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Application Information

F - Fee Waiver A - Attending W - Withdrawn D - Deferred
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# Law School Status Type $$$ Sent Received Complete Interview Date Decision Updated
Loyola University Chicago Accepted A Type: RA $66,000 Sent: 02/10/07 Rec: 02/12/07 Comp: 02/22/07 Inter: -- Dec: 03/14/07 Upd: 15 years
University of Minnesota Twin Cities Accepted W Type: RA Sent: 02/14/07 Rec: 02/14/07 Comp: 03/12/07 Inter: -- Dec: 03/28/07 Upd: 15 years
University of Wisconsin Madison Accepted W Type: RA Sent: 01/31/07 Rec: 02/01/07 Comp: 03/02/07 Inter: -- Dec: 04/02/07 Upd: 15 years
George Washington University Rejected Type: RA Sent: 02/08/07 Rec: 02/09/07 Comp: 03/06/07 Inter: -- Dec: 04/22/07 Upd: 15 years
Boston College Rejected Type: RA Sent: 02/11/07 Rec: 02/12/07 Comp: 02/21/07 Inter: -- Dec: 04/07/07 Upd: 15 years
Northwestern University Rejected Type: RA Sent: 02/08/07 Rec: 02/08/07 Comp: 03/01/07 Inter: -- Dec: 04/05/07 Upd: 15 years
Washington University in St Louis Waitlisted Type: RA Sent: 02/08/07 Rec: 02/13/07 Comp: 02/22/07 Inter: -- Dec: 03/30/07 Upd: 15 years
University of Notre Dame Rejected Type: RA Sent: 02/04/07 Rec: 02/05/07 Comp: 03/06/07 Inter: -- Dec: 03/28/07 Upd: 15 years
Boston University Waitlisted Type: RA Sent: 02/13/07 Rec: 02/13/07 Comp: 03/07/07 Inter: -- Dec: 03/23/07 Upd: 15 years
Emory University Waitlisted Type: RA Sent: 02/14/07 Rec: 02/14/07 Comp: 02/27/07 Inter: -- Dec: 03/22/07 Upd: 15 years

Applicant Information

  • LSAT: 161
  • LSAT 2: 164
  • LSAT 3: -
  • GRE : -
  • LSAC GPA: 3.6
  • Degree GPA: -
  • School Type: Top 15
  • Major: -

Demographic Information

  • City: Chicago
  • State: Illinois
  • Race: white
  • Gender: Woman
  • Non-Traditional Applicant: Yes
  • Years out of Undergrad: -

Extra Curricular Information

Interesting double major.
One yr work experience at a law firm.
Previous summer experience in other fields.
Feelin pretty good about my pstmt and recs.

Not feeling so hot about the late turn in of apps. However, it was the best I could do given the late re-take of the LSAT. Crossing my fingers this won't have a huge effect on decisions.

Chiashu Percentages (for what it's worth...):

Northwestern 16% (rejected)
Notre Dame 31% (rejected)
Boston College 40% (rejected)
George Washington 49% (rejected)
Boston University 58% (waitlisted)
Emory 60% (waitlisted)
Wisconsin 64% (accepted)
WashU 68% (waitlisted)
Minnesota 77% (accepted)
Loyola-Chicago 88% (accepted)

I welcome any and all comments, so please let me know your thoughts.

QUESTION: WHAT DO I DO BTWN MY CURRENT OPTIONS? Lots of money from a school in the city I want to practice vs. no money but in state tuition from a top 20 school??

Additional info & updates

Sent = Submitted via LSAC.
Received = Email confirmation or LSDAS report requested.
Complete = Email confirmation or change in status checker.
Decision = Received decision.

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2/14 - All apps in! FINALLY!

3/6 - Getting antsy waiting to hear I am complete at the schools... I called ND and GW and found out I was complete after hearing that they don't send out a notice.

3/12 - Received a little green postcard from BU today notifying me that I am complete; dated 3-7-07. Now I am just waiting to hear if I am complete at WashU. I assume I am, but a little notification would be nice. The one empty box is kind of annoying me.

