)
- Pretty damn nice PS if I do say so myself
- Good LORs, one from a Bush Admin cabinet member whose politics I couldnt be further away from, but he is a good man.
- I walked across Spain
- I lived in Russia for a year in high school
- I like to write and cook.
- I love my mom.
- I dont have any pets.
- I do yoga.

None of this matters. Its all about those two numbers above. I knew I shouldnt have taken Chinese and I definately should have stayed away from that girl freshman year. She was BAD news to the GPA.

I took three classes at a community college while still in high school amd because I never went and never dropped them I received 0.0 for all three (12 credits). That brings down my LSDASGPA (the injustice makes me want to vomit.)

So without those grades, I am more like a 3.0. I had a 3.6 for the last two years. I wonder if they look at trends or whehter they just say they do.

Additional info & updates

Late February, a thin letter from UMiami, "your credentials qualify you,"
'Yeah?' I think, 'then what's the problem? I accept.'
"...no final decision has been made at this time."

Today (3/23) Cal Western, my "safety" , "the committee has placed you on our waiting list."

Im thinking I should have applied to more places. But, I figured, i like my job, I like my life, I dont have to change yet. Now, ego is taking over and I am ready to raise the middle finger to this whole admissions process thing.

So, life back on hold till April, May...June. The plane continues to circle. Although, circling is better than crashing... I just saw "Alive" last night for the first time. Things could be worse. Ill have to wait until school next year, (maybe) before I start eating other people.

(4/10) Miami rejected me. F 'em. Their letter was ridiculous. "Our incoming class is very keen." Keen? What the hell is that? Is that an insult to all of us, "unkeen" people? Whatever... Im not bitter...

(4/23) Seattle rejected me. They say it is because I applied so late. Ironically, I got the rejection letter (thin white envelope that just screamed rejection) upon returning from a Kaplan prep test (probably should have done that first time around.) More LSAT life-consuming prep hell. I am going to buy some rope.

(5/3) While I'll be damned, San Diego waitlisted me. And while that isnt an acceptance, and the chances are probably low that I am high on that waitlist, it still isnt a rejection. Its a little encouraging. I just wish that I had applied a few months earlier...

(5/9) The San Diego schools keep the good news coming. I received an acceptance from Cal Western today (thin white envelope) So, now its trying to decide on waiting another year, improving the LSAT on June 6th, and reapplying to higher tier schools.

If USD said waitlist, would they have said yes if I applied earlier?

Loyola rejected me. I didnt want to live in LA anyway.

6-7-05 Took the LSAT again yesterday. I was scoring 10 points higher on practice tests leading up to it. When I got in there though I was pretty damn nervous. We'll see... I thought I did well last time and the score was much lower than I had hoped for. This time I am less sure. It depends on the unscored section (games)

7-2-05 I got the exact same goddamn score the second time around. I was scoring 163-165 on practice tests. (They were at home and self-timed, but I was honest.) At least Im consistent, and I made it easy for schools to average...
Hopefully applying to more than five schools, two of which were extremely late, will help my chances. Im also hoping that applying early gets the returns Ive been reading about. Ive got the list together and hopefully Ill have everything mailed out by labor day and the start of school.

Battered and bruised, but not beaten, I embark on another year of applications, with lessons learned from last year. You may notice how late I got started last year and I still got waitlisted at USD and Miami before being rejected very late. I got into Cal Western, but the acceptance came late too because I didnt appply until February. I hope that getting an early start this year will make a difference. I hear it can. Ill see. Im mad at my piece of garbage LSAT score, especially since I was scoring 8 points higher on practice tests at Kaplan 1 WEEK before the test in June.
Anyway, its mid-October and my files are complete at every place I have applied to. Ive got two dream reach schools that were probably unwise to apply to, but you never know (UW, UT) I really hope that USD, San Fransisco, Lewis & Clark, UO, Miami (I like their Ocean Law program) or American give me the nod. That would be wonderful.

Ive got the safety schools, of which I would most prefer Cal Western and its nice location. I figure, if you have to go to a tier-4 school, you mine as well be in a place you can surf.

I am completed everywhere and now just wonder when decisions begin and when I can expect to hear one way or another. I received emails from UW, Seattle, Gonzaga, L&C, UW, Oregon, USF, and American.

San Diego and Miami sure take their sweet time letting you know they have everything. Miami finally sent a little card with nothing checked which I guess is their way of telling you that you are complete...

Golden Gate sent a card telling me a decision will come in 4-6 weeks. Its been two.

I havent heard anything from Southwestern.

12-4-05 After watching Texas dismantle Colorado in the Big XII Championship game I received their rejection letter in the mail. This wasnt a surprise with my numbers. The letter was very thin. Almost ridiculously so. I mean, dont be cruel about it...

12-15-05 Happy Holidays from the University of Miami: I am not "keen" enough to gain addmission there. Last year they waited until April before they told me to fuck off... So much for applying early.

12-17-05 Happy holidays from Santa CLara... maybe we will take you, but not now... Ahhhh, the holidays.

12-28-05 My first acceptance! Gonzaga with $5500 per year... If only Spokane werent so dreary and conservative...

1-5-06 I looked into my chances of getting into Northwestern... Ill save my $60... When the hell are these admission committees going to get back to work?

Seattle's website says that "decision mailed" Stay tuned.

1-7-05 Deferred at Seattle "until (they) receive all of thier applications for this cycle." This one kind of stung. SU would have been a good place for me. Its still a possibility, but a dim one.

1-19-06 Last minute addition of Chapman as it appears, perhaps, a step up from some of my other "safety" schools - though I am realizing (and have secretly known) that my safeties are really simply realistic chances of getting in, rather than shoe in places...

1-30-6 - I havent heard anything, from anyone, for nearly a month. I applied VERY early this year, the first week of October hoping to get back more than rejections by now. Gonzaga is mentally nice to know, but really would prefer not to live in Spokane, freezing my ass off, walking to bball games to watch Adam Morrison dominate. I somehow managed to survive American's first round of rejections. I guess being an alumnist may help out now and then.

I hope all are doing okay with your mental outlooks.

2.2.6 - Hey, wow, another deferal/waitlist from Lewis and Clark last night. Im getting pretty tired of this whole process. I know my numbers were a little low, but I feel like my EC should matter for something and Im beginning to think they dont at all. I went to LC for my graduate degree, shouldnt that give me a little love?

AND, while Im at it,why the hell are third and fourth teir schools taking their sweet ass time with decisions. Cal Western has been making decisions for over a month accepting people with lower LSATs than me who applied after me. What gives? Getting tired and frustrated...

2.3.6 If admin people are looking at our profiles, (and I dont know how they would know who individuals are with names like ImNobody or PandaMafia or Lax11Slice or c5367ss...) then they should see the passion and desire and let me in...

2.4.6 Ding at UW. No surprise. i would point out that their basketball team has really taken a dive, and with it, my interest in attending there.

2.6.6 Ding San Francisco WHAT A WEEK!

2.8.6 Seeing some profiles similar to mine getting in at American and USD. We can dream cant we?

2.13.06 An acceptance at Whittier last night raises my spirits after the horror that was "rejection week" last week... I would hope that I can still get into a school that isnt on ABA probation. (When I spoke to an admissions person about this it seems that the school is rather upset about that decision and it sounded somewhat unfair.) Nonetheless, I hope this is an indication of things to come... and soon. I am getting ulcers.

$5000 first year Whittier cheese. C'mon guys, show a little more love. Give me some books or something. Or fill up may car with gas.

3-3-6 No news in almost a month... I have stopped rushing home to the mailbox. Whatever. I think rolling admissions is a bunch of crap. I think that Cal Western is just having fun with me or something... they dont even return my calls. I feel like the guy in the Twilight Zone episode that has the spot put on his head for a criminal punishment, and he is ignored by everyone...and goes crazy. That is how Cal Western, Southwestern, AMerican, and USD are treating me. Its so cruel...people have lives to plan. I might need to sell a house, quit a job, leave family and friends, and these folks are pushing their decisions into March and later for someone who applied in October...

Im going to go pour a drink.