3/14 - IN AT LOYOLA--MY FIRST ACCEPTANCE!! Got a call from Dean Bloomquist tonight (went to voicemail) saying I'm in and will be receiving my package by the end of this week. Also was informed that I am a scholarship recipient and will be getting details on that in the mail. Accepted Students weekend is next weekend and seeing as how I live in Chicago, it shouldn't be difficult to make it.

3/15 - Emailed WashU last night to find out if I was complete and got an email back this morning saying that I have been complete since 2/22. I guess they don't automatically notify you when you go complete.

3/15 - Received package from Loyola in the mail (small, but thick, white envelope) explaining that they will give me $22,000 per year as part of my honors-at-entrance scholarship!

3/22 - Received a small white envelope from Emory notifying me of my position on the waitlist. The letter said that after May 15th, I can call to find out my ranking on the waitlist , and then I can decide from there if I want to stay on it. I was a little surprised about being waitlisted because I thought I had a decent chance, but I think Emory probably averages the two LSAT scores. In that case, I'd only have a 161.5, and then I guess the waitlist makes more sense... Ah well, I'll wait it out I suppose.

3/23 - Aw man, another waitlist. I'm starting to feel horrible about the late turn in of apps. Anyway, WAITLISTED AT BU, and apparently they will notify me of a decision as early as May. This is frustrating, but I guess I should learn to be patient since I am borderline at a lot of these schools. The letter came in a small, white envelope, which is never too assuring. At least I wasn't outright rejected...?? Man this is tough because you just wish you could tell schools you'll work your ass off if you are there and do better than half of the rest of the class... ah well, guess that's what you're supposed to show them with the LSAT...

In other news, went to the LOYOLA honors reception tonight and met tons of cool people... definitely had an amazing time... the open bar didn't hurt :) Feeling good about things and excited for Discover Loyola Day tomorrow!

3/24 - Went to Discover Loyola today and had a good time. I like the part of Chicago the school is in, and it's appealing to me because I'd love to work in Chicago after graduating. I know of some ppl who went to Loyola and transferred into NU after doing well their first year. Perhaps that would be an option if I did well...

3/28 - Bittersweet past hour for me. I was on my way home from work when I got a voicemail from the dean of U of MINNESOTA saying I'm in. That was exciting because it's top 20. Then, I get home to a very tiny envelope from NOTRE DAME. That bummed me out because I had been very excited about the possibility of going there. With MN ranked 19th and ND at 28th, I thought I had a better shot at ND. Ah well, I guess the whole process is a little random. Anyway, looking forward to seeing how the money from MN compares to Loyola.

3/30 - WAITLISTED AT WASHU. I received a very nice email this afternoon notifying me of my position on the waitlist. The letter commented on my "high credentials" and said that they do expect to be offering spots to applicants on the waitlist this year. All in all, a very nice email. They said my letter should be arriving in the mail soon. I plan to stay on the waitlist.

4/2 - ACCEPTED TO WISCONSIN via deceivingly small, white envelope. Excited because this is where my twin sister went to undergrad and Madison is a fun place. However, not sure if this makes as much sense for me as Loyola (due to its placement in Chicago and the money) and Minnesota (bc I'll get instate tuition there and be close to home). I'm excited to check out the accepted students weekend April 13-14th, but it will have to really be fabulous to persuade me to leave Chicago.

4/5 - REJECTED FROM NORTHWESTERN. Although this was to be expected, that really doesn't help soften the blow. I went to Northwestern for undergrad and absolutely loved it. I just kept thinking that someone has to make up their bottom 25%, why can't that be me?? Anyway, this is also frustrating because it's important to me to stay in Chicago, and now my sole Chicago school is Loyola. Right now I am contemplating taking the $22,000 from Loyola for the first year, going there, trying to do well, and attempting to transfer into NU. If that doesn't happen, then it just wasn't meant to be...

4/7 - REJECTED FROM BOSTON COLLEGE. Wasn't too surprised by this but had thought I might get waitlisted. Not upset about it though because I've kinda been getting excited about Loyola and Minnesota. Boston would be very far away from my friends and family, and I just haven't thought it would be worth it. However, I am still curious to hear back from GW. I don't think I'll get in, but if I do, I'd like to go visit.