3-4-6 - THE DRINKING WORKED!!! It always does. In at Golden Gate today. Ca$h to follow. I received a thin envelope which when I saw it made me shutter... "rejected at G.G? Where is the nearest cliff!" But, alas, it was from the financial aid office welcoming me... it bat the accepatance letter to me. So, that brightens my day. I still cant believe that USD and American have yet to make a decision. Who knows... BUT, to now rain on my own parade, I do have all those schools ranked lowest for a reason... Chapman? Cal West? Seattle? LEWIS AND CLARK!!! perhaps?

3-7-6 My first OFFICIAL waitlist at U of O. The thin white enevlope almost was destroyed prior to reading. You notice that the rejection letters often arent even sealed? As if it is too much energy for the admin people to take care of that...

I am thinking about writing a short story about law school admissions entitled, "Thin White Envelope"

So, as of last night, yes at Gonzaga, Whitier, GOlden Gate... Gonzaga is in the lead I guess...

3-10-6 I finally got a response from the CWSL admissions department... I really began to believe that I was their one candidate who they would have fun with and NEVER send any correspondance to or reply to any emails or phone calls. They said a decision had not yet been made, give them about two weeks, which perhaps not coincidentaly, will approximately be the one year aniversary of their deferral (see above) That would be a devestating blow to the ego. Though I am creatively visualizing myself at USD, Lewis and Clark, and American, I must be reasonable. Reasonable at this point, if I want a warmer climate, is CWSL, Chapman, and perhaps Southwestern (who also are taking their sweet time...) So, more holding of breath. I dont know that I buy into the whole apply early thing anymore, not with all these folks that are comparable to me applying in February and getting in (with comprable numbers...)

3.24.06 Chapman waitlist...

4.1.6 Ahhh spring is upon us. Going to play hooky tomorrow and go to Mariners opening day against the Angels.

Took my California/Spokane law school tour this past week.
My impressions:
1st Southwestern - Admin department can bite me. No one returned phone calls or emails for the two wweeks prior to my visit. I finally got some less than enthusistic about having to work in the addmisions office student who said, "come in if you want." I was already in Los Angeles. After spending 1.5 hours driving 30 miles from Anaheim to LA, I got the quick once over from a 3L who was less than enthusiastic about having to take me on a tour.
Great looking facilities. No where to live close by that would be pleasent. I asked some students how long their commutes are. 45 minutes and 50 minutes respectfully.
Me: "So, in law school, with no time to eat and shit and breathe, you spend upwards of two hours in your car a day?"
Them (SoCal sunshine on conspicuously white teeth): "uh-huh, yep."

I then spent the next three days gambling and drinking cocktails with friends in the desert. My advice, always double down on 11, it made me over $300 (that and a TOTALLY irrational ace split on a $50 original bet that than became $100. Queen of diamonds on the first ace, and a Jack of spades on an ace of hearts on the second. It was so beautiful, I asked if I could take a picture. The dealer said no. Drinks were weak, but cheap.

Whittier - Ahhhh, no.

Chapman open house on Thursday 3/30 - Gentile dean makes everyone smile before telling us obvious truths, "law school hard. Do well in school. Do well on LSAT." After an admissions PowerPoint that included great information such as how to apply (it is the end of March) we were introduced to 5 of the most self-serving, self-important 2 and 3Ls Ive had the pleasure of meeting. One of whom had his nose so far up the ass of the ultra-conservative Con Law professor that teaches at Chapman that used to clerk for Clarence Thomas and that fascist Michael Luddig who even wossie-assed Democrats opposed to being nominated to the court of appeals. Of course, i get him for my tour guide. I asked him if Clarence Thomas ever asked ANY questions AT ALL, EVER. He became increasingly annoyed with me.

Its livable LA. Clean, small, neat.

But I think people who go there are rich sons of bitches. I dont know, just a felling I got. I think they are ALL trustafarians with no connection to reality. I say this because of the 5 students who were there to show us around, they were all bitches and jackasses.
Me: I know that you already go to CHAPMAN LAW, ohhhhh, but, show some respect to us peons who have not yet entered into the ranks of people of greatness like yourselves.

Saturday at Gonzaga. -- Oh, they are so great up there. Everyone is so nice and helpful. Tour guide was so enthusiastic about everything. He knew everyone and the students who were milling about on a Saturday am all seemed happy and light. We saw the finals of the schoools 2L Legal Writing Moot Court competition with a number of Washington, Idaho, and Montana Supreme Court justices. Then they fed us and I was "selected" to go and talk to them while we grubbed on. I asked advice, they gave it. The jist of it: Have fun in law school as you learn. Its all attitude... How refreshing.
The fiancial aid lady spent 20 minutes with me and gave me great advice. For example, if you can (most cant) but pay the interest on loans every month, and go with the PLUS loan as some people are paying 11% from last year in private loans that CANT BE CONSOLIDATED.

Then, the Dean of Addmisions gives me a ride through the rain to go meet a real estate agent, which gets me to the bad part...

Gozaga is in Spokane. And while I could get my drink on at places like Jack and Dan's, the town is drab and depressing. It didnt help that it was raining.
Spokane is also dirt cheap. $500 will get you a nice pad. $150K will get you a house! It also has good cheap golf, and GREAT, cheap (weekdays) snowboarding.

But, alas, it is no Seattle, or Portland, much less a San Diego.

i know it is shallow of me, but it was hard to "feel" Spokane. I mean, you want to enjoy where you live, right? I also know that you will be indoors most of the time anyhow, if you want to do well at least.

I got home late last night to PDX and American had waitlisted me. Unbelievable. Another f'in waitlist.

I also got a nice, long email from Carol Cochran of Seattle U. which I would have LOVED. Apparently, only 20 people have been accepted off the waitlist IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS!!! So, looks like Seattle is slim and none, and slim just left town. (Probably for Spokane)

Gonzaga still leads by a mile, but did I mention how dreary Spokane is?

4-12-6 I mailed my Gonzaga seat deposit in this morning. With the scholorship money and the lower cost of living its by far the best choice. I still hold out hope for a USD yes and/or a L&C, Seattle, or American acceptance off the waitlist. It would be more expensive though.

I have been going through all of this for almost a year and a half now and I am ready to be done, as is everyone around me.

Spokane isnt that bad. rent for a nice place is cheap. Real cheap. Less than half of Seattle or San Diego. Id prefer Lewis and Clark because I can kee[p my job part-time and not have to sell my house...

then, I walk in this morning and the boss wants a decision soon. Totally fair, but the pressure is growing parallel with my blood pressure.

I also need to buy a computer. Any sugestions?

Also, can American really have that many applicants withdraw? Whats with that? 50%ish!? I would like to get excited about the waitlist, but seeing as how they have waitlisted just about as many as they accepted, I am sceptical.

4-16-06 WOW! Another waitlist! San DIego. Thin White Envelope...

4-28-06 At least when Southwestern said in their rejection letter that they spent considerable time reviewing my application, I knew they werent bullshiting... After almost 7 months, the assholes rejected me. Are you kidding? Not even a waitlist? I ad made up my mind that I would not go there anyway after my "visit" in March, and Im not just saying that to make myself feel better...

I will be accepted off the LC waitlist by May 15th. Mark it dude.

5-4-6 Finally, accepted to Cal Western.
No more decisions, no more running home to the mailbox every day.

Im really curious why it took them so long. Was it that I passed on them last year? Was it that I misspelled "cited" in my application regarding past criminal behavior "cited with an MIP in high school" NOT "sited" (Never quickly write anything to anyone official)

Regardless, while I wait for the final USD, Seattle, L&C, and AU decisions, I now have to make up my mind between beautiful, if not more expensive, San Diego, where I know one person and his lovely fiance, or Spokane, where I know nobody...

I know that school, particularly our first years will be hellacious. And that the inside of a law library looks the same under gray, cold Spokane skies, or sunny, warm, surf breaking majestically to the right this morning as a cool breeze finds its way across your face while you sip coffee and read the morning paper before class wearing shorts and flip flops...

Also, if I went to Cal Western, I could transfer to USD after the first year. That would motivate me to do well...

PLEASE!!! Share your thoughts and musings...

5-4-6 Game Set Match, accepted at Lewis and Clark. What a day!

Im attending.

5.22.6 Seattle rejected me. Oh well. I guess Ill go to the higher ranked Lewis and Clark...

Still curiously holding out for USD and American...

For all of you that are still waiting, best of luck. This has been a great place to vent. As a wiser man than me said:

Dude: Take care, man, I gotta get back.
Stranger: Sure. Take it easy, Dude--I know that you will.
Dude: Yeah man. Well, you know, the Dude abides.