4/22 - Went home to MN for the weekend to look at the UofM and liked it a lot. Very pretty buildings and campus. I just don't like Mpls as much as Chicago, so I am leaning toward Loyola. I returned to find out I was rejected from GW. I wasn't surprised. I plan to withdraw from Wisconsin and Emory. I may wait a bit longer for WashU and BU...

4/30 - After much debate, I decided to withdraw my Minnesota app. I loved the school when I visited and I know it has a great reputation as a national school, but I just do not think those advantages outweigh the benefits of Loyola--in the city I want to practice, lots of scholarhip money, and great regional reputation. At all of the ASWeekends, the students talked about how you should maintain a social life, etc. while in school. Chicago is where my twin sister is, my college friends and post college friends are, and my law firm connections are. To me, staying here just makes more sense. I do plan to continue to see if I get off the WashU or BU waitlists, but I am tentatively planning on Loyola.

5/6 - Tentatively planning on Loyola! Debating whether or not to stay on any waitlists... may just withdraw them all.

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Wednesday, November 08 2006 at 07:00 PM

Good luck with your apps!

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Wednesday, November 08 2006 at 07:00 PM

Good luck with your apps!

thanks
Tuesday, December 19 2006 at 07:00 PM

thanks for the note about NU... i was there a couple weeks ago to interview and i loved it. good luck!

thanks & good luck!
Thursday, August 24 2006 at 08:00 PM

Thanks for the comment. I hope NU takes pity on me an offers me a spot in their class this fall, but I certainly am not holding my breath. With your grades and LSAT, you are going to have plenty of options. Good luck on NU!

NU
Friday, December 01 2006 at 07:00 PM

I sent you an e-mail just in case you were wondering who that strange person is. Good luck.

Statements
Monday, May 01 2006 at 08:00 PM

It sounds like the prompt is asking for a statement of purpose rather than a personal statement, so I would recommend that you follow their directions. If you have any questions, you should e-mail the school for clarification re: addenda that you can submit with your application. Luckily, the schools I applied to all accepted addenda and had very general prompts for the personal statement. Good luck with your applications!

Wisconsin
Tuesday, January 02 2007 at 07:00 PM

I found out I was complete via email. Good luck!

ND
Tuesday, January 09 2007 at 07:00 PM

I called their office and they told me I was complete.

GW Complete
Wednesday, December 20 2006 at 07:00 PM

Hi, i saw your post on someone else's page about waiting to go complete at GW. You have to call the admissions office and check--they don't send you anything unless you filled out two postcards as part of the paper app.

GW
Sunday, February 11 2007 at 07:00 PM

What she said. I never got a completion notice, just the phone call from Anne Richard when I was admitted!

nd
Sunday, February 25 2007 at 07:00 PM

My fault--I meant to list ND as receiving my app on 1/19, not notifying me that it was complete. By looking at some other posts, it seems that they might not even bother to noify upon completion. You're right though, I should withdraw. Good luck with ND--I think you've got great chances, esp if they take the highest LSAT!

ND
Friday, August 04 2006 at 08:00 PM

ND complete notice was by email I beleive, good luck!

Completion notices
Thursday, January 11 2007 at 07:00 PM

ND sends an email when they get your app saying that they'll email you again within 4 weeks if you're not complete... they don't send a complete email. I'm actually incomplete at Wash U I just found out, so I need to fix that now. GW sends nothing like kitty and death said. Good luck with all your apps!

Thanks
Thursday, January 11 2007 at 07:00 PM

I'll definitely check out that second book over the summer. If you or anyone reading this haven't read One L by Scott Turow yet, I highly recommend it before first year.

MN
Monday, January 01 2007 at 07:00 PM

MN sent me email to let me know the application was complete and in line for review. Good luck!

good luck!
Sunday, February 25 2007 at 07:00 PM

Wow that's a lot of overlap! I'd have to say UVa is #1 with NW and Mich a close second... interviewed at NW and really liked it. I'm in-state for UVa and hoping that makes a difference. I'm thrilled with GW if nothing else works out though. How about you - pulling for NW?

fellow NU student
Saturday, December 23 2006 at 07:00 PM

hey--i'm a senior at NU right now--what is your major?

fellow NU student
Saturday, December 23 2006 at 07:00 PM

hey--i'm a senior at NU right now--what is your major?