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Sunday, June 26 2005 at 08:00 PM

I tried to do everything I could to get into Miami. I sent them 2 letters via regular mail expressing my interest as well as calling them to ask if I could speak to someone. That request was denied. Good luck!

San Diego
Monday, August 15 2005 at 08:00 PM

I have a co-worker that is supposed to be receiving a call from the outgoing Dean at USD tomorrow (5/24/2005). He is going to find out about their waitlist system, since according to the letter they sent me, they "do not rank [their] waitlist applicants."

Wednesday, November 02 2005 at 07:00 PM

just been working, going to the beach, and applying to law schools. i was definitely really happy to hear yes from miami, best of luck to you

re: miami
Sunday, September 25 2005 at 08:00 PM

I'm sure you're correct in assuming they only looked our lsat scores and gpa's when making the decision to reject us. I had a great p.s., several letters of recommendations, and fairly good extracurriculars. I guess we just didn't fall within thier required range of numbers to warrant any consideration of other parts of our applications.

Sunday, December 04 2005 at 07:00 PM

my #'s brotha.....yes, i am indeed crazy. Yet I see that we are in identical situations thus far (texas rejects, santa clara deferrals) and i cant help but feel that you have better decision-making abilities than i do. nonetheless, my reasoning is such: I want to go to a good school, i can suceed at a good school, the only thing keeping me from doing so is this admissions process. so what i will do is try this crazy plan this year...the money is worth the dream, plus im a (evidently bad) gambler... and if i dont get in this year i will re-take the lsats like yourself and try again. if it dont work, well i guess ill find something to do.

Friday, September 09 2005 at 08:00 PM

I wish you all the luck in your application to law school. wish you a happy new year.

Tuesday, September 06 2005 at 08:00 PM

congrats! spokane isn't too bad, it has 4 seasons...seattle doesn't even have that.

Friday, October 21 2005 at 08:00 PM

thanks for your message :) I've been in love with the SD area for years now...feels good to know I could move there now if I wanted to! I absolutely love L&C and USD but they are chances slim to none. Funny, I took Russian for two semesters at my first UG, idiot idiot...not nearly has difficult as Chinese but what was I thinking!? I enjoyed it but not the grades I earned..I wish you luck this cycle!

Friday, October 21 2005 at 08:00 PM

no...haven't thought about NOVA...if i stay in FL i would rather it be Stetson since I already live here...if they will have me, that is.

SDCIMB's profile
Saturday, September 10 2005 at 08:00 PM

Hey again. I saw that u were leaning TJSL on SCDIMB's site. NOOO!! Go to CWSL. There is the best sushi you have ever had about 4 blocks away. We're talking 16 pieces and a salad/soup for $10. It's awesome. What more reason do you need? haha

Tuesday, September 06 2005 at 08:00 PM

sorry about seattle, hopefully they will see the light (through all the rain, ha...sorry) and let you in!

Saturday, November 05 2005 at 07:00 PM

Hang in there. I can feel your pain as I read your "addtl info" column. You are not alone, trust me! I think I owe the SCU nod to a great LOR that was written especially for them which also explained my work experience. I applied more than once: the first PS was about IP, so yes, they knew I wanted to get in for that. Try to touch on all aspects of yourself (academic, work, family, background, etc.) somewhere in your app whether it is through your PS, LORs, or addendums. Hope that helps. :)

Wednesday, March 16 2005 at 07:00 PM

Thanks for your reply. I sent you an email. Best fo luck to you, and take care!

Saturday, December 31 2005 at 07:00 PM

i went complete in late november. i applied to both day and night, but i got slotted in the night. i am trying to appeal to get fulltime status. i have not decided where to go, i am still waiting for the other letters to come. also, im sure it doesnt look like t, but i am positive i got in on numbers alone. i took the lsat twice, the 2nd time i got 160. i am sure they were looing at my 2nd score. the rest of my app was only avg.

Thanks for the ...
Wednesday, August 11 2004 at 08:00 PM

...app hint, and congrats on Gonzaga (Miami obviously doesn't know talent...screw being "keen") Perhaps we'll both sit in torts at Santa Clara or L&C. Best of luck !

Thursday, January 05 2006 at 07:00 PM

We have similar numbers. I just called Miami and said they are going to "hold" my application. I guess that means I'm deferred. Did this happen to you last year? What exactly does it mean? Did you send them additional letters, recs, etc? Is there anything you'd recommend I do?

Saturday, September 17 2005 at 08:00 PM

I have also been hastily adding "safety schools" to my list. Unfortunately, my numbers don't alow me to have any real guaranteed shots! Good Luck with yuor apps!!

Sunday, January 29 2006 at 07:00 PM

I'm a west coast type of person, so no more UVA for me. I grew up in CA. Anyway, I'm liking Pacific or Pepperdine so far. Have you heard anything about them good or bad? Where are you looking at thus far?

Saturday, December 31 2005 at 07:00 PM

southwesterns campus is gorgeous, so beaultiful i could melt....the library anyways. the library is a refurbished art deco dept store, words cant do it justice, even if you dont go there, take a tour when your in la youll be floored. the classrooms though are old and ugly. all lecture style, no wifi access in them. the classrooms ar ein a building adjascent ot the library. the library is the showpiece, the westmoreland building is the classroom bldg, and it is strictly utilitarian. sw itself is in korea town, it borders a real poor dicey area of downtown la, but also borders the ritsy area to, it kinda stradles both. thanks on usd! i know i got lucky, but whatever, i take what i can get, if im in, im in! im appealing for ft status, but hopefullt ill get in loyola!

Wednesday, November 23 2005 at 07:00 PM

I like your comments. You seem like an okay guy. GL to ya.

Sunday, October 16 2005 at 08:00 PM

Hi! First of all.....GOOD LUCK with your apps! Second off can you explain the difference between being deferred and being waitlisted?

Sunday, October 16 2005 at 08:00 PM

Thanks for letting me know...but so what i am still trying to figure out is...is it worse to be deferred? Champan waitlisted me.... :(

Friday, December 09 2005 at 07:00 PM

yep, the dates are correct. I did the application via LSAC's website on the 3rd of January. I never got a complete notice, but did get a letter that said they received my app about a week or so later. I just got my acceptance letter yesterday and a call from an admissions counselor. The scholarship money stuff comes later as she said.

Saturday, November 05 2005 at 07:00 PM

The only thing I added to my file was an addendum explaining circumstances leading up to my 2nd score (I did that hoping schools would ave just two instead of three scores - every bit helps!) Reading your profile, you definitely have the passion and desire to be in law school. This whole process is ruthless and very unfair. Hang in there. I've applied 3 times. Perseverance is the name of the game. Good luck to you.

chapman waitlist...
Thursday, December 08 2005 at 07:00 PM

they asked if i was still interested, and if i were to be then i needed to fill out this little form they included in the letter. somewhat promising....but i am not holding my breath! goodluck.

San Diego
Saturday, July 30 2005 at 08:00 PM

yeah i'll do it soon. Why didn't you apply to USD part time?

Any news?
Wednesday, February 22 2006 at 07:00 PM

I was just wondering if you've heard anything from Cal Western. I can't believe they haven't let you know something by now. Anyway, I'll keep my fingers crossed. Good luck!!!

sunkissed cannot follow directions.
Tuesday, November 01 2005 at 07:00 PM

Yeah the dates are correct. I took the December Lsat so I did not start applying until the end of January beg. of February. I used the date I sent it the date that they sent me a letter saying they recieved it and then the letter was dated 2/28. I was suprised I heard so fast too! Good Luck im sure they dont hate you!! you should hear soon :)

Thursday, December 22 2005 at 07:00 PM

congrats on gonzaga. My word of advice is to go there over the other schools. If you want to practice in the NW you'll be fine. Plus, if you do well your first year you can always transfer to seattle U. Being that the schools are both Jesuit and in the NW, transferring should not be a problem.

san diego
Thursday, January 05 2006 at 07:00 PM

is your san diego full or part time?

San Diego
Thursday, January 05 2006 at 07:00 PM

Yes I applied Night... My #'s are near their mean. Might want to change your profile to "PT". Good luck.