Complete at BU
Saturday, July 01 2006 at 08:00 PM

It looks like someone answered your question; I rarely check this so and today I decided to check it, good luck this cycle!

WUSTL Phone Inverview
Wednesday, January 24 2007 at 07:00 PM

WUSTL emailed me on 2/19 to request a phone interview. I talked to them on 2/28. I've looked around on LSN and haven't found others that had a phone interview. The only thing I can think of is that I'm a splitter- high LSAT, low GPA, and that they wanted to talk to me to get a better feel of how I'd perform in law school. I can't decide where to go though. I still have a bunch of apps out (hidden on my profile). If I had to choose today, it would either be WUSTL or Akron with the full ride + stipend. It's hard to turn away free school. I hope this helps! Good luck!

Withdrawals
Thursday, December 07 2006 at 07:00 PM

Yeah, I think I'm gonna withdraw from Texas and GW this week. You can have my spot at GW if you want.

Wash U
Wednesday, November 08 2006 at 07:00 PM

Hey there! Wash U never gave me any kind of complete notice... An observation: They appear to have an LSAT cutoff. Check it out - the only acceptances below 165 are minority applicants.

Wash U
Wednesday, November 08 2006 at 07:00 PM

I think you're right about Wash U waiting to accept >165. I do wish they'd reject some people... namely me! I am not optimistic about getting in, but having that one last decision looming is really hampering my school selection process. Congrats again on LUC - the first of many I am sure.

asere cannot follow directions.
Wednesday, November 08 2006 at 07:00 PM

p.s. - I'm glad you left me a comment because now I can just click on your name rather than having to type it in whenever I want to check on you...

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Thursday, December 21 2006 at 07:00 PM

Thanks! As of now, my top choices are between USC, GW, and BU. I'm trying to bargain with the schools to see if I can more money from them. Good luck on the rest of your apps!

First acceptance!
Thursday, August 24 2006 at 08:00 PM

Congrats! I bet that feels good!

thanks!
Saturday, July 08 2006 at 08:00 PM

I really don't know which one I'm going to choose--I think I overshot a little on the applications! Anyway, I visited Michigan and absolutely loved it, so for now it's probably my top choice. Do you have a top choice yet? Good luck on your cycle!

:)
Thursday, February 15 2007 at 07:00 PM

Thanks, best of luck to you too!

rejection
Thursday, February 15 2007 at 07:00 PM

just got my no from GW, hope you have better luck :) also, how do you find out your chiashu percentages?

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Thursday, February 15 2007 at 07:00 PM

If they only take the highest LSAT, I would be within their medians, but if they average, then I'm below. Honestly, I wasn't expecting an acceptance, but I had thought I might get waitlisted. Oh well, I am really holding out for Texas. As for my undergrad, I'm graduating from Columbia U. this semester. I had thought that might give me a little more weight with some of the schools I applied to, but I'm beginning to think it won't. I kept Texas residency and am thinking I might go back for law school. Thanks for the Chiashu info btw.

re: supp essay
Tuesday, November 21 2006 at 07:00 PM

I ended up just sending a writing sample to two schools that deferred me, accompanied by a letter of continued interest. But I was complete in Nov and deferred in Jan, I think it's different for you, since you only went complete recently. From what I gather, the rule of thumb is to let them know you're alive every two months and then after being put on a waitlist, every month.

Emory situation
Sunday, March 04 2007 at 07:00 PM

Do NOT just sit back and wait...I had emailed emory telling them to take my last lsat into consideration, and this was before I got waitlisted. I then emailed them AGAIN, including the admissions officer assigned to my last name (check their website to see who it is), asking them if they had even read my emails. As it turns out, they had not, and sent my app back to committee that very day. A week later, I go from being an outcast to having a nice scholarship...it's really all about the LSAT, and your jump should be enough to at least get you in

Wow!
Thursday, August 24 2006 at 08:00 PM

Congrats on MN! That's a great option, even if it is in the Twin Cities.