Monday, February 13 2006 at 07:00 PM

Congrats on your acceptances... I havent had one yet but I still ahve my fingers crossed. Haha you "keen" statement about miami made me laugh. Best of luck on the rest of ur apps!

Monday, February 13 2006 at 07:00 PM

I would not only buy your book "Thin white envelope" but I would also promote it and make anyone trying to apply for law school understand how it feels to be slapped in the face repeatedly by them :-)

Monday, March 06 2006 at 07:00 PM

my LSAT is a 158 and GPA is 3.5 overall 1 year solid work experience in Finance at May Company Department Stores Corporation Decent Personal statement and decent LOR. Good luck!

hi again
Sunday, March 12 2006 at 07:00 PM

Do you know why SW is sooooooooo SLOW? Do they only read one application per day, or what is the deal there? Have you head anything since you applied?

numbers buddy
Saturday, March 18 2006 at 07:00 PM

sup man...first time on LSN and I happened to stroll by your profile. Looks like we have similar numbers...Gonzaga is my frontrunner as well...u going to admitted students day?

Thanks for post/Chapman
Saturday, February 25 2006 at 07:00 PM

Hey, first, excellent blog. (And walked across Spain? Coolness; I'm envious.) I will write a blurb in the cover flap of Thin White Envelope. Chapman reference: hmmm, let's just say,... I smelled money. Old, conservative money. Not that this is any good reason to attend a law school; just an observation (anonymously posted--Chapman, call me!) Seriously, I liked the school. I could definitely feel comfortable studying there. They have the resources, and the relaxed, small town atmosphere that is wonderful to me--someone from the MidWest: Chapman is only an hour from SD/LA, so 'small town' is close to big cities and thus lots of opportunities. Send me an email/I can do the same. Can keep contact if you wish re: this whole process. Sorry about the wait w/ CalWestern--maybe because of your pass last year??? Best of luck!

Friday, January 13 2006 at 07:00 PM

I aplied in late Jan, but I'm not sure when exactly. Have you heard from them yet. Where were you in Russia? I love that place--so brutal, yet so fun.

re: google
Saturday, March 18 2006 at 07:00 PM

nope...unfortunately i was hired post ipo...though we did see 100+ points of growth during my time. but definately not enough to pay for 3 years of LS. But yeah...i checked out zaga stats and saw a horridly low salary range of Zaga grads. Something like 45-55 starting! is that due to to their emphasis on public interest law? or perhaps the cost of living in spokane?

Saturday, March 18 2006 at 07:00 PM

sorry to hear about chapman. i've been waitlisted as well. would you consider chapman over gonzaga?

Friday, January 13 2006 at 07:00 PM

have you heard anything from them yet; at best, i will get waitlisted. i applied cuz they have a russia program. i have been everywhere in eastern europe and throughout the former soviet union

Sunday, September 18 2005 at 08:00 PM

re: Chapman I didn't apply there. My brother did last year and I believe he check off his religion. He had a 100% statistical chance of getting is there, but was rejected without waitlisting. I believe it is a place for members of the Ku Klux Klan. I wouldn't go there if it were my only option. I hope you get in to USD, but I wouldn't count on it. I would pick Southwestern or Santa Clara if you want California. Good luck, hope it happens!

Still Nothing?
Monday, November 07 2005 at 07:00 PM

You still haven't heard from Cal Western? The must be playing some kind of sick mind game with you. Your numbers seem to almost guarantee you a spot. Best of luck to you on the remainder of the cycle!

Friday, September 30 2005 at 08:00 PM

I live about 1.5 hours from Spokane, and let me tell you - the high point of that city is the airport (only because you can then fly to Seattle!). It's not an awful city, but you're right that it's no Portland! Good luck with your decision!

congrats! / book
Monday, February 13 2006 at 07:00 PM

Congrats on ur acceptances... hell congrats on ur waitlists... its more than I got! haha just wanted to see how that book of yours is coming along... I'd love to have some input on that if you're really doing it... :-)

Monday, February 13 2006 at 07:00 PM

I also think you have a decent shot at USD if you applied PT... or even if you checked off on the application that you would accept PT if you couldn't get in full time. Would u go to USD if they accepted you with no $$$?

Wednesday, January 04 2006 at 07:00 PM

Hi, did you get waitlisted at USD in the PT or FT program? I'm still waiting on them while they take their time. Congrats on your acceptances thus far, by the way :-)

re :CWSL
Friday, April 14 2006 at 08:00 PM

Thanks! I know San Diego is awesome, never really visited the campus, would love to learn about more about it though. I really did apply March 31st, I was absolutely shocked at how fast I got my decision. You have some great options yourself, Id love to be in your shoes, good luck with everything!

Wednesday, January 04 2006 at 07:00 PM

yeah, it definitely helps me sleep at night...it's just that $850 is a lot this early in the game, you know? the good thing is, i can see myself happy at hofstra and i'm really interested in their transactional skills program, so im def excited for law school. i'm a native southern californian, so initially, it made sense to go to school out here, and hence my interest in USD (the campus is gorgeous!) but you never know...we'll see. whittier is a back up and i don't see myself there considering it's about 15 miles from my house (another reason why i didn't apply to chapman) even if i did get in. thanks for all the info! gl and hopefully you'll get into cal western or get off the waitlist at USD!

Thursday, November 03 2005 at 07:00 PM

It's not so much L&C or bust as it is that I don't think that law school would be the best choice for me. Quiting my job or moving out of state is not something that I really want to do at this point in my life or career. If L&C accepts me I will reconsider. I just got back from vacation and the idea of having to give that up for a number of years doesn't really sit well with me. I guess we will see. :) Good luck to you!

lewis & clark
Friday, October 28 2005 at 08:00 PM

yeah I withdrew.

Monday, March 27 2006 at 07:00 PM

Yeah, I am excited about L& C... it and Case are my top choices! I am trying to get them to switch me to full time, I applied to the PT program because I was on crack :) I hope you get in! Maybe they can switch me to full time and give you my spot so you can keep your house. I feel your pain with the boss... My boss just told me my company will pay full tuition reimbursement for school, and I've already got my part time admissions changed to full time. ARGH.

I get that a lot
Sunday, March 12 2006 at 07:00 PM

but due to many other things going on in my life SW (or Loyola which has already rejected me) is my only option. I have a family and cant move from LA...right now anyway. Plus I heart LA

how I heard
Monday, March 27 2006 at 07:00 PM

L & C called me to offer me admission Monday AM but I didn't return the ambiguous voice mail till about 1:30pm, while I was driving up to Portland for my 2:30 appointment there :) They told me they are still reallocating scholarship dollars, so I can wait till May 9th to put a deposit down--hopefully I will have heard about financial aid by then. They gave me the admissions envelope by hand when I got to the school. Feel free to ask any more ?'s... and tell them you are very interested. I had sent them a LOI and I think that helped.

'Mark it dude'
Wednesday, January 04 2006 at 07:00 PM

haha, was that a reference to the big lebowski?

Thursday, November 03 2005 at 07:00 PM

Good for you!

santa clara
Tuesday, September 06 2005 at 08:00 PM

you are doing amazing! i'm so excited for you! any word from santa clara? i'm holding camp by my mailbox, but i think its backfiring...no mail in two days. let me know when you hear something.

l & c
Monday, March 27 2006 at 07:00 PM


l & c
Monday, March 27 2006 at 07:00 PM

no. totally undecided, and I now have 3 deposits down (Willamette, Cleveland, and L & C.) I no longer even know which direction I'm leaning. THough I think it is Portlandish right now. Cleveland means free room and board and my mom cooking. Portland means city, mountain, trees, and a gorgeous wooded T2 lawschool. Salem means vinyards, trees, a beautifully landscaped campus with a river, and great dispute resolution programs but is T3. Any advice?

Monday, March 27 2006 at 07:00 PM

Do you think that L & C is the best even for non Environmental Law grads? It is the higher ranked of the two, so I am leaning in that direction. I will definitely email you if I decide on L & C... I am thinking of taking the full time plunge for 1L and switching to part time for 2L and 3L and getting a legal job. I decided I am going to withdraw from Akron, so that is progress!

Seattle v. L&C
Monday, March 27 2006 at 07:00 PM

So what are your thoughts on Seattle V. L & C? Is L & C the superior school?

L & C
Monday, March 27 2006 at 07:00 PM

So for now, my decision is L & C. Whoohoo!