ND
Sunday, February 25 2007 at 07:00 PM

ND has been pretty harsh on late applicants from what I've seen... sorry to hear they didn't take you. Congrats on Minn though!! Very exciting!

Dear Logged User-
Thursday, December 21 2006 at 07:00 PM

Thank you for your advice on the letter to NU and your encouragement about ND. I'd love to respond to you directly, but you didn't leave your LSN name or email. If you read this, I'd love it if you would. Anyway, I am motivated now to go home tonight and write this letter to NU because really, it can't hurt. Have you written one yet? Any advice on what to say? I am curious on if I should comment on the fact that my LSAT score is so much lower than their averages... I already wrote a Why NU essay as well as an LSAT addendum explaining the discrepancy between the two tests. Anyway, I'd love any general thoughts on what to include. Since I've been out of school, I don't have any new transcripts to update them on and haven't organized any additional rec letters (already got 2 from undergrad and one from an attorney I work with). Should I update them on my increased involvement at the firm and my positive year end evaluation that resulted in a raise and bonus? Sorry, I feel a little clueless on the continued interest letter since I haven't written one yet. Thank you! :)

NU
Sunday, February 25 2007 at 07:00 PM

Thanks for the encouragement with NU. I visited (and interviewed) in the middle of Feb (8 inches of snow... 40 mph wind gusts), and still loved it. I would definitely encourage you to write a quick note mentioning what you wrote in your post to me: if you get in, you would go. I met with the UVa Dean back in January and told her (in person) I would go if offered, and she asked me to write it in a note so it could be placed in my file. At a minimum, it can't hurt... and maybe you'll have the chance to live with your sister in Chicago at a top school. Worth a shot, right?

Re: Do it!
Thursday, August 24 2006 at 08:00 PM

That was me, I'm not sure why my name did not pop up. In the letter of continuing interest, I would focus on two things: what appeals to you about NU, and why you fit in. I would only discuss topics you have not covered yet, which means no LSAT discussion. But make sure you are checking in my others, and go with what makes sense to you. -drujoe

GWU
Tuesday, December 12 2006 at 07:00 PM

yeah, I'll be withdrawing from GWU next week probably; I'll be sure to let them know to just forward the $$$ to you :)

the waitlist game
Tuesday, November 28 2006 at 07:00 PM

Sorry to see that you're in the same waitlist boat. I'm actually the most interested in GW and Wash U. I wouldn't be too big on living in Atl so I don't know about Emory. As to whether we stand a chance...I guess only time will tell. I'm hoping I'll hear good news from at least one of them. Good luck. Let me know if you hear from any. Also, what you feelin' about UMinn? I'm still waiting to hear.

Re: waitlists
Monday, October 30 2006 at 07:00 PM

I'm in the process of writing a LOCI to BU, but besides that, I'm not really sure. I'm withdrawing from W + L as soon as I get back to school and look at their letter and I guess I'll just see what happens with the others. The way I see it, I'm not going to change my plans last minute bc a school takes me off their waitlist. So basically I'm deciding between GMU anad UMD, and I'm about 90% sure I'm going to UMD unless GMU really blows me away when I visit this week. Are you leaning towards a school yet/ what are you gunna do about your waitlists?

waitlist stuff
Sunday, March 04 2007 at 07:00 PM

Haven't heard anything on my gw appeal at all, I'm prolly gonna call them this week...as for Notre Dame, seems like they are being lsat whores this year. If I could give any advice, as crazy as it may sound if you take the lsat in june again and do just a little better I'd say you'd be taken right off the waitlists that you're currently on...nothing to lose

Withdrawing
Saturday, February 17 2007 at 07:00 PM

I've already withdrawn from all the schools I don't intend to attend, I just haven't listed them yet because I have yet to send in my deposit. :) Good luck!

Thanks and Best of Luck!
Tuesday, July 04 2006 at 08:00 PM

Thanks for leaving a nice note (the first on my page!) I'm still considering NU (I just visited last weekend and really liked it), but it's probably a less likely option for me than Penn, UVA and Michigan (being from the east coast and all). Despite the money, I'll probably be withdrawing from Emory soon--great school, but at this point some of my other options appeal to me a little bit more. I hear great things about Minnesota-- congrats! Best of luck to you for the rest of your cycle.

BC...
Thursday, December 21 2006 at 07:00 PM

Hi April, a few things about BC. I don't think my app should be considered in any way a standard for comparison as far as other applicants are concerned. The fact that my numbers are above their median and I didn't even get a waitlist should send off a red flag. Clearly, there was something about my app that pissed the adcoms off. My personal statement was a little risky in that I chose to discuss the evolution of my political views (libertarian) which appear to be in stark contrast with many of the religious progressives (unusual mix) at BC. If you get waitlist, my only advice is this: if you really want BC, make it clear to them...and do it every three weeks, from what I've heard. Get an extra rec focused only on BC, speak to a member of the law review, sit in a class...and discuss those experiences. I'm trying to do that for both Penn and Mich, so we'll see if it works out. My guess is that the vast majority of W/Ls either A) withdraw at some point or B) simply won't go the extra mile. Good luck.

WashU WL
Tuesday, July 18 2006 at 08:00 PM

well it looks like the WashU rejections just started rolling in. i spoke with admissions today and they claimed they have had a record year for # of apps. i also asked about sending in a letter of continued interest and she said that it wouldnt really do anything (but im sending one anyway). in a somewhat indirect way she said it would be good to visit in order for them to put a face with the file. hope that helps some. good luck!

Decision time indeed
Wednesday, November 08 2006 at 07:00 PM

I'm leaning toward SMU... Although Chicago-Kent is a pretty close second since I love the city and got all that $$. It looks like you should have some good choices too!

hmm
Saturday, September 23 2006 at 08:00 PM

ick, sorry----mine worked immediatley. I dunno, can you try DLing an acrobat update? GOOD LUCK!!

Northwestern
Monday, August 14 2006 at 08:00 PM

Hey, I do go to NU but didn't apply because the prelaw advisor here advised against it for those going straight out of undergrad. I'm also ready to get out of Chicago and go back east. Good luck though with your choices.

re: ND
Monday, December 04 2006 at 07:00 PM

Hey sorry I didn't respond earlier. I don't check in on this much. Yeah our numbers are pretty much the same so I don't know what the deal is with our different ND decisions. I ended up deciding on LUC though - I want to be in Chicago. Good luck to you where ever you decide to go!

Dear Need Help
Thursday, December 21 2006 at 07:00 PM

I would certainly LOVE to tell you all the reasons why I love Chicago, but you didn't leave your LSN name, so I don't know who you are. Post on here again, and I'd be happy to get back to you on the fabulousness that is Chicago. :)

decisions
Sunday, February 25 2007 at 07:00 PM

So... what's your gut telling you between Loyola, Minn, and Wisc? Sorry to hear about NU... if you go to Loyola, hopefully they can be an option next year. Although, in-state at Minn sounds like a pretty good deal! Good luck with GW!

decisions, decisions...
Sunday, February 25 2007 at 07:00 PM

Yours is one of the tougher decisions I've seen... Loyola is a great choice in Chicago, with the $$, but I could see those ASWs being persuasive as well! I think I'm leaning towards W&L with the $40,500 over GW. About a month ago, I was leaning GW, but GW is such an expensive school, and it seems that the job prospects are very similar. I'm going to Lexington (W&L) this weekend... so I'll hopefully have everything figured out by Monday. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that something will work out with one of the WLs or pending schools, but not expecting anything. I just e-mailed an LOCI to Dean Horgan/BU yesterday. Would you consider BU vs. Loyola with the schollie? Or WUSL?

loyola
Wednesday, January 24 2007 at 07:00 PM

That's great! Yes I agree Chicago is a great city, plus the student body seems real nice at Loyola --- and I would think being exposed to practice in Chicago will help you out a ton --- basically I just think it boils down to a larger volume of work and a greater intensity... I def. feel confident when I go to other places. Let me know if you have any questions about the school or the city. Thanks.